Direct flights

Tim10


Joined: 01/01/2008
Posts: 114

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 08:04

Although I have a hunch that the information I have is incorrect, I wish for someone to verify or reject it.



I have heard that their indeed are direct flight from the UK to Ercan that change flight numbers somewhere over Italy to avoid being called direct flights for political reasons.



Does anyone have any information to share on this issue? If such a think does exists, which airline does this?

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 08:37

hi tim10 no i have not heard anything like this , where did you hear it ?

regards simbas

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 09:57

No Tim, I've never heard of it.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 10:58

welcome home jamesb how did you get on ??

regards pat

Kitty1


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 683

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 11:39

The closest thing to this would be the CTA flights to and from Ercan. Same plane right through and you don't get off even though it touches down in Turkey. It always changes flight number at this point prior to departure from the mainland.



I know most of you out there are well familiar with that - just thought I'd throw it in to help Tim.

martin73


Joined: 06/10/2007
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 13:01

Ive heard the same from a number of sources. In the summer (peak times) there are two flights that leave stansted close to one another. The airline tries to get al the ones going to mainland turkey on one flight and all those to North Cyprus on another - when over turkey airspace they can then change the destination (or maybe they just say they had to land in North cyrus due to a technicalproblem) and so the flight is direct. It seems to be only luck that this happens and if you are being picked up you will be there 2 hours early!

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 14:16

Hi Pat, Happy new year to you. How was Christmas. I had a great holiday with family and friends, didn't want to come back, and that was confirmed by taking 2 and a half hours from landing at Heathrow to eventually leaving the car park, with waiting for luggage and queueing for lifts to the carpark and queueing to get out of the carpark.......etc.....etc.....



but hey ho,



how did you spend the holidays?

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 14:41

hi guys

like i mentioned before to tim who started this thread, there is no direct flights to ercan from anywhere in the world, the only thing that has changed with some kthy flights from london they actually started to say ercan on the flight board rather than just saying dalaman or izmir or antayla, but they have to land in turkey in accordance to the chicargo convention laws which is backed by the u.n, there was only one case last year when a private plane flying from a arab country that took one of their kings to ercan directly and of course the gc's government complained to this

hi james long time o hear mate hope you had good x-mas, my god heathrow is a pain unless you are using the picadilly line tube to get home, i much prefer stansted or even gatwick

regards

ukturk

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 18:59

Hi Erkan - I know you are the font of all knowledge!! but this did happen to us last year. Didn't know a thing about it until the captain started telling us we would be landing at Ercan in 30 mins. Everyone was in a state of shock and thought he must of been drinking to much Rakı! but lo and behold there we were in Ercan, no rental car waiting (cos we were 2 hours early!!) and had to get hubby's cousin out of bed to pick us up!!!!



Hope you are well hon!!

Karen

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 19:12

About 4 years ago we were on a flight that flew direct to Ercan, we only arrived about 30 mins early because we took off late

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 19:13

Hi jamesb glad to hear you had a good christmas and i hope the new year, we had a lovely xmas too i spent it with our neighbours { whom we are very close to } and family , it goes too quick does'nt it ,you spend weeks preparing and its over in 2 days its such an anti climax don't you think ? still i thoroughly enjoyed myself . iwish you your family and friends the very best for the coming year

regards pat

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 20:47

Thanks Pat, same to you

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 21:02

I have been on a flight from Stansted that was supposed to stop in Turkey but actually didn't and went direct in the end. But this was not supposed to happen.



CTA did go out of their way though to get anyone who was flying to Antalya off of our plane and onto another that was leaving 15 mins later, therefore there was no-one left on the plane that wasn't going to TRNC.



MC

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 21:56

hi guys

dont go public with this otherwise cta and kthy will be in a lot of trouble!!! lol

i must say guys you must be one of the lucky few!!!!

what i will do ill email my mate who works for cta and ask him and see if he knows anything

take care all

erkan

p.s i very well karen i hope you are well hon!!!! lol

orangekazzie



Joined: 31/07/2007
Posts: 1091

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 22:12

I have heard of this happening a few times over the past couple of years. If no-one wants to disembark in Turkey then the flight goes non-stop to Ercan/Geciticale. It's never advertised beforehand, I understand they just inform the passengers when they are near to the expected Turkish landing that they will go direct to Ercan.



I personally long to be on a flight when this happens.



Karen

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 22:12

Thought this was common knowledge,

very surprised that you ukturk were not aware this has happened fairly frequently during the last 2 years.

I'm told that the airline when the situation arises will take the opportunity and pay the penalty (monetary), this works out cheaper than landing the aircraft and taken off again, I'm no expert but believe that the fuel useage during these ups and downs are very expensive!

Notsoboredhw


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 1254

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 22:56

Hi Erkan nice to see you photo at last! Hope you like my new one!!!!

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 23:11

hi guys

gottheyips it might be common knowledge that it has happend in the last 2 years you are probabley surprised because you are quite new to the forum because everbody knows on this forum i have been living in turkey coming up to eight years, when i reguarley fly to cyprus i leave from dalaman and sometimes izmir with kthy and also when i go back to england i again get on a flight from dalaman with kthy to stansted

what i posted was just the legal side mentioning the chicargo convention concerning civil aviation laws for the world which is backed by the united nations and also what i read in the media about the private plane

you are right the fuel costs must be outstanding but not just that they pay a lot of money to land in turkey and taxi for a hour and this is what has a adverse effect on ticket prices, so can you imagine how cheap the tickets would be if kthy or any plane could fly directly to ercan

thats why we all pray for this particular embargo to be lifted so we all could benifit, us for time and price and especially cyprus for the extra boost in tourism

regards to all

ukturk

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 23:32

hi nick

love the picture you look good for your age girl!!! you must tell me the name of your stylist!!!!! lol

does my pic go with your mental picture you had off me? and dont worry you cant offend me!!!! lol

regards

erkan

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 23:34

Hi ukturk

did not fully understand your response, I am not surprised at all, it is common knowledge that flights have come in direct albeit against the Chicago convention, and my newness to the forum is neither here nor there, actually I have been on the forum as delboy but changed to gottheyips as it seemed more apt ! so not quite a new boy as you suggest.

I do agree you as will most on the forum that it would be wonderful if these restrictions could be lifted, the only losers would be the GCs and that would only be losing face.



regards GTY

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 23:36

The only problem with the flight that goes direct, is that you may have someone coming to pick you up from the airport and of course they don't know you will be early, so you may have to hang around and wait, so there might not be any advantage.



MC

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
06/01/2008 23:55

I agree MC,

that was my experience with friends that arrived over 90 min early.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 00:16

hi

hi gottheyipps i was suggesting maybe because you are new you did not know that i lived in turkey so you would be surprised that i did not know that because all the time ive flown to cyprus ive gone from turkey when i used to live in england i never experianced that or heard of anyone but that was over 8 years ago and like you said this has happend over the last two years or so



i was thinking where you went dellboy i must say i prefer dellboy because it's from my fav programme only fool and horses

and you are right only the greek cypriotwould be the losers because its down to them why these bloody restrictions are in place so if this embargo is lifted they would defo loose face



mcstevie you are right it would be a problem if you are the friend who is picking their mate up at ercan looks on the net at departures from the airport are leaving from it will only show that they have left on time

regards all

ukturk

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 00:26

One of my fav's as well , i only came on as Delboy as my name is Derek !!! woh!! what a surprise.

GTY seemed more exciting and sums up my game. I did ask earlier about my afflication! on the forum but got zero response, come on ukturk advice please,.



GTY.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 01:29

gottheyips

you have to excuse me its getting late and im tired can you repeat the question becaue i did not notice the question you had asked earlier

ukturk

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 07:27

Hi Erkan - re. your pic, not what I was expecting at all - you look quite normal hon!!!!!



Karen

marik


Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 88

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 08:07

Hi All

UK T you got it wrong mate there are direct flights to Ercan all the time from the UK, just not non stop ones !!!!!!!!!! and u say none from anywhere in the world so Turkey dont count eh !!!!!!!!!

Couldn't resist it Erkan

Just a laff mate, MUFC are it

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 08:20

hi all i have never had a no touch down in turkey in the 6yrs iv'e been travelling to and fro and nobody i know has either so when do these flights occur ? it would be great if we could find out beforehand would'nt it

regards simbas

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 11:13

hı guys

marik what do i expect from a mufc supporter!!!!

no football terms on here this is not a football thread!!!!!

i just could not resist it mary!!!!! lol



pat - i dont think there is a way people could find this out, because they would not advertise it when you are coming from the u.k because in theroy this would be breaking the chıcargo convention laws, so i think its just a case of being lucky and you will find out once you are in the air

and im like you i have never experianced or know of anyone who has been on a flight with kthy and fly to ercan without stopping in turkey and im hearing this for the first time on here

regrads to all

ukturk

BRABBS


Joined: 27/12/2007
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 11:46

morning all, in the past five years we have ony twice flown direct to Ercan without landing in mainland Turkey, both flights were night flights from Stansted leaving on a Thursday at about 2l.15 or 21.30 again we were not aware we had landed at Ercan we felt and probably looked a right pair of wallies, couldn"t understand why we were the only ones left on the plane! No longer a problem, we"re here to stay, and will only fly back to U.K. once or twice a year. Have a good day . Lesley x

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 11:51

hi ercan , well i live in the hope that one day i too will benefit from these fllights, great ! if it happens

have a good day pat

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 12:33

Brabbs,



I have only been to TRNC twice and the one I went on that went staright throuh was also a Thursday night from Stansted. There was another flight 15 mins different going to Antalya, so our plane didn't stop in Antalya as it was supposed to!!



MC

EssexOB


Joined: 29/06/2007
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 12:45

We have flown direct to Ercan 3 or 4 times in last 6 years.

It happens with the KTHY Thursday night flights when they have 2 flights leaving at approx 10.00 and 10.30 both going to Ercan via Antalya.



If they can, they put all those only going to Antalya on one plane and all those for TRNC on the other. Then only one goes to Ercan (direct) must save them a lot as Antalya plane stops there. and does not fly on to Ercan.



They don't tell you when you check in, although obviously some people are told they are being transferred to the other flight "for operational reasons". Some of the TCs know because one told me what was happening at Stansted. So if you are on a Thursday night flight and get moved to the other flight you may be going direct.



Not much help to us as we get to Ercan 2 hours before our hire car arrives.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 13:07

hi guys

there you go we might have a pattern here looks like the thursday flight from stansted flies direct to ercan, thats if no one has booked up to go to turkey,

i must say thou i have been on flights where i have been the only one thats has got off in turkey so maybe if it was not for me they might have flown non stop!!!! lol

regards

erkan

jemjem


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 42

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 19:34

just seen boredhousewifes make over what an improvement



we had a good laugh cheers bobnjulie

Tim10


Joined: 01/01/2008
Posts: 114

Message Posted:
07/01/2008 23:12

Thank you all for all the insighful information....now I guess I have to get lucky to get a direct flight?

odgy47


Joined: 04/01/2008
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
09/01/2008 00:57

hi has anyone flown from heathrow to ercan as at the moment you can get some really good prices?

spud1


Joined: 22/05/2007
Posts: 544

Message Posted:
09/01/2008 01:22

yes many times

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
09/01/2008 06:49

hi odgy which airline are you talking about ?

have a nice day simbas

odgy47


Joined: 04/01/2008
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
10/01/2008 17:26

hi simbas we just booked 5 flights on 7 july for 3 weeks for 900 pound with kthy.you have to phone direct to get the special discount as web prices are far higher.great to see the prices to ercan are becoming more affordable as larnaca is a bit of a trek.

cheers

Manglewort


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 15

Message Posted:
10/01/2008 18:23

Hi



Yesterday, i paid a bargain price for a return flight to Ercan.

£130 return (all taxes inc) for early March with Pegasus Airlines. I didn't think this was possible Apparently there were some £125 seats but i missed them.



Chris

Tim10


Joined: 01/01/2008
Posts: 114

Message Posted:
10/01/2008 19:22

That is a great price! I would not get my feathers ruffled for missing a 5 GBP discount.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
10/01/2008 20:47

ho odgy47 that was a really good price , i paid £185 and was highly delighted with that never had such a cheap flight

regards simbas

Georgie


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 14

Message Posted:
11/01/2008 00:31

hi odgy47 Do you have a telephone number for kthy. Has anyone flown direct from Dublin to Ercan

Manglewort


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 15

Message Posted:
11/01/2008 17:24

The £130 Stansted-Ercan flights came from transit travel. I spoke to Linda Dobson the co-owner.



http://www.transit-travel.com/



Cheers



Chris

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
11/01/2008 17:26

Georgie



There are no flights from Dublin to Ercan and there has never been