Have heard Lynx is a good site management company

Alsancak16


Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 15

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 16:05

I will be looking for a good site management company and have heard good things about Lynx does anyone else know of them.

Kitty Kat Jac


Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 16:10

Yes i believe they do the management on our site, I promise i am not getting at you, but are you sure you can choose your own management company for the whole of the development.

sparta


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 226

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 16:19

maybe he owns the site Kitty

Kitty Kat Jac


Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 16:22

No he doesnt own the site Sparta but thank you for your helpful contribution.

sparta


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 226

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 16:24

sorry kitty, didnt know you knew him personally!!

Alsancak16


Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 15

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 16:25

No I dont own the site I wish I had that kind of money lol

and do not have the authority to choose on my own but would like to have input in choosing one and would like to vist some sites to have a look at them which is your site Kitty maybee I can have a look at it to see how they do yours.

Kitty Kat Jac


Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 16:32

I think they do the management on all the Santa Fe sites. I think they have a problem with people paying the maintenance fees, but i am sure this is the case with most if not all developments.

Alsancak16


Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 15

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 16:34

Thanks Kitty

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:32

I would not recommend Lynx at they did the apt block next to ours, the owners all had to pay £500 up front which was quickly absorbed as most of the tenants didn't pay, so their fees came out of the float, and now they don't have the money to pay for the pool cleaning or the gardens being done, as now they want another £500 to go ahead

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 18:16

i could recommend meps trading .i dont have any relatives there lol.



they do a site in alsancak (kavanlar) and ive seen them at first hand for around 18months,you can talk to them and if issues arise they sort things out .



upto you

kav



Meps Trading Ltd.



Adres:

BESPARMAKLAR CADDESI NO 26

CATALKOY YOLU

MERSIN 10

G?RNE / KKTC



Telefon: +90 392 824 47 10

Fax: +90 392 824 47 10



Bilgi: Direktör

Bülent Kürümo?lu

GSM : 0533 8621488

e-mail : info@mepskavankoy.com



Direktör

Bahar Kürümo?lu

GMS : 0533 8461668 (for eng)

e-mail : bahar@mepskavankoy.com



Genel Müdür

Ahmet Azizo?lu

GSM : 0533 8667164 (for eng)

e-mail : ahmet@mepskavankoy.com

maningi pusa


Joined: 07/09/2008
Posts: 120

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 20:07

We were put on to Lynx by our propert developer but when we heard how much they were asking per month plus £500 each for a "contingency" fund we quickly decided to form our own committee and use pool contractors etc. So far it is working out ok apart from a few non contributors (all local I must add).

mustafaleak


Joined: 08/02/2009
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 20:29

Don't use Lynx there Rubbish and greedy with it.

Linus


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 20:38

I must admit i have not heard god reports about Lynx either

KickingK


Joined: 14/09/2008
Posts: 90

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 20:59

I know I have mentioned "First Consult Cyprus" on this site before, but have to say we highly recommend them. They run the "Bufavento Village" site in Catalkoy. They are an excellent professional company that help in any way they can.



They have recently opened a new office in Karakum, along from the Lemar. Our fees have remained the same each year, with no increase.



Email: incilayfell@firstconsultcyprus.com

Mob: 0533 869 44 62



Hope this helps anyone experiencing either problems with site management or those just looking for site management.



KickingK

KickingK


Joined: 14/09/2008
Posts: 90

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 21:03

How strange is that, I have just noticed "First Consult Cyprus" have an advert at the top of the page!



Well there you go "look no further"!!



KickingK

brandy sour


Joined: 09/04/2008
Posts: 310

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 22:34

I also heard bad report on Lynx Management.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 00:10

Can people who post negative comments about a particular company please elaborate in order to help others in reaching a decision.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 00:56

Lynx managed a santa-fe site at the pines in lapta. The site was clean and tidy as was the pool no problems, they seem to have a lot of clients so they must be doing something right............

Alsancak16


Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 15

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 09:42

I will have a look at the pines site in lapta and a few other sante-fe sites and form my own opinion thanks everyone

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 09:49

My advice would be to go on recommendation , seek out the sites they manage , and see what they look like , some have there own public forums take a look at those also .There are some really good ones however







There are a few that are unscrupulous , have no good customer services , try and make owners feel like owners rent and not own , ensure they have the workforce on site when you are occupying your property , then as soon as you go home , workforce are off site . Hold you to ransom if you do not comply with there ruling such as prevent you from buying water if that is the pay as you go water supply system on the site . Act in the utmost arrogance as if you needed to bow down in there presence , yeah youv'e got it be very very careful if you have the choice choose well!!!!!

ozankoys


Joined: 20/06/2008
Posts: 905

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 09:56

I have no knowledge of how these companies perform but you cannot expect them to work for nothing. If a lot of the tenants do not pay then their original quotations do not stack up and unfortunately the owners that are prepared to pay have to increase their contributions if they want the work to continue.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 09:59

Surely there must be a way to make the non-payers pay. Why can't the Management company cut off all services to the people who are not paying?

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 10:02

The problem you have is that some maintenance companies just see pound signs when they first take on contracts , they do noy have the business sense to see any implications on running a site , they carry on in the most unacceptable way , finaly get rumbled and then are out on there ears , the problem lies that this takes time usually 2 years on when every owner decides to take off there rose coloured specs !!!!!!

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 11:23

No 1 Doyen .

You have to look at every individual non payer , why are they not paying ? , if all has been investigated re non payment and solicitors advice not to pay maintenance then there are serious issues there . But on the otherhand if there are no founded issues and these non payers are just guility of non payment because of no reason then yes name/shame i agree that would be the way to go . But all sides needs to be looked at first . I say if you hear of a non payer find out all of the ins/outs first before you make comment .

ozankoys


Joined: 20/06/2008
Posts: 905

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 11:32

I think you will find that Cypriots do not like paying communal charges. From experience even in blocks of apts where there are only communal stair lights to pay for the UK owners end up paying the lot. They also are not prepared to clean the stairs - it is the 'rubbish over the wall' syndrome anything outside their front door they are not interested in.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 12:05

ozankoys



Crikey bet thats a pain for you all .

glencoe


Joined: 01/02/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 12:25

We follow these threads with interest, and it is obvious to all but the blind now where a certain person is coming from, it is a pity that the person who has problems, is so eaten up with hatred that they cannot see what is trying to be achieved, this person has no idea of the complexeties involved in getting a complex in the TRNC up and running properly, and has been repeatedly told this by neighbours.

There is no such thing as a magic wand, we gave up believing in fairies a long time ago, it is a fact of life here, things are not as they should be, people on many complexes will attest to this.

No one has been denied water as yet, but if people do not pay maintainence timeously then it is the right of the licensed water supplier to deny service.

It is so sad that said person has not got the moral fibre to name the company and have their day in court to prove their case, this is the way some operate.

Once again we will not get drawn into any further debate, the solution is simple

Pogle


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 1536

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 14:25

Our site has been successfully managed by Lynx for 3 years, since completion ( or not completion as the case was). We have 36 apartments, communal parts areas, vast area of grass and a sewage refinery on site. We have an excellent committee who work closely with Lynx.

Lapta Pines,

Kamelya Sokak

Lapta

Just past Jk's on the right.



Lynx also manage Santa Fe Cyprus Cove at the Sunset Beach turning, 2 pools, large gardens and 40 apartments, they are in their 2nd year.



Emerald Bay ( infront of Lapta Pines by the sea) are going it alone and are not managed by Lynx. The new SF sites of Olive Grove, Citrus Gardens and The Cove Lapta are managed by the sub-contractor for the 1st year.



Good luck to those who want to go it alone, it would never be an option for us.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 14:46

As we can all see there are companies out there (re messege 27 ) where it looks like they even keep water from owners that own on the site , shocking these so called management companies really do need to look at there obligations .

But alas there is no hope for companies , they seem to be on another planet , ah well in my opinion these companies will come down to earth with a bang , sooner than later i hope .

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 19:06

Glencoe wrote



No one has been denied water as yet, but if people do not pay maintainence timeously then it is the right of the licensed water supplier to deny service.





So am i to presume that a management company is a licensed water supplier ?

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 19:28

Hi Pipie,



Maybe you should pay for all the costs to run a site like this from your own pocket.



Then claim back off the non payer's.



Tell everyone how you get on.



Thanks



David

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 19:51

I lived on a small site of 11 houses and the best thing we all did was to run it ourselves mainly with the few of us that were here full time. We voted people in to position, we empolyed a full time gardener/security man and paid all his taxes etc. We took maintenance fees every 6 months and a cashflow statement was issued every 6 months showing who had paid and who hadn't and before long even those shown not to have paid were handing money over and yes half the site was occupied by cypriots, nobobdy liked to see their name on a non payers list! I do acknowledge that this was easier for us as there were not many properties on our site but can it be a consideration for other sites.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 19:59

scoobydoo .



Good post . What people can do with a bit of common sense and organisation well done !!!!!

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 20:02

david123



A professional , successful. customer focussed company with a proven track record would have no problem running a complex/site you only have to look at some of the posts on here and talk to satisfied apartment owners . The problem arises when you have companies who have non of the above atributes have no idea whatsoever, then bleat when things are not going there way .



Maybe these companies should talk to scoobydoo , maybe they could learn a thing or two .

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 20:50

Hi Pipie,



Please tell me how you would get the money off non payers on your complex.



Also these people are the main cause of problems.



If everyone paid then I am sure it would all run to plan.



But as you know people only moan when it is not going right.



I am sure there are alot of people happy with there managment company, and if not maybe they should talk to them and not a forum first.



Thanks.



David.

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 21:40

we are now starting a magment compony with our accountants who have a great knowledge of the govermant sevices if you wish we cuold offer you and any body else imformation or advice on many problems that you have encountered if you wish a meeting you can call me on 05338433001 we will if we can try to help you imediatly or become one of our clients satisfaction gauranteed some things take time

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 22:14

David .



have you thought that there might be management companies that take on sites that are clearly not ready for hand over , then expect owners to cough up maintenanace ,now is that ok in your book ?

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 01:13

Hi Pipie,



Don't think we are getting anywhere.



You don't answer the questions.



My point is if I had a company and you kept slagging it off on a forum then I would expect you to talk to me first.



Thanks.



THREAD CLOSED.



David

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 02:24

Hi peeps,

Cant help herself can she, she comes on here bleating all the time and she has really no probs compared to some she realy must be very frustrated this woman, trouble is as everyone on here can see she never ever answers questions direct, she cant, she has been asked to answer on many things but dosent, she sits at her keyboard day in day out thinking / what can i post next???? then something springs into her mind, oh right i'll post and ask what day it is !!

Scooby doo, i live on a small complex of 28 apartments and would like to ask you a question if you dont mind, how much was your maintenance per year per apartment, i for wait your answer

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 02:57

Hi Lazy days,



Thought it was just me who was thinking that.



David

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 03:02

Hi Scooby,



Please tell me what your policy is if someone will not pay.



Please bear in mind they still own the property, so how do you get them to pay and just imagine they don't care about being on the non payers list.



Also maybe it does work for you but while there is only 11 people to pay imagine alot more and all different types of people and minds, I know what I would do but don't think it is legal.



Thanks.



David

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 05:09

pips mess. 29

what about your obligations, the way you carry on its a wonder your house is still standing, but David mess 41, is not the answer.

I think truth is pips bit off more than she can chew,picture this.

o brill hubby & me got a few bob. england booming, buy 2 apts in TRNC, make big rent income, brilliant, lots of dosh

****

O sh1t, england bust, TRNC not so good now, no renters, cant pay dues, o blast, investment rocky, blame everybody else, developers, management, maintenanse, o my god where will i turn next, have another glass of wine drown sorrows, type more drivel, must keep it going, have to prove point, not my fault, hurry type more, more wine, its his fault, no its her fault, its everybodys fault, o dear what have i done cant turn back now, keep clawing keep scratching, let them laff, i dont care, more wine quick.

sad really

lol. peeps

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 11:41

Hi Lazy days,





lol very good .



made me laugh this morning.



David

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 12:42

david123

You failed to answer messege 37 , so i see no point in any more debate .with you .

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 12:46

Lazy days .

Cannot see any debate with you re your posts . Your posts appear to be of a confused person .

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 17:04

Hi Pipie,



messege 37.



Yes I think that is ok.



You pay into a fund if you cannot afford it maybe don't buy there.



maybe you should look at what you write on all forums and stop casuing the managment companies problems, I am sure if any normal person had a problem they would talk to them first no not you all you do is open you mouth and talk rubbish, just to cause everyone involved a headache that does not go away.



Thanks.



David.



THREAD CLOSED........



REASON: PIPIE IS TALKING RUBBISH ONCE AGAIN.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 18:10

david123.

Get your facts right then speak !!!!!

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 19:14

this thread started thay someone thought Lynx was a good mgt coy but has degenerated into another rant by pipie about another coy lets get the board mods to sort this out, this lady has obviously lost it and could end up having to account for it.

Pips you seem to be luckier than most you have 2 sites whereit seems you dont have 2 many probs but if you keep going you might have plenty

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 19:27

lazy days have to theaten now do we , that does not surprise me , you are incapable of debate just look at all of your posts . But yes let us keep to the thread .



Lynx have got a good reputation but speak to owners who they property maintain get it from the horses mouth so to speak !!!!!!

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
28/02/2009 19:33

Hi Pipie,



Please get your's right first.



Make sure you understand what people are saying.



David.

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 08:27

David it's too late for pips she cant let go or back down,

if it was me i would lock her out of the complex, cut off all her amenities water electric sewerage clamp her car if it comes on the complex etc.

She was advertising on here a while ago for her places for sale or rent, was she saying "come and buy my place, its crap the area is dirty the amenities are not in place, cos of this you can have it for a song" i very much doubt it, 2 faced or what?????

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 09:30

Lazy days .

Your post says it all .The tactics you have clearly said what you would do to someone who has challenged the fact that i will not sit back accept what i have been given and not what i have been promised



I have decided to speak out and challenge , and you have just proved in your last post what you are capable of , these tactics are what some people are facing and that is why they will not speak out .



Well for your information i will continue to continue and i am not stupid eneogh not to put systems in place in order to combat these threats.

Tell those who you are in cahoots with to play fair , put right the discrediting of my name ,get customer focussed , until then you have me around constantly reminding you that i will not put up and shut up .



Alsancak16

I apologise for going off thread i have said all that i have to and will not post again . Thankyou .

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 09:55

But then again its not me is it pips how on earth do you manage to twist the words round to threats, i simply said "if it was me"

You have shown to all and sundry what you are capable of, completely unreasonable and unstable thoughts and behaviour, you seem to have created an "enemy" in your own head, its this "glencoe" thingy, what have they actually done to you, you never say, pleeeeeese we need to know, its not fair, everybody keeps askin you but you dont tell anybody except that some things are not "in situ" your fav expression, i ask you outright is it the M/C thats at fault for this. ??????

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 10:25

for peeps information

i live on a little development of 28 apartments, there are still 9 to be sold, we have lived here over 1 yr the tennis court is unusable, the lil bar area is closed has never been open, water that sometimes is and sometimes isnt and costs 12tl a ton, the palm trees are dead, weeds everywhere, we have 2 pools which are being kept in a kind of a way,no management company will touch it as they say the fees would have to be over £130 a month for us to get any kind of service, and this lady thinks she has probs, we had no choise but to move into our place as we had sold up in UK but you know what we love it and hubby helps out doing a bit of weeding etc round the site.

Just so peeps know where we are coming from.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 11:40

Lazy days .

If you choose to accept this that is your own fault , just look around not to far there are owners that have orgainised there selves ,are in the driving seat of there own investments , not rocket science to do this , proof this is not just heresay . You have chosen to accept things then that is your progotive , there are others that have not , and there are those or will not , you take your choice , bleat , or get in the driving seat .

Baspinar Bob


Joined: 15/02/2008
Posts: 618

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 12:08

Pipie You have made more come backs than George Best!!!!



Bob

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 19:17

Baspnar Bob , why thankyou , how kind .

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 19:57

PIPS you are one sad lady

Still you dont get it do you, you spout all this dross all the time about not accepting it, what is IT,

You think you are in the driving seat of your investment, ask your self HAVE YOU GOT YOUR KOCAN YET ??????? this is a little piece of paper that entitles you to eventually call the investment your own, then maybe you will be in the driving seat of your investment, but the way you are knocking it it wont be worth anything.

You say in message 55 its my own fault, well that shows how selfish you are, at least we got up and got on with it and didn't sit behind a keyboard 3000mls away slating all and sundry and talking crap.

You always ask questions of others and await there answers, but you will not answer any of the questions put 2 you, answer this one that has been asked of you on a number of times, what have the M/C promised and not delivered????. answer, or maybe you cant !

BTW mess 52 another lie, you said you wouldn't post again 'LIAR'

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 11:45

Hi david 123 and lazydays,



I am sorry I have taken so long in coming back to you re your questions but I haven't been able to get any connection with 3G for the last 3 nights! Okay, as previously mentioned we were only 11 villas and we all agreed to run this ourselves, everyone was voted in for 12 months, we issued regular newsletters on any changes, problems etc plus we issued a half yearly cash flow chart and a year end statement of accounts this showed who had paid and who clearly had not. The embarrassment of being listed as a non payer on such a small community was enough to get people to pay. One of the main things was to keep everyone in touch via meetings, email, fax, phone ... anything so everyone felt part of the 'set up'.



Our maintenance was £60 per month each villa. This included employing a gardener/security man providing him and his family with a small flat, electric and water. He also had all his taxes paid.

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 11:46

It also covered the cost of looking after communal gardens and roads plus we got our own gardens done once a week.



Hope all this help.

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 11:49

I forgot to say, that it does help to get a local on board for all the 'Turkish' things that need doing.



You must also consider having minimum of 3 people at any one time running the site as this helps when there are any disagreements over anything. Any major changes were always put to a vote to all villa owners.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 16:53

scoobydoo .

Well done to you all .Just appears to take organising and all to part take . I imagine all was in situ , so do i take it you all ust started maintaining from the out set ?

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 18:03

hellooo scooby,

I was very interested in these figs and i do not wish to doubt you but it just dosent add up, the minimum wage here is 1200tl amonth plus 310tl for social and provident so that it 1510 per month @ = 2.35 to £ about = £645 a month, 11 x £60 = £660 this only leaves £15 a month for his housing, plants, materials, pool cleaning chemicals, his elec & water, where is the communal elec, ect??

I am sitting here with figs given to us by three different coys, and they all make sense, but nothing like you are saying, can i ask you if praps this was some time ago mabee even 3/4 years ago when the elec prices & wages were half what they are now.

Pips "who wouldnt post anymore" (yeah right) you still have not directly answered, slippery and eels eh.

NOW PLEASE READ THIS AND ANSWER

You were asked a question in mess 35 38 39 41 53 58 we are still waiting ??? you asked david a question then told him of for not answering but he did in mess 46, now is your turn, we wait ???

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:08

Hi scooby,



I am sorry but I am not very good a maths, and even I can see that it does not work out as laid out in mess 63.



If you do supply a flat for the man who looks after all this, would hate to see what it looks like.



Also as for the non payer embarrassment maybe it's ok in your place but I bet there is some people who would not give a monkeys, even if you put a photo up of them it is money we are talking about easy to spend not as easy to get hold of.



Pipie: This would not work for you beacuse you talk to much instead of answering the questions, and also just go round in circles with your way of thinking so that pool that should be cleaned would get very dirty before you stop talking at get the point that someone is trying to say.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 08:38

I have just been reading Turquoise Bays website and whilst I dont wish to get embroiled into arguments on here, I also don't think the potential of having your electricty cut off because of non-payers will endear the payers to conitinue to pay ! although it does say the electricty is not in the MC remit If I understand correctly they have to pay separately for their communal electricty surely this is included in the maintenance fee ! strange but then I may have read this wrong.



The confusing thinkg is they are saying they cannot landscape the minigolf area - so ensure the communal electricty is paid is not in their remit but landscaping areas is weird ! surely the devlopment companies landscapes ie finishes of the site to a certain standard - but again maybe I am missing some info





Non-payers are frustrating but any action taken should not penalise the folk that do pay imo like pitch black roads and green pools which will happen if you have no electricty



Regards

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 09:49

Have read these posting with interest, We owned a rental prop in UK with a maintenance charge. Nightmare, same issues nothing got done as half didn't pay. So we simply got in the bailiffs, and threatened them with repossessing their property as well.

It worked, but there was a clause was in the contract with owners that if no contributions made they faced loosing property.

I am surprised that so many people have attacked "pipie". obviously something has upset this person.

Last year I rented an apartment and left the apartment cleaner than when I arrived, I had an email later from the owner asking me how I left the apartment the owner had had a report from Glencoe that it had been left in a shambles dirty dishes in sink etc and the immersion left on (it was summer). The owner had initially took the report as the truth, but when the owner had more reports along the same lines from the management co, this time friends staying there decided to question this.

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 10:01

It turns out "Glencoe" had mixed up the apartments. And three times in a row????



I was extremely upset over this accusation as you could imagine, luckily we had pics to back us up. Would love to stay at this apartment but won't chance these accusations again.



So I have read many of the threads from "Pipie" thinking there is no smoke without fire, after being a victim of "Glencoe" myself.

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 12:18

pipie- get out more!

Go and have a really good look at other developements and their management.

If you come back and tell me that your estate isn't one of the best then I will know that you have a big big problem.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 12:24

breezyboy .

I do not have to justify my self to you . However take of your rose coloured specs and look for yourself , but then again you must have !!!!!so let us see how your update compares with the one on the other forum , now this will be really interesting !!!!!!

glencoe


Joined: 01/02/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 12:43

We have written to Gillian Lashbrook privately and await a response before publishing 'facts' on this board.



May we also point out to everyone "once and for all" if we were elected into the position of maintenance company by owners we would have no problems with that.

However the principals namely the developers/owners of the complex retained the right to manage the site BY THE WAY A VAST MAJORITY OF CLIENTS CONTRACTS WERE WORDED, we were contracted by them to maintain it, in June 08 we wrote to everyone telling them we were taking over the maintainance as of 1st July 08, having signed a contract with the principals and that maintenance of £48 pcm would be payable EXCLUDING communal electricity as that could not be quantified.

We were given the legal right by the development company to collect fees on their behalf in order to use them for the maintenance of the site, five swimming pools, fitness room, tennis court, basketball court, communal garden areas, public areas etc

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 12:54

Why on earth would a company take over a site that was clearly not ready for hand over ,? no detailed contract ,/ no detailed obligations ,?!!!!!!!there may be 5 pools but how many are operational ? and just look at the post YOU HAVE STATED you were given the legal right , you seem to forget that this site belongs to owners , you are employed to act on owners behalf , you refuse updates , you discredit owners , is this a way forward for all to work together . i think not !!!!!!

glencoe


Joined: 01/02/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 12:55

Most people replied and agreed to pay maintenance - however we had no reply from 4 and another six refused to pay for various reasons, we are now in contact with all but one owner and there are now only four people who have not paid or are refusing to pay, we have had a promise of payment from one of these, two we have instigated legal proceedings against, we are waiting to hear from the other one, we also have five people who are in arrears with maintenance by up to 3 months and their accounts are accruing interest.

We have a licensed water supplier to the complex and one of the tools we have to use against non and late payers is refusal of water, however this may become academic if the electricity is cut off as nothing will work.

We rarely contribute to these bulletin boards but if our good name is challenged we will defend ourselves, and if necessary again we will go to court.

glencoe


Joined: 01/02/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 12:57

Pipies reaction is exactly why we refuse to comment further

PIPIE


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 13:04

Thankyou , that is all i needed you have openly admitted that you cut off water .

I have paid 6 monthes maitenance as a good will gesture , yet we have just 3 pools in operation , no promised sauna/steam , no promised security , no individual water tanks , and we are expected to continue to pay 3 months in advance maintenance . Get real Glencoe .

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 13:07

Glencoe do what is right answer E-mails apologise for discrediting me then we can go forward .

glencoe


Joined: 01/02/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 13:13

This is a copy of an e-mail sent to Gillian Lastbrook on 14th Aug 2008:



Hi Gillian

I think *** has got mixed up with his tenants as we advised him that his last tenants who left a week ago had left the place in a bad state. Please do not think that we said this about your stay in the apartment as I believe it was left in a tidy and orderly state. Our internet has just came on and I am trying to answer everyone. I will email *** in the morning ASAP and advise him of his mistake.



Please, please except my and our teams apology if you have been blamed in the wrong.



Best regards



Ann and the team

GPC



Please note your response on said e-mail



Hi Ann



Well thank you for that I was really worried, I hope you are all well, we have had no rain so it has been speacil!!!



Regards

Gillian



We await her response

glencoe


Joined: 01/02/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 13:18

In further response to Gillian we paste comment from the owner of the property on 28th july 08 at 15.02



I thank you for looking after Gillian Lashbrook so well. She had nothing but praise for my property management team.



This flies in the face of what she has now posted, all of these e-mails can be viewed in our office or by an officer of the TRNC court

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 13:21

I have just had a threat to be sued under TRNC law if I do not apologise for my previous post.



Lets just say the wording on the email with the apology from Glencoes, saying the owner got his facts mixed up left me feeling that this was just an appeasement.



So I apologise to you for being accused of the crime, and apologise to you for not feeling your apology was sent in good faith. Finally I apologise to you for feeling intimidated and scared of you.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 13:22

Glencoe if we are now into posting private E-mails so be it !!!!!!!!!!

glencoe


Joined: 01/02/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 13:28

Mrs Ellis (Pipie) has got a real problem - read the post - it says "one of the tools we have", we have not openly admitted anything, can you name anyone who has had water cut off.

We will not contribute further on this issue on this board but will take any action necessary to get owners to pay, nor will we be offering any apology to her as everything we have stated is fact not the rant of a person who is unreasonably dissatisfied.

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 13:56

hi the figures I quoted were 2 years ago and I do not live there anymore therefore do not know what the current rates are but it was just to give you an idea that it is possible to do it yourself and you have to calculate the figures based on the current costs and what the owners require of the sitemaintenance

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 14:07

Glencoe thanks for clarfying electric water etc - If you supply water and have non-payers I think that is an excellent bargaining tool - they should not get a service ie water until they pay I do not like non-payers !



Regards

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 14:31

Pipie

You couldnt justify the rubbish you spout so I dont expect you to try.

I dont need rose tinted glasses but I think you must have a white stick and a dog.

Your developement is so well presented it is obvious to those calling at the supermarket or the pub, how well everything is done. My wife's comment have included the fact that she would be very happy to live because everything is done so well there. This despite the fact that we have a 4 bed house with a pool facing the sea. The problems I had getting the numpties who built it to finish it makes yours pale into insignificance.

Carbotec


Joined: 28/02/2009
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 14:52

This is the case but Santafe should have written it into the sale contract that the puchasers enter into a 12 month maintenance contract giving time to get a residents committee together and to take thing forward.



Regards carbotec

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 15:41

breezyboy .

That is your view , certainly not mine .



Carbotec .

The sheer mention of a committee to some managements companies/developers would call for the need of a dictionary , then they would fall of there chair , faced with a committee , negotiations , owners participation , this would affect there dictatorship , beleive me some will do all in there power to put committees off , but it has to come into fruition one day , can't wait !!!!!!

RubberDuck


Joined: 16/02/2009
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 23:08

gillken re message 78: Are you seriously trying to say that you felt intimidated and scared of someone from an apology given as per message 76? Your given response to that email does not intimate such feelings from yourself. I don't see what else they could have said to you in that email to make you feel that it was 'sent in good faith'.



And why would you leave the owner with an impression so good that he would state 'I thank you for looking after Gillian Lashbrook so well. She had nothing but praise for my property management team.'?



Something doesn't add up and you now come across as blatently trying to discredit a company for no good reason.

RubberDuck


Joined: 16/02/2009
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 23:30

Pipie you seem unable to comprehend what people say. Your behaviour is frankly quite disgusting. Of course as you say you do not need to justify yourself to people on here but you cannot seriously claim the moral high ground when you make constant unwarranted jibes at a company and accuse them of things they have not done (like them saying it is possible for water to be denied and you turn that into 'that is all i needed you have openly admitted that you cut off water'). Personally I would have already started legal action against you. Then you could try telling the courts how you don't need to justify yourself.



Having read the Glencoe forum I cannot see where they have discredited you as you say they have. You are in arrears (or were at the time of their posting); as was explained to you, you are required to pay 3 months in advance so you ARE behind after paying what you call a 'goodwill gesture'. Paying monies owed is not a 'goodwill gesture' but a requirement.

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 01:07

Hi Again peeps,

where do some peeps get their ideas from, i have read many posts on here and some of them are nice and others not so nice, some telling lies and others telling truths, but the latest one from gillken i must ask what made you post such a thing when you had already had all this sorted over 8monthsago, why get cought out with telling lies on a public forum just to have a say on a subject and leave your self open to possible recrimanations, the owners letter in mess77 says she was full of praise for the company, the companies letter to her explained a mistake had been made, yet she posts on here a completely different thingy, these boards are sooo dangerous, is she in 'cahoots' with pipie i ask ?? as pipie thinks peeps who are against her views are in 'cahoots' with glenco

pipie mess 85 there is post on glenco forum saying that they wished people would form a comitee or did you choose to ignore that as well as all the other things you ignore.

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 01:24

Pipie mess 71

in whose eyes was it not ready for hand over 'yours' ? it had to be handed over sometime i suppose, and would it have been any better if it had waited till say this year, i doubt it?

glenco said they had a contract with the main people so how do you know they dont ??

Glenco said all the pools had been running but they 'decomissioned one' because of non payers and it wasnt feasable to keep them all running whats you problem with that ??

What is in your contract, does it say you own part of the site, like Turtle bay owners, ours dosent for our site and i doubt if yours does either, because it is local owned and their contracts are diffrent ??

you say that they refuse updates yet their forum has numerous updates on it ??.

Name owner's who have been discredited cos i cant see any ??

Now thats all your thingys addresed for mess 71

i must thank you for giving this company such an airing we are now in talks with them to take over our site maintenance.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 02:39

Rubber duck 4 posts Mmmmmm sure you do not have multiple post disorders !!!!!!





Lazy days you appear to know an awful lot considering you do not own on TURQUOISE BAY !!!!

RubberDuck


Joined: 16/02/2009
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 03:10

Multiple post disorders? lol? Maybe you are an expert on disorders - it would explain a lot. You also have my post count wrong.

RubberDuck


Joined: 16/02/2009
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 03:11

Oops forgot to put some exclamation marks to make my post look more important or something...





!!!!!!!!

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 03:21

Rubber duck.

No, my apology was in response to an off line email.



Lazy days.

You really need all the facts before you make judgement.

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 08:08

Hi lazy days and David123,



A follow on to message 81;



We visited the work office in Girne to find out what we had to pay someone to work for 'us' and we didn't have to give the 'employee' a minimum wage as we provided electric, water and accommodation however we did have to pay the social sigorta, provident fund etc based on the minimum wage at that time. We did everything above board ie providing a work contract, paying all the necessary funds to keep him legal (and ourselves of course).



You don't have to take someone on full time, maybe part time would be an option, obviously this would depend on your site requirements.



Hope this helps and I am sorry I am taking so long to come back to you with answers to you queries but I am having so much trouble getting on line with 3G in the evenings.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 09:36

Scoobydoo .

Thank you so much for taking time to explain all .

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 15:44

no problem

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 20:32

Hi Scooby,



Maybe you did do this.



But just can't see that being cost effective now, supplying someone a place to live and all bills.



But I suppose it depends on if the person has a family to look after.



David

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
05/03/2009 07:04

Hi David,



Whether it is cost effective now or not would be up to you and the site to calculate, it can be made cost effective depending on your needs. I don't know what my old site is charging now but they have someone there still. The flat was pretty basic and it was under the pool but we made it good for him.



This all started as I wanted to give you the idea that this can be done by yourselves as most people seemed unhappy with what they are getting from their maintenance company.



There are many alternatives; give it to a property company, employee someone full time, part time, wages to include money, flat (not necessary), electric and water (though not necessary). You need to do some number crunching!



It has to work as there are companies who run and make money out of it!



Good luck in what ever you decide, I hope it works out for you.

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
05/03/2009 09:22

Hi David,



There is also another thread about property maintenance started by Steve1953, it may be worth you looking at as there is some else who seems to have started their own site maintenance and may well have up to date info.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/03/2009 14:25

David .

Crikey , your post re onthe other forum re i quote your words ''i think you are amazing '' a bit of a sicky , dont you think ?????

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
06/03/2009 01:17

Hi Pipie,



Did you not get what i was saying to Scooby?



Let me tell you I was trying to find out how it worked for them on there site, and how they get people to pay.



If you were to read the thread then you would think the same on the other forum, because you could of not of looked at the thread to see what we were talking about.



So please go back to sleep now and stop being that annoying stupid person, who never understand the threads.



You are a waste of space.



David.

johno


Joined: 21/04/2009
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
21/04/2009 15:16

sorry I forgot to mention check out Lynx Website

lynxcyprus.com

johno


Joined: 21/04/2009
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
21/04/2009 15:16

Re- Lynx Manegement, I have two friends on Evergreen sites in the Bahcelli area who have apartments on two different sites that Lynx manage and according to them they have been very instrumental in getting all or most of the teething issues from the developer solved and are looking after the gardens and communal areas and keeping themto a good standard as well as starting to make improvements.

LynxLtd


Joined: 24/04/2009
Posts: 46

Message Posted:
16/06/2009 10:12

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sunnylife


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 22:06

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Pipie


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 22:33

Do you have a website ?

sunnylife


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Posts: 8

Message Posted:
10/10/2009 23:48

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Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
11/10/2009 18:31

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