Medview news letter

Anonymous


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 21:17

Hi, I've just been forwarded the link to Medview's newsletter. It was quite interesting to discover building work has been put on hold at Seaview and the Hotel, until the "Economic climate" picks up; which proves that Hilltop are not likely to get their deeds for a fair while; until the building is complete, Ali Safa, 'God' love him has grouped them all together!



I also read that non paying owners are leaving a trail of shit for the payers to pick up and pay for them! Surely, if this is the case, it would be better if we all crossed the line and didn't pay, so this "Economic Climate" will be sorted out for the rest of us!



Go ahead, have a bloody laugh, have a full read!

Think again if you're thinking of buying here.



http://www.medviewhomes.com/ebrosur/default.HTML

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 21:40

Anonymous, the link not working, can you post it again.

Anonymous


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Posts: 16

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 21:42

Copy and paste it to your browser, you need flash player.

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 21:54

I have just been Rick and Rowld,

Paul.

Anonymous


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 21:57

ALL of the first post is true,trust me.



http://www.medviewhomes.com/ebrosur/default.HTML

Terry


Joined: 31/12/2006
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 09:48

To the top again, if this stops one more person buying from Medview then it is worth it. nearly £2k in maintenance fees. Come on pass this on.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 10:03

Medview is an example to us all who own on complexes .

Argue amongst yourselves and nothing will get done .

Organise yourselves and you can then be in the driving seat of your investments .

I cannot for the life of me understand how owners can agree to pay such fees , do you have a AGM ? do you have a committee ?

To all owners out there stop and think ORGANISE YOURSELVES THERE IS STRENGTH IN NUMBERS .this could be YOU paying these fees if you do not stop and think .

If you do not make a stand this is going to continue to continue .

Terry


Joined: 31/12/2006
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 10:24

tried all of the above now time to bring it out in the open.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 10:47

It is the only way , all needs to reach rock bottom before all sit up and see the serious problems/issues surrounding owning on complexes

Terry


Joined: 31/12/2006
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 10:55

Here here Pipie. Hopefull more owners will post.

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 11:47

Hello Peeps,

i might be missing something here and would love it if all was to go smooth but i have just read all of medviews paper and was intrested to read the bit on page 6/7 about maintenance monies and non payers i think i also recall reading somewhere else recently about sanctions that developers can ultimately take and i for one dont want to lose my apartment, it might be good if everybody read this my problem is i live here and pips you dont, so i for one dont want everything to hit as you put it rock bottom, it is all right for peeps who live in UK to harp on but us who live here need water and things i like the post suggesting people pay a portion based on what is ready and what is not, you see my priorities are not a steam and sauna but being able to flush my loo and wash up

Anonymous


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 12:16

why don't medview chase non payers? why should anyone pick up the bill none payers apart from medview, they provide 'maintenance' up to them to follow none payers up.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 12:42

It does not matter if you live in TRNC or UK everyone has an equal share in the complex , and when you have to take on board that sanctions are taken against people who just want what was promised , well i ask is that a way forward .

To be perfectly honest all of this talk is just going around in circles , the only way is to get a voted in committee to act for owners , talk with m/c developer and all invloved , on a way forward , as i have said before continue to argue amongs yourselves and nothing will get done , we all have responsibilities , we all have obligations , If owners have assurances , maintenance should be paid , get all of this up and running and that is a way forward , leave it and you will have sites looking delapidated within a very short time , we all have the choice here , do something NOW.

Highleygray


Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 13:18

When a complex is 90 -95% there and people want to enjoy what they have, it is not the way forward to disrupt what is in place. Yes form a commitee to guide the way forward but you cannot do this whilst applying the brakes.

The most vocal person has an apartment elsewhere (surely illegal in TRNC) so they can have a lovely time, whilst others have their well earnt break spoilt by their actions.

Anonymous


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 13:21

Hilltop did have a committee of sorts but it folded as they were powerless.

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 13:23

please almighty one do tell us what to do NOW

bearing in mind that we want to get our title deeds and wont get them till all back moniesand interest is paid this is not a figment of someones deluded imagination its a fact stated in medviews paper and also in our contract with our developer, the idea is very good but the facts of the matter are very different, another bit of info for you is that some management companys cant be shifted as peeps contracts state that in return for a maintenance fee the developer will give the apt. owner indefinite rights to use the communal areas, but no pay no play, the developer retains ownership of these areas sorry but our contract says that and we have been to law to see about it and there is nothing we can do so please check and dont say things to stir up emotions till you know the facts as elko said in his topic

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 13:27

We have a very active committee at our Medview site. Unfortunately if the Management company won't listen to complaints and concerns of owners, you do go round and round in circles. As I have said before on this site, you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Medview's biggest fault is that it will not listen to owners complaints and prefers instead to issue their newsletter to all who will read it. They have unwittingly opened themselves up for much debate on an open forum now. I will read with interest the outcome of this particular thread.



The butler

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 13:34

Highleygray .

Sadly people with your views are all ready to accept what is thrown at them , and i respect this is your decision , however to those who have decided as you say put the breaks on until they have assurances that all is promised is in situ , you should respect that decision as well , i do not know what you have done to help things go forward , but up to know i have had a meeting with M/C and developer promises were broken , now this is not just once but twice .

The first promise was at handover when things were not in situ then again 6 months later still things are not in situ . Now if you choose to carry on paying without assurances , that is up to you , just try and respect other peoples decisions /reasons on not to pay . Now let us move on to more positive actions , can i ask what you are doing to move things on ?

griffin9870


Joined: 01/03/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 13:46

With regards to the above you can only reason with reasonable people. A certain persons threads change like the wind. If this person has an apartment in Tatlisu why would this person pay 6 months maintenace for an apartment that would be illegal under trnc law? So of course this person can bang on about saunas and steam rooms, without worrying about electricity and water, with no consideration for those who only have one apartment and would like to be able to use it.



I have an apartment on Turquiose Bay, no I do not suffer from more than one personality, thank you pipie. I am just some-one who got so sick and tired and wanted to tell everyone how I feel. Stop ruining my life and pay up.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 14:24

And what about you Griffin9870 what are you doing to get things moviing forward ?

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 14:54

please read and digest message 16 it really does concern you and all of us

these are not imagination

but facts the developers here wether it is medview turquoise hampshire or any other with this type of contract see the complex as 95%finished it dosnt matter to them that some things are not as you put it so often IN SITU, they will make us pay every penny owed before they give any title deeds these are not Israeli developers they are big players here and it is there country, i am not condoneing it just saying you will find yourself in a no win situation, is it not better like highlygrey says to pay as you go along and get things done rather than shutting things down for none payment and everybody suffers, this shows a very spiteful and greedy attitude by you gawd help them if you ever get on a comittee you just dont grasp things do you and the serious implicitions for others by your actions

Highleygray


Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 14:56

I cannot respect the actions of an individual who has the cavalier i'm alright jack attitude, you are are intitled to your own opinions of course, but actions that effect others should be made much more carefully. You will achieve no progress because you have upset too many people and will not be welcome on site if you carry on the way you do. Progress has been made on site and if it is now 'getting worse' as you have put it, you and a small number of individuals are in the main responsible. I support legal action against people like yourself who make individual actions/choices that effect the majority. Slowly things are being completed by the construction company on site and only one item is now outstanding

stevemac


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 99

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 15:05

This seems to be the new property problem, problems with maintenance set up by the developers who are trying to cream in yet more money from the poor unsuspecting buyers. Dispicable behaviour. Have you spoken to the HBPG to see what you can do?



Be careful though, all Medview has to do is issue a cheque to Cyprus44 for advertising and these type of posts will be closed down, like the Seaterra posts. A direct conflict of interest for all the poor buyers out there on any site who should be aware of the truth.

griffin9870


Joined: 01/03/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 15:12

I think that lazy days and highleygray sum up my feelings on the matter. I only wish to say again to all non payers and those who are behind in their payments, please consider what your actions are really acheiving. You say that you want all these things but your actions are only making things worse.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 15:12

Highleygray i am pleased you have mentioned more people who are disastisfied , and as you know these are growing in mumbers .

It is sad that you are shortsighted in seeing these people are just wanting what was promised . If you consider that speaking up and making a stand warrants threats that you are making then so be .

As i have said before un less all owners are together and assurances are made it will be a sorry state for the site and all involved .

I do not wish to go around in circles so all the best with all .

Highleygray


Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 16:07

Stevemac

that is not the problem in my opinion on my site, in relation to some of the problems experienced by others on the island ours are quite small.

An equally common problem seems to be a few individuals on site who will not pay for services (agreed, not all were in place initially, but that has now reduced to one item) which then means that electricity bills are not paid. This means by their actions they effect everybody, ie three do not pay, thirty cannot swim, flush loos etc. The actions of these people are particularly upsetting if they can do this whilst staying at another aprtment they own on the island and your family / friends etc cannot enjoy their time at ours

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 16:15

Highleygary C'mon we have no maintenanace contract of obligations of what we are paying for ?



We have not got all pools up and running/maintained .



We have no sauna /steam . ?



We have no access to the beach as building materials are still there ?



We have no individual water tanks as promised in contract ?



We have villas built on the complex that were not in original spec ?



Shall i go on ?



Just look at the post from Arnold he/she clearly was put off buying !!!!!

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 16:18

Oh yes i forgot and no communal electricity !!!!

Anonymous


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 16:28

you try and find another compnay medview say they will close the pool and not supply water and sewage all owned by Medview. Canny plan that.



Pay for a 5* service and get treated like sumthing they picked up on the bottom of their boots.

griffin9870


Joined: 01/03/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 18:05

Stevemac, I am truly sorry that you are having so many problems, however I feel that the I must correct people on a few matters.



We have visited Turquoise Bay four times since Jan 08. During this period the site has been generally tidied and some planting and landscaping had occurred by our last visit. We used 2 of the pools, in the summer and Glencoe delayed ‘mothballing’ (during winter months) the top pool during our October visit as our children and those of two other families wanted to brave the cold water.



Whilst it is true that the sauna/steam room is not in place we have used the indoor pool and the sauna/steam room is an issue for OS-IN, not Glencoe. We have accessed the beach on all visits, including my husband driving down to the beach to collect cobbles. I believe that there have been improvements made to the site with the available funds and as regards planting, this has occurred. As for comunial electric, that was cut off due to non-payers.

Highleygray


Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 21:39

Pipie, this has all been covered before by myself and others before but I will try one more time

Highleygary C'mon we have no maintenanace contract of obligations of what we are paying for ? Check your contract item 21

We have not got all pools up and running/maintained . They were all working - now just one - you have not paid maintenance or electric

We have no sauna /steam . ? True, it did arrive but was the wrong size & is being replaced

We have no access to the beach as building materials are still there ? You have always been able to reach the beach

We have no individual water tanks as promised in contract ? True, instead a large cistern supplies apartments - not a problem

We have villas built on the complex that were not in original spec ? True, what difference has this made - none to me, there is also an extra pool

Shall i go on ? You usually do, ignoring what other people have said

Highleygray


Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 21:41

Just look at the post from Arnold he/she clearly was put off buying !!!!! I was only surprized not to see !!!!! in the post

Oh yes i forgot and no communal electricity !!!! Your fault again for not paying for it

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 21:51

When this thread started, it was about a newsletter that Medview published yesterday. I was hoping to hear from other Medview home owners their opinions and stories of buying from this particular developer. Unfortunately like so many threads these days it has been hijacked by someone who owns on Turqoise Bay and who won't pay their way. When will this person stop and give us all a rest from her one man crusade and for once let a thread run it's course on the subject it was started on.



The butler

Highleygray


Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 22:39

apologies for stoking her fire

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 22:49

Apologies the butler , just going around in circles anyway !!!!

Anonymous


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 23:33

well it seems if you post trashy posts on this you get a better hit, good one liners, mum dad I am bi sexual.



Heaven forbid we come up with summot worth talking about like Medview stopping all building work deeds and things.



It's not going in circles Pipie. You post way too much anyways

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 08:27

Why don`t the Medview owners go to the press?



I`m sure Kibris (Cyprus) Star would be interested.

Anonymous


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 09:42

Considering Safa owns the 'paper' which is a glorified advert for places where building work has stopped and frankly only fit for fish and chip wrappings

i doubt he would be interested in printing a damning article about medview muckups.

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 10:31

Last year Medview did run an article on naming and shaming campaign about developers.

At that time our site had just heard that there was a huge mortgage on our site. One owner wrote and asked if they shouldn't be putting their own house in order first? Answer:- The developments and media were owned by the same person but were two different things. Their nameing and shaming didn't last for long after this.



The butler

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 11:18

Why not ask the newspapers to publish lists of non payers.

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 20:01

batterboy58, Good idea. They could put it on Cyprus44 aswell and a list of all sites that are mortgaged.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 20:14

Good idea , but with an answer from non payers , on why they are not paying .

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 20:19

wasn't that Medview geezer the bloke who threatened to sue the poor lady from Home Buyers Pressure Group for 4.8 squillion quid for telling the truth ?





Nick

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 20:23

Yes, the very same.

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 20:24

Just read the news letter. It contains the usual utter arrogant rubbish that Ali Safa comes out with. The news letter states that purchasers cannot get their deeds within the discount period as Medview think that it will not be parcelised in time. Can I ask if anyone knows whether he has lifted the mortgages off properties that purchasers have bought in good faith? As Medview cannot parcelise any site until mortgages are lifted. If one of the pools at Esetenpe site is leaking it's because it wasn't built properly in the first place. IMHO it wouldve been leaking from day one. As for the maintenance charges, if other sites are making a profit charging £50 per month then theres no reason why medview cant. If your unhappy with the current situation form a committee and take over your own site management, other sites have done this. If Safa puts obstacles in your way, do what he does, use the media (obviously not Cyprus Star!).

Sandcastle


Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 215

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 21:47

Medview also own the water supply, sewage plants and many of the communal pools on their sites.



Very hard to take on another maintenance company that will then lay new pipelines, sewage disposal etc.



Sites with no mortgages still have no deeds and none will be released to none payers until all payments and interest have been paid.



Its hard to know which way to turn.

alanka


Joined: 15/09/2007
Posts: 154

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 23:35

Shame really that when an owners committee was being set up, it was a Brit that sabotaged the whole thing. Hope he can sleep at night

Anonymous


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 00:17

like to see what he has given up in the credit crunch............