3 years' property taxes

gio41uk



Joined: 19/08/2008
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:59

Im in the process of getting my deeds sorted with my lawyer.

She has mentioned my builder has said i owe him 3 years' property taxes,he told her i new about this.

Hes talkin bull and i dont even no what this is,seemingly its £150 so it must be £50 a year.



does anyone no what this is,could u give me a quick explanation.



i think the lawyers takin me for a ride to be honest.



gio

rsalih


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 306

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:22

i think they are talking about 'Rates'. Every year we pay rates on each property that we own or for each piece of land. İf there are arrears you can not sell that property.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:30

I think if you owe more than 1 Year you have to 4% penalty , late penalty , i thnk !!!!!!

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:42

Technically it is the vendor's responsibility until deeds have been transferred but I think it is generally accepted that once you take possession then you should pay.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:54

ahha but if you have a development and say third have paid up to date with taxes and the rest do not pay as they know it is developers obligation to pay .

developer might say all pay else no one gets there deeds .

My point being is that technically the developer is liable for taxes as they are deedholders which could then be stalemate or what !!!!!!!

gio41uk



Joined: 19/08/2008
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:41

I take it this is rates like we pay in the uk to maintain the area we live in !!!!!



so is what your saying that its the builder that pays until i have the deeds and when i have the deeds i start paying.



Also is it right he could make it difficult to get my deeds if i refuse to pay,,,saying he should have paid.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:04

msg 6,

Yep, the Specific performance law (SPL) makes it impossible to compel the Vendor to transfer the Kochan - no matter what is written in your contact!

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:10

Gio in law the person on the deeds has to pay. However I think that a purchasers should actualy pay from the point they take possesion (get the keys) of the property - which is often may years before they get deeds in their name. I would not object to paying them as a purchasers on this basis.



Yes the builder can make it difficult for you if you refuse to pay these libilites of his because if he does not pay then the deeds can not be transfered. Like I say I do not think it is unfair or unreasonable for the developer / builder to expect you to cover these liabilites from the point at which you took over the property (got the keys to it) despite what it actually says in law.



Just my personal view of course.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:43

erolz ,

I personally have paid my property tax , but i can understand some purchasers refusing to pay especially if they have been subjected to a rough deal , late delivery , broken promises , developer not adhering to contract bully tactics etc.

But if a developer is fair more or less every step of the way , then yes i agree pay the taxes .

Graham


Joined: 20/10/2007
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:52

Gio have to agree with erolz and there will be plenty of people in cyprus wishing they where in your position just another £150 and have title deeds in their hands.



Graham

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 12:07

the trouble is that this rates/tax per year is not paid to the developer.

its like paying council tax, you can't not pay because you have broken promises or problems with the developer.

it just doesn't work like that.

it only small money pay up, its not like the sums extorted from people in the uk.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 15:17

firestarter yes we have paid up , no prob there , but you have to take on board that if you have non payers on the complex then non payment can delay all owners having there deeds , so even if some pay there is no guarantee that you will get deeds until all of this tax is paid up to date , this is where it is important to get a committe in situ to work with management , developer to sort this out before it becomes a stumbling block for all concerned.

spook


Joined: 23/01/2008
Posts: 244

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 16:01

I would suggest that subject to the builder providing receipts to show amounts paid, that you make payment only at the point of transfer and the issue of the Kocan, this would be the fairest solution.

flowerfairy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 1277

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 19:14

Friends of ours have received their bill. It's for 2 years. Also they have been

charged a penalty fee for late payment.

The problem is, he has never had a bill, it went to the builders, who said that he should pay it.

He now has to pay the two years tax, plus two years penalties.



Last year some other friends went to pay theirs, they were told they didn't have to until they had their kocan.

Confusing.

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 20:19

if you have paid your tax what have you paid amount wise nobody has said if your house estemated at say £100,000 how much did you pay and on what date or is it a secrete then every body can get a rough idea how much it will cost easy . did your price include the 75%

flowerfairy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 1277

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 20:34

Gates, this is a (kind of )rates. Emlek Var. It is assessed by the square mtrs of the property covered. My friends bill is 677.88 TL incl. penalties.

This bill is added to the water bill, and included street lighting, whether you have it or not, I also think refuse collection is included.

piggy


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 20:56

We were up at the Lapta Beledeysi last week and they have told us that if we have taken possession of the property, i.e. living there, then we are responsible for paying the property tax regardless. The price of which is 1ytl per sq.m without pool and 1.25ytl per sq.m with pool.



This is based on the internal sq.m of the property and not the land that the property is built on.



There is also a penalty for late payment.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
05/03/2009 10:41

i totally agree pipie,

those who don't pay are letting down those who have.

they are also devaluing everyones property.

i think if you live in a complex you have to work with the developer to ensure those who haven't paid are made to pay, so that this can't happen.

from what i have heard the charges here are reasonably in comparison to the uk.

why not do it as in the uk where you form a managemnet company, everyone gets a vote on issues, along with the developer(in the uk he would be the freeholder) and anyone else involved.?

everyone gets their say and everything is put to the vote!