we used to be GREAT britain

thetruth


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 268

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 07:19

what are we now?being told what to do by the eu.letting thousands of people in from all over the world,then having to support them.our own people are not being looked after,the orams should have the backing of the government,we pay our taxes and the last people our government looks after is us british.NOT SO GREAT ANYMORE ARE WE!

Geoff1131MK11


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 07:26

thetruth,

Thats why so many of us are over here.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 07:52

no the government are too busy filling in their GREAT big expense forms !!!



shows how much they earn when they can just write out a cheque for the amount they illegal scammed in the first place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I wouldn't hold your breathe don't think it has ever been GREAT in Britain not that it will ever get any better anytime soon - think of the sunsets and Efes in Cyprus instead!!

bridie


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 308

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 08:01

If you live in Kibris, why think of UK????

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 08:43

The Great in Great Britain refers to its geography, nothing else.

After the Old English period, Britain was used as a historical term only. Geoffrey of Monmouth in his pseudohistorical Historia Regum Britanniae (circa 1136) refers to the island of Great Britain as Britannia major ("Greater Britain"), to distinguish it from Britannia minor ("Lesser Britain"), the continental region which approximates to modern Brittany. The term "Great Britain" was first used officially in 1474, in the instrument drawing up the proposal for a marriage between Cecily the daughter of Edward IV of England, and James the son of James III of Scotland, which described it as "this Nobill Isle, callit Gret Britanee."

Jetski


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 584

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 09:19

Thankyou Vaughan - Isn't it a little warm to be wearing an anorak?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 09:23

Well done Vaughan - I've learnt something today.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 09:28

Thanks Vaughan , i've learned something today

Regards , Simbas

skybluesam


Joined: 24/12/2008
Posts: 447

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 09:30

Message 6 Love it!!!!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 09:37

We used to be Great Britain - now we are Grate Britain ( as in a drain cover, think about it ) )

Sid447


Joined: 15/05/2009
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 09:38

Thanks TRNCVaughan,



Background facts and information are always interesting.



Who cares about GB, UK, or whatever else they call it. Gave up on living there some time ago now.

Too much political correct-ness and support of fools and failures is frustrating to think about.



Better just think about the positives in life and they are more easily found in a lot of other countries.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 09:39

oh , you are on top form this morning Bill

love Pat x

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 10:52

Hey Jetski,



Nice one!

tommy13


Joined: 29/04/2009
Posts: 979

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 11:18

hey thnx trnc vaughan , i love history and learning things i didnt know , good stuff , did u get my email ?

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 11:53

Hi tommy13,



I did, but I couldn't open the attachment. Can you resend it in Autocad, please?

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 12:05

Sunday Times Travel section 10.5.09 had a reply from an International Lawyer, when asked if anyone owning a property in TRNC should be worried, replied that if their house was in the same ownership from 1974 until it was bought by the British owner, then they should be safe. If, however, there is a claim on the land, there is the choice of either doing nothing and hoping for the best, which is a risky option, or being proactive and starting some form of negotiation with the person(s) concerned. This Lawyer ended with the note "employ a reputable, experienced lawyer".



We went out of our way to ensure our property is pre '74 Turkish title, so have nothing to fear, but those who fall in the above category, must be concerned, after the Oram decision.

tommy13


Joined: 29/04/2009
Posts: 979

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 12:13

ill resend now

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 12:46

When the thread started I thought it was going to be an election flyer for the BNP !

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 13:25

Well I only hope all of you living over there get a fair deal when the problems are all sorted,because if you dont, I would imagine quite a few would be running back here with there tails between their legs,and asking for state handouts because they lost every thing on their paradise island.People who live in glass houses should not throw stones comes to mind.I know everything is not perfect here and never will be,but i feel better here than over there.Nice for holidays etc.as for actually living there,not at this particular moment..

tommy13


Joined: 29/04/2009
Posts: 979

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 13:40

did the autocad plans i sent open now vaughan ?

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 13:42

TRNCV.....I'm impressed with the historical knowledge...thanks.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 13:54

Vaughan. I don't know how you could remember things like that. I can't remember last week!

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 14:09

Shhhhhhhhh! Wikipedia....

canyavuz


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 363

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 14:33

msg 1,



"being told what to do by the eu.letting thousands of people in from all over the world"........

Have you got a problem with the thousands of foreign people in the UK?



If you dont like foreigners comming to the UK, then why are YOU doing the same thing to the TRNC?

You are a foreigner here, just like the Indians arre foreigners in the UK.



If the UK didnt want to be "be told what to do by the E.U" then maybe they should leave the E.U. But they can't do that because 60% of their exports go to the E.U, so their economy depends on it!



And lets not forget that it's the UK's EU membership that allows you to travel around the EU freely, for work and for residency, including the Greek cypriot administrated area. You need to be more grateful for the privalages that you have.

cyprusfox


Joined: 13/08/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 15:14

Well said Coachie & canyavuz. Some people are very quick to knock the UK.......and most of them don't even live there any more!

thetruth


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 268

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 15:47

who needs the eu,some of the most succesfull countrys in europe are not in the eu.but some of the worst are in the eu.

Amber


Joined: 26/09/2008
Posts: 561

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 15:55

In my opinion, Britain will always be GREAT BRITAIN. Proud of it and where I come from.

olliebaby


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 16:37

People should not worry about there properties . They have been given permission by kktc goverment to build there and they are the ones will sort out. The greeks are using these tactics to where down the turkish cypriots moral and economy, and scare off any investment on this side. Turkish cypriots houses have been knocked down, there land built on and cut up by roads. They dont tell you this with there great proganda machine. They are passing laws when the goverment has fallen back in 1974, without repesantation from the turkish cypriots who part on this constitution. Europe has failed and lied to the turkish cypriots in its promices in 2004. When greeks come to the kktc they have to show there passports, there laws are worthless in the kktc . What are they going to do bring over there bulldosers to the border, would like to see that! Laranca airport is on turkish land , why dont they knock that down.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:00

It still is GREAT britain



if you are a one legged lesbian from albainia that has one eye can not speak engish and have 6 children some of who have learning disabilities and special dietary needs and you are a member of some outrageous religous cult.

cyprusfox


Joined: 13/08/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:26

Yet another knocker of the UK.....who doesn't actually live there )

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:33

cyprusfox



I am still a British citizen and passport holder so I feel entitled to express an opinion, or would you restrict the right of people to criticise a country / government / policy's to people who only live in the said country ??

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 19:15

The term Great Britain was used to distinguish the Island of Britain from Brittany an English possession in France and simply referred to the fact that the island was larger than Brittany and they needed to be clear to which one they were referring.



All this business about "Great" Britain came along later and was just a distortion of the original meaning.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 21:29

Nige..Yes. The trouble is,you all want your cake and eat it.Worry about your problems and let us worry about the UK. You want what you can get out of the old country and live elsewhere,I am afraid it would not happen if I had any say.Same as these "immigrants" from the EU.they would be sent back to the last country they were in before coming to England, I.E France,Holland ,Belgium etc and let them foot the bill,they would soon ship them back from whence they came. Whether you hold a British Passport or not,if you do not permanently reside here,keep your comments to yourself thankyou...You now reside in the TRNC,spend more time about the problems you have there..

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 21:58

Coachie. It's only because of this government of ours we have the "immigrants" here, you won't accept that though will you, they are making the country attractive to them by giving them benefits they haven't earned, they don't stay in the country before England because they know they won't get anything.

Moover321


Joined: 11/04/2009
Posts: 649

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 22:09

When someone speaks from prejudice / hatred / self-interest there is no need for facts! Hence someone who calls themselves the truth he / she has no need for facts when their innate response is immotive!



It is any wonder that the same person complaining about foreiners in the UK is a foreigner in the TRNC!



Canyavuz is correct! People who live in glass houses should refrain from throwing stones!



What makes Britain great in my humble opinion is that is has a diversity second to none in terms of culture, intelligence and a sense of fair play!

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 22:39

Woodspeckie..But they do qualify for the benefits in the previous country.This is an EU ruling not our ruling.These other countries dont want the hassle,its easier to bung them onto a boat and send them over here.



Moover321..twas I that said about"glass houses" etc. Unfortuneately the fair play bit does not extend to its own population.All our country has to do is to stop paying the "extra" benefits,outside of those that the EU says they have to pay. We are the softest touch in the EU.Our Employment Laws are far softer than the rest of the EU.In France now the authorities are holding classes for these "immigrants" instructing them on the procedures for obtaining all these benefits. No doubt you will class me as" prejudiced " but I believe in Charity begins at home first,others afterwards. Like I said ,if I had my way they would not be here unless there was a position in the employment market for them,and being paid at least the minimum wage,not the slave wages you here in the press

Moover321


Joined: 11/04/2009
Posts: 649

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 12:14

Thanks for your message Coachie! I do not like to label people no matter how much I might disagree with them! The problem, if there is one with "foreigners" coming to the UK, is not that people come to make a better life for themselves, it is rather that our rules may or may not be those that bring about an optimum outcome for the country as a whole. That is why we have a system of democracy where the 'lawmakers' are empowered to make such judgements. If those judgements are made and the outcome is one with which we individually or collectively disagree, then we change those who have been empowered to be the lawmakers! Blaming the 'foreigners' is like balming the horse for bolting because someone forgot to bolt the stable door!



Just like you and many others who have chosen to be in the TRNC you will take advantage of whatever comes your way!



As an aside do you know when and why passports were introduced and did we (GB) have passports when we colonised other parts of the world?

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 12:24

cyprusfox







I am still a British citizen and passport holder so I feel entitled to express an opinion, or would you restrict the right of people to criticise a country / government / policy's to people who only live in the said country ??



I await your reply with interest.......................................

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 13:09

Moover321..I do not reside in the TRNC.It does not matter which set of law makers you have ruling,they will not change the laws on immigration,too big a vote catcher now. If they were only allowed the same benefits as they were getting in their own country,I doubt whether they would even bother coming here.I have paid taxes all my working life and even now when I am retired istill have to pay,so if that is the case then I want to see my money spent on British people who have contributed something,and not on a load of immigrants who have contributed nothing to the system at all. Yes, I know there are British people who have paid nothing into the system,but eventually they do in some form or another. I am not aCommunist,or a member of the BNP just an ordinary bloke who gets annoyed from time to time when he sees stupid politicians ruining his country with stupid legislation..As I said earlier "charity begins at home".Look after your own first and then others afterwards..

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 13:31

"Stupid politicians ruining the country" = Labour government

Moover321


Joined: 11/04/2009
Posts: 649

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 13:41

By blaming the foreigners you simply deal with the system and not the cause. If there are too many votes supporting the current immigration policy then that is the outcome of a democratic process - isn't it?



Apologies for suggesting that you were in the TRNC, however, there are a good many Brits living all over the world and making use of the system as it exists to their advantage wherever possible. Ultimately, the debate comes around to economics (money). Britain has an aging population and there is an economic need to have more younger workers. The USA knew this some years ago that is why a large proportion of new immigrants! Just as we reaped the benefits of having an Empire we need to be cognisant that co-exiting on this beautiful planet is a two-way street!



I can understand why people are angry when they look at what they have 'paid' in to the system and some others simply come and take advantage of it! But understand how the system was built in the first place!

canyavuz


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 363

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 13:55

Moover 321....i couldnt agree with you more.



In my opinion, if you pay the taxes and have citizenship, your entitled to what everyone else is.

Simple as.

The Indians, Pakistanis and Chinese in the UK pay their taxes and have citizenship (and are just as British as the English, by citizenship), so should be entitled to healthcare etc.



Why should we treat foreigners as 2nd class citizens?

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 14:17

Woodspeckie..Careful now..There are as many stupid Tories and Libs politicians.It is not the exclusive right of Labour to be stupid.... Mrs Thatcher turned out to be biggest idiot of them all. She really lost the plot in her later years as an MP.....

borodave


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 18:15

wots wrong with the bnp

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 18:54

Sonic..There are others who will be just as bad as Gordon Brown.The one thing I admire about the bloke is that he has not taken the easy way out and done a runner and left all this mess to someone else.Why you all think that this is all his doing is beyond me.The government has no say in how private enterprise conducts itself,this the responsibility of the boards of the companies concerned.Vent your anger on them.The problem with the British people is,while everything is going along with what they want, the ruling party of the day is the best thing since sliced bread.The moment things go pear shaped they are the biggest idiots on this earth,but when you have finished criticising the Labour party,think of the good things they have done for you..I>E Free health care,prescriptions,education,minimum wage,4 weeks paid holiday,Maternity pay for married women and single mothers,40 hour week,and endless other benifits none of which the Tories want you to have.Pay for everything Party...

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 19:27

He won't need to do a runner after the European elections, and he will be leaving the mess to someone else. And what else has he done, benefits to scroungers who don't want to work, kids having babies so they get a house and benefits you can't move for prams in town when they meet up with their mates, paying 16 year olds to stay on at school and getting kids to go to University to keep them off the dole figures then no jobs when they finish. Scrapped the 10p tax I now pay more even though my allowances have gone up. I could go on.....

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 19:54

Bring back conscription

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 19:56

cyprusfox















I am still a British citizen and passport holder so I feel entitled to express an opinion, or would you restrict the right of people to criticise a country / government / policy's to people who only live in the said country ??







I await your reply with interest....................................... ..HELLO

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 20:39

Coachie my friend, where do you get this notion that everything is free ?

Free healthcare, free education, free prescriptions, free maternity pay, free paid holidays etc etc



Coachie you of all people should know "NOTHING" in this world is for free, it has to be paid for and we the British public are getting stung big style to fund this big free give away by this free spending squandering corrupt govenment you support.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 21:23

Turtle. Coachie thinks because he is happy with his lot he thinks everyone else is. He needs to go to Specsavers for some new free glasses, I have to pay for mine, pay the dentist, pay high council tax for what, potholes in the roads, it is costing councils more in compensations than it would to fill all the pot holes in.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 21:32

I tell you what Turtle. What you pay in NI contributions each week would not pay for a visit to the doctors in other countries.It cost me £60 to get a doctor to write me a prescription in Crete last year then I had to pay £27 to get the medication. Back here I pay nothing to see the doctor and nothing for my medicines.You pay your NI contribution and you can see the doctor 7days a week and have medicatioin free as well. I did not say free holidays, I said paid holidays.Likewise with Maternity pay for Women.Like I said before Turtle,its not just the Labour party/government who are corrupt or have you not been following the news lately. If your lot had their own way you would be paying a damn site more than any Labour government wants you to pay.Big deal when they give you a 1p off your income tax and every one of their lot get 50p.This what you Tories dont like when the poor get poorer so do the rich.I hope to be around to see what your lot will do IF they win the election..

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 21:45

I tell you what coachie, I had the need to ring my doctors 2 weeks ago and guess what 10 days to wait.

My brother in law was admitted to hospital with severe stomach pains in Sheffield on Wednesday at 10.15am

and finally got a bed at 1.30am.............................the next day !

My son went to the dentist yesterday for his check-up and they found a small cavity thats in need of filling, they said they could not do it there and then and to make another appiontment....guess what his new appointment is in October, fantastic health service I don,t think so mate.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 21:57

Bring back contradiction.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 22:04

I simply could not agree Bill !

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 22:18

Coachie. Did you have holiday insurance to make a claim on? I took ill in Turkey last year I was taken by ambulance to hospital where they were waiting at the door with a chair to wheel me in would not let me walk, I was taken to be examined, given an ECG, X Ray. 2 blood tests, blood pressure taken, then a Scan and was told within the 1/2hr I had gall stones, within the hour I had the results of the blood test. I was kept in overnight my husband had a bed settee in my room and he was given meals and drinks. After returning home I took ill 11pm phoned the out of hours Gp he wouldn't come out he sent an ambulance, they refused to take me because my husband said he would follow in the car so they told him to take me with him, I waited 4.1/2 hrs to see a doctor who sent me home and told me to see my own GP next day.

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 23:10

Bring back hanging

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 00:12

Woodspeckie..Why have you got to pay and I dont?I have to pay at my dentist,and I only waited 1day for a doctors appointment.Yes I have holiday insurance,but because I was in a EU country,I was refunded the cost of the medication,but you are missing the point,that if I lived there I would have to pay for everything.You only got the attention you mentioned because your insurance company were paying,had you lived there you would not have received the same sort of welcome if you were a state patient. I have to pay full poll tax the same as you and you can thank the illustrious Thatcher for that.I really do not see what you have got to complain about,I get the same pension as you so if as you say" I am happy with my lot" why are you not happy with yours. If you are unfortunate enough to fall ill again in Turkey,dont tell them you have insurance and see what happens.

Turtle..Perhaps your brother should move down here where the service is much better.I never said the system was perfect did

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 01:36

Coachie, as you well know the North Staffs have a terrible record I myself use the Derby Royal Imfirmary.



As I said the North Staffs is one of the worst performing hospitals in the UK, you must get special service good on yer my friend.

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 01:58

I work for the NHS as a medical secretary in GP's practice. Now, the area in which I work has a great number of immigrants, i.e. Portuguese and Lithuanians. Mostly Portuguese. Coachie, you have a great many views the same as my departed Father had - i.e. the working class man votes Labour. I can see your point, because, according to my late Father, the Labour govt. gave #us# all a better standard of living; as you quoted, the NHS, etc.etc. which, of course, no-one can argue with.



However, when you work in a job such as I do, when the immigrants come in (we have paid translators there twice a week because they cannot be bothered to learn English), they demand operations/scans/investigations (because they know exactly what they are entitled to) it does tend to make your blood boil a bit. Then we have the others, who turn up in a cab (can't get the bus) and then manage to get to the puh of a lunchtime. Meanwhile, I'm working for £8 an hour and have to pay



For every b

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 02:12

Jeannie it must be so stressful and all the other posts I cant beleive what goes on. The nation must be up in arms with the expenses scandle then we hear all this. We are not having a great time here as most of my close friends on the board know but hey go back NEVER

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 02:22

Lilli - sorry my darling - too late a night, too much wine and a bloody painful back.



Will be in touch tomorrow.



LOL



Jeannie

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 04:28

Who on earth is going to vote on 4th June for any of the main parties? They have taken the piss and fleeced us all, moats, swimming pools, and the like, well I think either the electorate will not vote, or they will vote for UKIP or an independent party. It is now beyond a joke that the taxpayer are funding a lifestyle of the people THEY trusted to run the UK. I suppose we all should have known or at least had an incline when they gave away billions without a care in the world to their buddies at the banks who are still living it large. Make them all pay it back I say. We taxpayers need every penny to make sure that our public services are improved. It comes to something when, things are so bad, that you can catch a terminal illness just by being in one of these dirty hospitals, and whose fault it that? The government for spending elsewhere. That's who.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 07:33

Jean what have you done to your back that you are still in so much pain? x

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 09:48

Good morning Dee, Jean has probably got an enlarged or herniated disc in her lower back & it's giving her a lot of grief. She is in the process of sorting out a scan, but with the good old NHS that may take months.



Paul

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 15:43

turtle ...the North Staffs Hospital is the best hospital in England for heart operations.When I took ill on the 7th Feb2004 I was diagnosed within 4days and operated on within 4days.The Surgeon who did me had done nearly 600 ops in 3yrs and only lost 16 patients,which is pretty good by any "casualty" standards.The aftercare was brilliant,although I did have an infection problem,which they cleared up and I was fit to go back to work in 3months.Some of the people in the same ward as me went back to work in 6/8Weeks. I think as far performance is concerned I think you are getting mixed up with Stafford hospital and the North Staffs. The former hospital being the subject of a government enquiry.When I was in there, patients in there from all over the country so it cant be that bad Turtle,unless it has gone down bank since,but have not seen anything in the local rag to suggest it has.I dont know any thing about the Derby hospital so cannot comment on it..

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 16:03

Tarasprings..I agree about your dirty hospital comment,but the government are not responsible for cleaning hospitals,PRIVATE companies are.These companies are awarded contracts on what they say they will do for the price they are quoting,but they never do.They cut corners at every opportunity to increase their profit,mainly because their quote was to low, and employ people on less than minimum wage,so these people have no training in proper anti infection cleaning. I know people who have been employed by some of these companies and from what they say are expected to do with the equipment allowed is beyond belief. You see pre 1979 the hospital nurses used to do the cleaning of the wards with the ward sister looking over their shoulder to make sure it was done correctly,then Mrs Thatcher turned the hospitals into Trust with limited budgets,and targets to meet.Cleaning was the first casualty,meals were the second,nurses were next,the only improvement was in office staff. Priorities wrong

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 16:27

Coachie. You wont admit that this government is responsible for a lot of the things that have gone on but you keep on blaming Mrs Thatcher for everything. The reason i'm not happy with my lot is because of where my taxes are going to, we have 2 local labour councillors who do nothing for our village but have pictures in the town newspaper involved with anything they can get headlines with.



When I was in Turkey hospital I wasn't asked anything about insurance until I was due to be discharged. The room I was in was cleaned 3 times in one day, early morning, afternoon and evening.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 18:16

hang them all

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 18:38

Woodspeckie..I do accept that this government have done things wrong,but they are not solely responsible for world economic crisis.Its getting to the point with some people that if they catch a cold its the governments fault.Mrs Thatcher has a lot to answer for as far as I am concerned.I rember her favourite words"the NHS is safe in my hands"and then starts to dismantle it.Sells off everything that belonged to this country,to private enterprise,under the promise" it will be better for the consumer" Put thousands of people on the dole then complains about what is costing the country.Took us into 2 wars costing millions,but then that does not matter does it, You doexactly what you accuse me of,not accepting what your lot did.There was only two good Tories,Enoch Powell and Ted Heath,and they got rid of the pair of them.We have two tory councillors on our local council who do absolutely nothing for our village except help a local business man get around planning laws,it works both ways..

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 10:46

re msg 1



Just found this



Is your handle meant to be a joke?



EU membership means citizens of the EU and EEA nations can come to live ( and work - recent states with some restrictions) - hardly the whole "world"



The flip side is that UK citizens can come to Cyprus and live / work with the same rights - apart from not being able to vote in National nations - no need for permissions to purchase, blood tests, "visas"..



re msg 26 >>who needs the eu,some of the most succesfull countrys in europe are not in the eu.but some of the worst are in the eu.<<



Could you please tell us which countries you refer to ?

Switzerland , may be .. Norway.. ? Be careful... you may not be clued up on there immigration rules - ref EU citizens - since 2007..



Thetruth is some of your ideals may not be based on *facts* - but let's not let get in the way..



So, if some of you say - I came to "TRNC" to escape the rule of the EU.. one has to wonder what you'd be running from;)

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 11:43

OMG.. re msg 70



spelling howler alert .. there immigration rules /should be *THEIR* immigration rules..... That EDIT post feature would sure be appreciated.

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 13:38

littlenige wrote: "if you are a one legged lesbian from albainia that has one eye"



Erm...do you think she has a friend?

Danatnorth


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 15:21

Its all quite tragic really!! The government (or any governmet to follow) are tied up in knots chasing their tails due to the simple facts that they only use short term fixes for all problems! They are 'in' for four years so they only paper over the large cracks and deal with the small issues of the day, then the next bunch come 'in' and see the large cracks they have inherited think 'not on my watch' and paper over them again! Its only a matter of time before you get serious crumbling/collapse! As for the expenses scandal, of course they are all working within the criterias in place... they wrote them BUT!!!! these expenses forms have been handed in like this for years and whilst life has been peachy no body said anything, You would think though being semi intelligent folk they'd have stopped being quite so flippent with it no that everything is a little dire!

Before anyone asks

I do live in the UK

I do own my own house

I have no kids

I work overtime to make ends meet

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 15:29

Surely we are not that bad are we Danatnorth ? my son lives in Hardingstone !

Regards , Simbas

Danatnorth


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 15:46

Sorry Simbas

I didnt mean to offend you with my comments, also unfortunately dont know where Hardingstone is! All i was trying to get across was if a party was going to be competely honest the wouldn't stand a chance of being elected! Example of honest party;

If you elect us unfortunately nothing will change over the next four years, well actually you will have to re elect us for another four years and then..... again nothing will happen. But on the plus side if you re elect us again by the end of that four years things will improve!! I know your not happy about imigrants but we are very short on money for your pensions (already spent) and need their tax money to support this fund. And because bank directors gave themselves large bonuses (that they refuse to give back) we the public had to bail them out to the figure of around ten years of uk expenditure. this will take many many years to pay back to the world bank fund to get us even on an even keel.

Would you vote for them??

Danatnorth


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 16:20

Ha Ha

Hardingstone is on my doorstep in Northampton! Cheers Simbas, that did make me laugh not knowing!

Back on topic

Although at times i moan about England there isnt another single place in the world i'd want to be from!!

As being from Britian means you have one over on almost every other country in the world.

So if the question is

Should Britain keep Great in its title?

Course it should it earnt that right 100 times over

on the negative side, it just a shame its been run into the ground by idiots and do gooders

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 18:27

Just had a quick scan at this thread but the one thing I think we have all lost sight of is that a minority of Brits took the Great out of GB. Working in hospitals you see all the scams, alcoholics get extra on their benefits (or they still did in 2005) at that time it was £15 per week. Others that have never worked or wanted would roll up in taxi's for outpatient appointments and expect us to pay for the taxi, which in a lot of cases we did to avoid a complaint. Junkies with their methadone that weren't fooling anyone they were still taking herion and selling the methadone! The list is endless I could go on all night. And furthermore where I lived and worked in Scotland there was not a lot of immigrants and it was not a poor area.

One guy that drank in the local pub used his mobility car as a taxi!! Now that says it all

Chris

CasaCoco


Joined: 06/04/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 18:44

Enoch Powell had the vision to see what would happen to the country if it continued on the same path...unfortunately, he was ahead of time in his thinking and very few people believed him. My dad was a great supporter of Enoch.



It's easy for people to knock the UK when they live elsewhere, which is the reason they do live elsewhere, but the grass isn't always greener on the other side... All countries have their problems and even the Brits who live in TRNC moan about things there. In fact come to think of it...Brits generally moan about everything wherever they are.... I'm no different, I live in Bahrain and moan about life here

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
11/06/2009 20:23

Enoch was the most intelligent visionary in Britsh politics in the entire of history. He was unique in that he had principles too.......unlike the lesser snakes on the government benches ! His predictions rate with Nostradamus in their accuracy and sadly we are now reaping what cretinous governments have sown !

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
12/06/2009 09:48

Was it not our Enoch who encouraged West Indians in the good old days to come to the UK and work for London Transport? Was it not our Enoch who several years later who complained that the country had too many immigrants? what's the saying 'Can't have your cake and eat it'.

Tourist



Joined: 29/04/2008
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
12/06/2009 14:31

I note that this thread started on 11th January 2009 and is still going strong. Some of the postings are very short on facts and high on rhetoric. I am a 73 years old Pakistani with UK nationality. I arrived in England in 1952 for technical training with Royal Air Force and have lived here since with several breaks for expatriate contracts as an airline engineer. During this time I have worked in several third world countries. I also own a bungalow in Karakum. But for last 7 years choose not to live in it. As such I have some idea of problems being faced by some of the Brits. Some one like me is in ideal position to post on this thread. The problem with most of the Brits. is that they will not look in the mirror and admit that most feel that they are superior to every one else on this Earth. Nearly all of you are resident in TRNC because in the beginning the cost of living and housing was cheap also because you think you have got some sort of status here and not just another JOE B

Tourist



Joined: 29/04/2008
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
12/06/2009 14:38

Previous posting incomplete please refer to this postings

I note that this thread started on 11th January 2009 and is still going strong. Some of the postings are very short on facts and high on rhetoric. I am a 73 years old Pakistani with UK nationality. I arrived in England in 1952 for technical training with Royal Air Force and have lived here since with several breaks for expatriate contracts as an airline engineer. During this time I have worked in several third world countries. I also own a bungalow in Karakum. But for last 7 years choose not to live in it. As such I have some idea of problems being faced by some of the Brits. Some one like me is in ideal position to post on this thread. The problem with most of the Brits. is that they will not look in the mirror and admit that most feel that they are superior to every one else on this Earth. Nearly all of you are resident in TRNC because in the beginning the cost of living and housing was cheap also because you think you h

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
12/06/2009 14:49

Hi Danatnorth , i was only pulling your leg , you did'nt offend in any way .

Regards , Simbas

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
12/06/2009 14:58

Hi Tourist,

Something not quite right here you say you are 73 but your profile says different but that is by the by!!

I and my husband are here because it was going to give us a better life. We have both worked really hard since leaving school and were in a financial state to retire early. We had considered Australia first but with aged parents it was too far. Yes the cost of housing here was cheaper than England but not that much cheaper than Scotland where we lived.

As for status we have less of that here as I was a Sister in a big hospital and my husband was a partner in a thriving business. So can I suggest before you come on to forums like this that you do not generalize about people you know nothing about!

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
12/06/2009 17:19

Well said Tourist. What can one do about trailer trash?

steveafc


Joined: 12/12/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
12/06/2009 23:07

littlenige?.....................why is it that every comment you make here is so confrontational?.....i cant imagine you are like that in the real world without getting a smack in the gob every day..........point one.........i ain't british .......I'm English and proud of it...........point two.......love living in Kibris proud of that too............point three ..............(errmmmm) who's round is it? roflmfao !!

begonia


Joined: 19/05/2009
Posts: 229

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 17:18

Oh goodness ! I think a lot of people here on the forum are so bored that they stick knives in to get a reaction.

Why are so many of you so unpleasant to each other ? A lot of people try to post sensible topics only to have them hijacked by these people.

Incidentally I bet some of the TCs wish a lot of you would go back to the uk and stop complaining and using up their resources. Sound familiar ?