Google Earth update on North Cyprus!

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 20:36

Hi All,

Ive just been looking at the Google Earth site on Cyprus. It appears to have been updated by a matter of weeks. The detail is amazing and you can zoom right in on your property or just sites in Cyprus.



There are also many photos attached to the site of TRNC which are amazing.



Its really worth taking a look!



nunu1

scooby



Joined: 02/01/2009
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 21:01

Thanks Nunu1

Our place was just a field this morning and now we can actually see an apartment.It's reassuring as we have'nt been over since it was that field.Citrus Gardens buyers have look.

Perry


Joined: 27/01/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 21:20

Thanks Nunu - Great !

We can see our villa, pool and the finished development !

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
01/03/2009 21:35

We are Sweetwater Bay and think this was taken early last year but much updated from what was on Google Earth before.

Sheila&Phil

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 10:03

Hi.



This update was made end of last JUNE 08.



I can vouch for this, as we came over then to look at our plot. I got the developer to mark out the plot whilst we were there. A week later the Villa had been started.



All I can see are the markings for the plot.

petez


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 560

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 13:15

thats cool, any news on the road maps??

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 13:54

Wow, thats fantastic, I've been waiting for that 4 a long time.



We can now see our villa too. Not sure it's 3 weeks ago though, looks longer than that to me, but good to get an update anyway.



Thanks



Mc

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 14:12

The 'history' slider now available in google earth 5 is interesting / fun. For my area it only really has 2 different dates but the changes between the two are pretty remarkable !

brandy sour


Joined: 09/04/2008
Posts: 310

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 14:29

Just had a look i can see our complex now, on the down side i am not sure i want to be reminded of our bad investment.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 14:59

I think it's got to have been late summer 2008, our pool wasn't filled till about late Aug/Sep but shows as filled. Everywhere looks a bit late summer arid.



Excellent though!



In another 5 yrs can we expect live streaming?

MimoMar


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 18:22

Brilliant! Now the Cypriots from the South can see what's been built on "their" land

Hippo


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Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 18:50

Quote

Brilliant! Now the Cypriots from the South can see what's been built on "their" land quote



Now there is no need for them to stand at the top of the road wave thier arms and say 'This is all my familys land' coupled with old ladies in black wailing and crying.

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 18:50

good isnt it mimo....... but no need to see it on google earth, a stroll over the green line is enough!

MimoMar


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 18:53

Yes juliet, but when you can see it from above, it makes you feel like God

McSteviet



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Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 19:06

The layer over Lapta is July 2008

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 19:07

I suppose by definition if you are up then you can't be a low-life.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 19:13

Macha would that not depend what your up....Nr the Flags i take it.

















spider.

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:00

Spider,



Say again your last, over. But make it understandable for a non-genius like me.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:35

and , since a long time ago, we can see what is built on our land in he south as well !so why not !

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:06

And we all know what happens to property left behind in the south compared to the north, don't we?

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:08

you beat me to it Macha....

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:32

Macha msg 20



"And we all know what happens to property left behind in the south compared to the north, don't we? "



Do we Macha ? Please do tell us then what we all know. I know what the RoC CLAIMS has been and is done with pre 74 TC property in the South post 74 just as I know the real distance between the claims and the reality.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:55

yes, i know, some are distroyed and new roads are made on TC land ! they are not better ! don't do to other what you don't want it to be done to you ! of course in the south they have all the rights - good men against bad men as always !

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:33

Erolz: "Do we Macha ? Please do tell us then what we all know. I know what the RoC CLAIMS has been and is done with pre 74 TC property in the South post 74 just as I know the real distance between the claims and the reality."



I know what my eyes show me and what ordinary Cypriots tell me, Erolz. It seems you don't do much travelling about the island. I get access all areas, remember?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:49

Silly boy.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:02

Macha msg 24



"I know what my eyes show me and what ordinary Cypriots tell me, Erolz. It seems you don't do much travelling about the island."



Once again Macha you show your ability to distort and mislead as part of a consistent agenda of yours. You make out that the GC side has treated TC property in the South in legaly and moraly acceptable way that seeks to 'protect' these properties for the 'true' TC owners where as the TC have simply stolen all they could because they were to lazy and greedy to do otherwise.



The reality is that the way the RoC has actualy treated pre 74 TC property in the South, rather than claims to have treated it, has many many problems to it that you totaly ignore.



However let's not just take my view and what my eyes show me on this issue, for to do that you be egotistical in a way that is your personal specialisation.



cont

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:08

From a Greek Cypriot paper quoting extracts from Greek Cypriot laywers and other experts.



http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=16240&archive=1



"The whisper in legal circles is that the guardianship law contains more holes than a bloc of Swiss cheese, while any scrutiny of its implementation will open up a can of worms and a host of claims for damages."



"“The case signifies the need to have an in-depth re-evaluation of the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot properties and the issue of maladministration. How is the Guardian looking after the property? Has there been proper administration of that property with the collection of rent? Who is going to pay the bill of Turkish Cypriot properties for the loss of use claims by Turkish Cypriots?”



"“Until 1991, people took whatever they wanted (of TC pre 74 property in the south). It was a disaster, and the best kept secret."



cont

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:11

"Markides goes on to explain that the 1991 law on the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot properties is inadequate."



"“For example, in Polemidhia, we had 70 families who had settled, built on and invested in land belonging to Turkish Cypriots. The state acquired the land, and I think they did the right thing in that case."



"“I think that the worst way to deal with this is through court decisions. This whole structure regarding Guardianship will collapse, if not in our courts here then at the ECHR."



"A legal source told the Sunday Mail that the problems with the Guardian law have been known and ignored for some time."



"The property (tc pre 74 in south) has been used by all parties for political favours. Turkish Cypriot property was the secret banquet of politicians and the Cyprus government was treating these properties as their own. But who is going to foot the bill?” asked the source."

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:11

and pray do tell me what might happen once the talks are over,perhaps in onother 20yrs or so. well is it E.U. or not...and when did you Vote,just so i can do Mine...in the box that is x thanks Spider.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:19

So this whole idea that the RoC has 'done the right thing' re pre 74 property in the area unde its control and the TRNC has just stolen all that it could because of greed and lazyiness , is yet another of your repeated and common distoritions.



The property issue is a complex one and neither side is without its problems legal and moral. Of course you would rather have us believe otherwise.



"It seems you don't do much travelling about the island."



What seems apparent you and what reality is , is once again two very different things. I have travelled extensively in both the North and the South. I worked for a time for Bird Life Cyprus in the south for example on a project monitoring illegal bird trapping that required me for 3 months to visit pre mapped 1km squares accross large areas in the South. I can give you the google maps to whole former TC villages that my GC counterpart pointed out to me , where the ROC 'guardian comission'



(cont)

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:24

but you have NOT told me when we can Vote........every country needs a Vote.

or do You not BELIVE THAT...is that not when things change..............spider

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:24

Has protected the former TC owners property so well that the whole village has been 'rented' out (and at what price ?) to a pig farmer and where the remains of the crunbling former TC houses are now shelter for these animals.



" I get access all areas, remember?"



You get access to no areas that I do not myself have access to. I have access, I use this access and I do not use it with eyes like yours that only see what is convient for them to see. For the record I probably have seen areas you have no access to at all like the Marash. So what are you saying with the above ?

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:28

Spider msg 29 and 31



If these posts are aimed at me I have to say with all respect I have no idea what you are asking me ?

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:38

simple,we had no say in what WENT,on some 30yrs ago..so do we have a right to say,most ,well all moved here and knew how thing are,the only thing that will change it are the talks..not OUR,talks might i just add..

so if and when you could Vote,,that would MATTER.



i vas always told if i didnt vote,then keep quiet.....that was at home...

no vote here,so we get no say,re,land polotics,etc,,its like sloggong a DEAD horse is it not...or never changing the record over,,

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:46

Look its like this the topic was google earth,so how on earth did you turn it into Pre 74,land etc,etc,.............spider

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:47

Spider I am a TC citizen. I do get a vote here. I voted on the Annan Plan as a TC and I vote in local and central government elections in the TRNC.



I am sorry if my posts bore you and sound like a stuck record.



However I do feel that when issues are misrepresented I have a right to offer the alternative side to the story. When Macha makes out that pre 74 TC property in the South has not been misaproriated and is treated in a legal way that 'protects' it for the benefit of pre 74 TC owners, I feel I have to correct this one sided and bias and incomplete assement and I have tried to do so here with credible sources that show things are not quite as Macha would have us believe.



Like I say I am sorry if this uspets or frustrates or annoys you, however I can not in all honesty say I will not continue to try and counter such bias and incomplete and one sided posts when I see them. Sorry.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:52

Spider msg 35



Again I can only appologise. I realise that threads going off topic like this can be annoying and frustrating. However in my defense I would say that I only reacted to a prior post that sought to make a political point in this tread and thus did not 'start it', though I do accept I played my part. It was Macha who took a thread about google earth and politisized it when he said



"And we all know what happens to property left behind in the south compared to the north, don't we?"



With Juliet jumping in straigt after. It is THIS post that had nothing to do with google earth or the thread topic but was a blatant 'political point scoring' exercise that I felt obliged to respond to. Without it I can assure you that I would either have not posted in this thread or only posted on topic comments.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 00:54

good i am so glad that you can vote.but we cant to chang things...can we.

and there is a very long long Tread going on about exchange land...hope that helps to get on it and have your say...













regards spider..

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 01:34

Erolz and Spider...Please....Go off line if you need to discuss things...



This Posting is about "GOOGLE EARTH" ...............Yes?



nunu1

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 01:52

Nunu1 msg 39



Again sorry for my part in taking this thread of topic. If you can stop Macha using threads like this to make his persisitent little digs I do assure you I will never take a thread off topic.



So back to 'on topic'.





Robnjo msg 10



"In another 5 yrs can we expect live streaming?"



Rob (or Jo?) I think this is a fascinating question. Certainly the 'end point' of google earth would be for live or near live views of anywhere on the earth available to anyone with internet access. I do not think it will happen in 5 years but I do think it will happen eventualy and I think the ramifications of such will be massive. I think changing the way that people can 'view' the world in such a fundamental way would have to change the way people relate to that world. A global ability for anyone to view anywhere on the earth would change so many things from media and how it shapes our view of the world to jurispridence and much much more. Facsinating and I hope I get to see it.

thomarge



Joined: 09/12/2008
Posts: 23

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 02:59

I wrote Google a little while back, commenting on the fact that the picture of the area around Karsiyaka was from 2003. And lo and behold, now I can zoom in on my house where there was only a field some time ago. This picture is from 2008. Great. Feel more at home right away.

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 07:19

It appears to be very recent of Karsiyaka as the new Kofali houses boyond the back of the school are on there, so much later than July 08 IMHO

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 10:29

There must be somewhere we can get an actual date of when it was taken !!!!!!

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 11:32

THE DATE I HAVE IS 23rd of april - and it seem connect because we can see our house finished - we moved in in May 08 - in mars, no picture just the land !

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 13:18

Pipie there is a way to see the date of an image in google earth 5.0



From the view menu option turn on historical imagery. Then in the bottom left of the main screen it should show an Imagery date. For where my house and zoomed right in Girne this shows Apr 23, 2008 as the latest image.



Hope that helps.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 15:47

Can anyone tell me how to get the link, to the latest google earth up to date map of Cyprus?



The one I viewed is several years old.



thanks,



T.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/03/2009 17:16

Tiggy you should download the lates version of the google earth software which you can do here



http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html



However how up to date a given image is varies quite widely from area to area. It is all to do with the price companies charge google for these images. Generally the more 'populous' an area then the more the owners od said image charge google as well as charging for more up to date images. So typically areas like London tend to have older images than North Cyprus, because those people who have up to date images of London have a bigger market for them and can sell them at a higher price, so google takes an older image at a lower price.

PeppaPig


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 18:31

hey i found my house!! The little things that amuse me!!

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 19:17

Thanks Erolz,



Your help is appreciated, will have a gander a little later.



P.

PIPIE


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 19:21

cheers erolz/sylvie.

kibsolar


Joined: 14/09/2008
Posts: 552

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 19:42

yes, wonderful.

and the resolution is shit.

much worse as it was before.

jurgen


Joined: 20/12/2008
Posts: 77

Message Posted:
05/03/2009 15:08

Erolz , msg 47

Thank you , have done the download. Seems to work.

Kind regards , Jurgen

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
05/03/2009 15:45

kibsolar



Resolution should be at least as good as previous. If you are printing, do not print at 'screen resolution', choose 'medium' (still free).

You can get higher resolution if you subscribe to 'Pro/Premium' services from google.



Rob

kibsolar


Joined: 14/09/2008
Posts: 552

Message Posted:
05/03/2009 23:06

oh thanks Rob for the hint..

but there are quite a few who think the resolution IS not as good as previous. and of course i could subcribe to pro/premium. 400 dollars for one year subcription.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
06/03/2009 16:47

JURGEN,



pouvez vous m'expliquer comment obtenir une bonne image sir google earth, lus je me rapproche pire c'est et je ne comprend rien des explications en anglais !!! merci