German Specialties Restaurant in TRNC

renelapin



Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 16:22

What do you think ? Would a German Specialities Restaurant and Bar have a chance in TRNC ?

Oferring simple cuisine like grilled sausage (Bratwurst) and grilled ribs ( Rippchen ) and serving draft

efes in big glasses with German beer brandings on them ? What should such a restaurant offer to make

you go there ? Any ideas welcome, thanks,



Rene

tommy13


Joined: 29/04/2009
Posts: 979

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 16:41

I have some german friends who frequent here and live here fulltime , so it may be interesting , they tell me they have a get together every month , theres a german residents group and im told 30 - 40 of them get together regularly.. maybe ask them , i could put you in touch with zie krauts

renelapin



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Posts: 136

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 16:49

Hi Tommy,



I'm a kraut myself and I know many of the Germans living in NC. My idea is do the job not only for them

(there are not enough of them in NC to bring good capacity to such aproject). I'm interrested in the

opinion and the ideas of you all !



many thanks,



Rene

tommy13


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Message Posted:
17/05/2009 16:53

Hey renelapin , i just sent you an email with respective contacts , good luck

japeal



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Message Posted:
17/05/2009 17:00

If you were to serve German beer especially 'Veltins' you could count on my business

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 17:02

Don't encourage too many of them here, we'll have to get down the beach at 5 in the morning to get a sun bed. )

waddo


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Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 17:04

We cycled through Germany on the way here and I tried to eat Germany out of shnitzels and spargle (asparagus) a valient effort but doomed to failure - must try harder one day. I would frequent such a place for sure but what about the pork products and the Muslem culture - you may find it hard to fill the gap between the tourist season and normal life!



I would think that a German style buffet bar as you can find in most big German stores would go down well along with the help yourself breakfasts and lunches that are so popular there. Again there is the pork issue but Ezic seem to get away with it on an almost solely chicken standard! May well be worth a try as I have not seen any German eating houses her at all. Would think that West of Girne is a bigger catchment area as well - should not have said that as I live on the east side!



Good luck if you go for it.

jacktheladett


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 528

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 17:05

I think it's a good idea, anything to give us a bit more variety!



There are plenty of T.C.'s here with german links, and plenty of ex-forces that would have been posted to germany, plus, it's different, so as long as it's good fare, it could be a winner.

renelapin



Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 18:01

Thank you all for your feedback, the idea is only a few hours old now. I think without porc it will

not work, you can't replace everything by chicken. Surely it is possible to buy porc in the south, but

I'm not a friend of buying there and such a kind of business relationship could each day be cancelled by

political affairs. On the other hand there are lots of empty lorries going from Germany to Turkey every day,

perhaps this would be a chance for reliable delivery of porc products, although in this case they surely need

some conservation treatment.

Doyen - I swear I'll never take the towel from your sunbed.

Thanks and hope some more ideas will come up.



Rene

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 18:09

Hi Rene, plenty of pork where I live in Germany, but also lots of Turks!.They are not very happy with the market stalls selling ribs and haxn, but that is their problem.

My favourite here is 'schnitzel wiener art', but I also love zwiebelrostbraten, also Rosti and Bratkartoffeln.

We found some lamb chops recently, so they are sitting in the freezer waiting for lunch one day.

Codger


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 153

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 18:12

There is/was a German restaurant in Alanya called the Green Frog? Superb ordinary German food snitzel, pork steaks etc with wonderful sauces , potato dishes like rosti and it was packed out every night.

If you did something like that here you would get my custom.

I'm dribbling at the thought of it all, or is it my age!



Codger

renelapin



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Posts: 136

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 18:15

Hi Kaiser,

sounds like you're in the southern part of Germany, we're in the north. In a few days we'll take off to NC,

we've been there many times up from 1999. Wiener Schnitzel, Haxn and Rostbraten you can cook of

calf meat instead of porc, Thank you.



Rene

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 18:26

hi rene its a lovely idea. We do have some german customers for sourkraut and bratwurst etc from our deli. However I have to say its very difficult to get all the german products that we get requested. I know if they could be got then its certainly a winner. I wish you well. xxxxxx

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 18:38

Hi Rene, yes we live in Gerolsbach, North of Munchen.

I love it round here, also delighted with the Deutsch medical services.

Waiting for the next village Fest!

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 18:47

If you do eisbein, sauerkraut and stampf kartofel you can count on me.

dozza67


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Posts: 607

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 20:08

What about Jagerschnitzel mit bratkatoffel. I would be first through the doors for that.

kaiserphil


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Message Posted:
17/05/2009 20:32

dozza - no you wouldn't mate - join the queue!

renelapin



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Message Posted:
17/05/2009 21:13

Mates, you're giving me courage !

I'm just back out of my kitchen, made some handgrated roesties served with smoked salmon and peppered

cream quark, easy to do und very delicious, perhaps even healthy.

Jaegerschnitzel - no problem. Stampfkartoffel- no problem. We got many things in NC - potatoes not

only for making chips. As been said - where to get the porc meat ?

Another aspect - what do you think the place should look like ?

I think of heavy wood made furniture, comfortable seats, not a lot of this and that. Tables could be pure

wood surface, often cleaned, no

renelapin



Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 21:19

frippery. (sorry somehow there was an interruption). Waitresses looking German ? Blonde, ample,

traditional clothes ?

Music ? I don't like militarry marches or "Schlager", what about your ideas ?



Regards,



Rene

Magbs


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 21:36

Pork? Waitresses? And what about beer? I miss the tasty Kölsch, also German Schwarzbier are among my favorites

renelapin



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Posts: 136

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 21:48

Dimka, thanx, beer specialities should be there, too. But I'm thinking about the basics at the moment,

goods needed to be imported will be on top. They make the whole thing expensive, but perhaps you're

right - efes for reasonable price and specialities for the price of lovers.



Regards,



Rene

renelapin



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Posts: 136

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 22:06

Lilli, what are the 3 products mostly wanted and not possible to get ? You know - Sauerkraut - sourkrout-

chukrut -sukru - you can produce on your own. But it takes a few month and you need a dark (ok) and

cold (!) place for it.

We'll be in NC in a few days and althouh its a long way from east catalkoy perhaps we can meet and

talk about a sukru joint venture. Our turkish mobile is 0533 848 3896.



Regards,



Rene

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 00:04

Rene rabbit - "Another aspect - what do you think the place should look like ?"

Just like the restaurants in all my local bars/ gasthauses, lots of attractive wood, no modernistic tat, you will know exactly what I mean!

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 00:07

Hi Rene I look forward to it. The german and sweedish customers we have do love Mortadella salami and of course san Daniele prosciutto. Amongst other things they always ask me for .My number is 05338336911

I look forward to hearing from you xxxx

michelle3012


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Posts: 578

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 00:07

MY German Husband said he would come to your Restuarant......and he said schnell!

karakum5c



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Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 00:41

Sorry restaurant definately a non starter, German cuisine definately an acquired taste not for the unintiated

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 06:31

Atmosphere?

Oompah music and James Last. How about "Wir fahren gegen Engeland" and "Horst Wessel" leid?

scoobydoo


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Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 07:26

sounds good to me. I can't remember the name of the german meals i used to eat as a kid but i loved german food!

Mindy



Joined: 27/10/2008
Posts: 1210

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 07:39

Rene

No shortage of pork in Astro supermarket and there is the pork shop opposite Starling in Alsancak, I miss the Weiner shnitzel and jaeger sauce, we often make brat kartoffel, we would definitely visit said establishment.

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
18/05/2009 08:30

Which Astro does pork? The Alsancak one doesn't.

Cyprusraider


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Posts: 99

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 09:21

Pork products are freely available in North Cyprus, Astro Girne, Bell Foods, to name a few

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 10:01

The big Astro on the left heading west out of the town centre has a pork counter. Or at least it did when I left there 1 year ago.

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 10:05

By the way Rene, no 'oompah' music, lederhosen or girls in trad dress, most of the Bayerische folk can't abide any of that stuff!

Apart from the odd fanatic, it's strictly for the tourists at the Oktoberfest.

And no pointy-hats!

Kantara


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 661

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 10:19

Hello Rene,



we will be your first customers!

On our wish list we have:



Bratwurst

Currywurst

Rotkohl

Sauerkraut

Loewensenf

Krautsalat

Rollbraten

Matjes

Gruenkohl mit Kohlwurst

Rouladen



..to be continued...

dozza67


Joined: 11/07/2008
Posts: 607

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 11:06

Rene, where are you thinking of opening? Hope it's the west side of Girne - LOL

jacktheladett


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 528

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 11:32

Looks like you are onto a winner Rene, best get in there before someone else nicks your idea!



There is a pig/pork farm, the owner has the shop in Alsancak and supplied/supplies Astro.



Please open it on the wide side!

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 11:45

Hi kaiserphil,



A year in TRNC is a long time. The only place I know you can get a regular supply of pork is The Pork Shop in Alsancak. He sells the biggest, fattiest chops I've ever seen. Free range, swill-fed by the taste of them. Yum!

Hurmus



Joined: 13/01/2009
Posts: 37

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 12:16

I have never tried German Cuisine. But would love to

When you open please send the details of wear the Restaurant will be



H.

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 12:40

Message 37 - you are right Vaughan, a year in TRNC is better than a week in politics! I recall that Erdener used to sell a limited amount of pork, but that may also have fallen by the wayside now.

renelapin



Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 15:28

Okay - I'll better run for a patent application and a trademark registering. "Adolfs Kraut Hut" ?

Regards,

Rene

renelapin



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Posts: 136

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 15:30

Jackthelad,



which one is the wide side ? Take a walk on the .... ?

jacktheladett


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Posts: 528

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 16:17

Oh what an idiot! (me, that is) I meant the WEST side of course!!



There's a nice empty ex-restaurant unit - that used to be Cousins - on the main Alsancak road opp. Starlings, good position for you, set up for indoor and outdoor eating, right on the main road near the shops and Deniz Kizi hotel, Kings Court and Villa Club.



Or there's what used to be Mediterranean Breeze Restaurant, (then Aquarium) opp. Kervansary Beach, on the road that leads up to the Mercure Hotel, nice little catchment area there aswell. It's up for rent I think. Quite big, room for an Oompah Band and a good floor for dancing!

beno12



Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 124

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 21:01

Hi Rene, "Schonen Gruß aus Salzgitter" would like to wish you luck if if if you give it a try ??

would think it would be in the girne area at least it would be value for money being under German Management and first class service..love to try your erbsensuppe-Kassler with sauerkraut u.s.w maaaaaaaaaa lecker.

beno12



Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 124

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 21:06

The Germans meet at "Moon over the water " I think the last Wensday in the month...?

himen


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Message Posted:
18/05/2009 21:13

rene thats the best thing ewer plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz,,,,open the german pub and the red chilli sausages uuuuuuuuuuu i cane kill sombody four one off them...and shnicell ass well,,,,,,,,,,,

The-Wicks


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Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 21:18

jacktheladett - you're right - the old Cousins place is an ideal spot and set up nicely for indoor and outdoor eating. Just a word of caution here though. The owner told us that they were forced to move because the greedy Landlord put up the rent so much that they couldn't afford to stay there. In typical TRNC fashion, the place has remained empty since they moved. You'd think that some rent was better than none, but that's the mentality, as I'm sure you know.



renelapin - good luck with your venture, if you decide to take the plunge. You have certainly had a lot of positive feedback



J

renelapin



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Posts: 136

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 21:55

beno,

you're in Salzgitter at the moment ? I'm not far away - Hannover area. We'll be back from NC on

June 9th, perhaps we can meet for a lecker erbsensoup here. The german Stammtisch at moon over water is

a new one for those who live round Gazimagusa. The old one for the north shore Germans ( and German

Speakers) is on the first tuesday a month at Courtyard Inn, Karakum.

The-wicks,

yes I'm happy with this lot of fine feedback. But the idea is still in its babyboots. Next week in NC

I'll start some more investigations.

Jacktheladd,

the information about the farmer could be very usefull. Can you please tell me where exactly I can find him ?

To you all:

If this idea will come true, I'll invide you all feedback-givers for free bratwurst with loewensenf (lions mustard) and an efes (don't believe in being able to offer German beer except efes will be in the boat to fake some).

Regards,

Rene



MfG

Rene

jacktheladett


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Posts: 528

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 22:00

Rene, I would imagine you will get his contact details from the pork shop oppo Starling supermarket on the main Alsancak road, (very close to the ex-Cousins site).

Best of luck, this may be a VERY good idea!

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 22:24

Rene - put some coke in the efes and call it doppelbockbier.

renelapin



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Posts: 136

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 22:43

Hi Kaiser,

you're my man - nur noch ein bisschen purer Alkohol dazu - it may work. Think you are multilingual, how

could you find out my family name "Hase"?



Pfietdi,



Rene

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:01

'Lapin'? Cool it man, still learning Deutsch, aber langsam. One problem is I have an American girl who has lived here for a long time, and speaks the language fluently.

Before I met her I had to speak for myself, like sorting out things like the Finanzamt, AOK etc. Now I am a little lazy, but I do my best. Soon learnt how to read a menu!

She teaches English, so I help her out, after all she only speaks American. Cue for TurboTurk!

beno12



Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 124

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:05

rene, yes I,m in SZ at the moment fly back to nc on the 8th june (Hannover-Larnaca) got a very good flight price from Condor 138 euro return (smiley price) pity will miss you on erbsensoup day will have to take you up on that at a later date...ok Yes I,m in the Gazimagusa area walking distance from Salamis Conti Hotel.

renelapin



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Posts: 136

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:06

But - Lapin is French ! Are you sure she is American ?

renelapin



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Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:14

Beno,



we will leave on the same plane you're coming with, please be kind to the crew, we paid much more !

When will you be back in the country of Abwrackprämie ?



Rene

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:14

Positive Reiner, we are off to Pittsburgh in a few days!

I speak French, far better than I speak Deutsch - but watch this space! By 'problem' I meant that her speaking Deutsch fluently means that I am not forced to speak for myself so much.

But I am able to order a well-done rump steak!

renelapin



Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:18

And what do you get ? Well-done means "gut gemacht". My advice: In Germany you should order it

"through" ((durch)gebraten).

beno12



Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 124

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:38

rene, fly back on the 22th ,then we,ll fly back to n.c in sept again around the second week for 2 weeks ,heres a good tip look into Condors web-site on thursdays around mid-day this it the time they have the cheap flight offers never at weekend they rise !!! have just looked into the site the same flight now cost 338 euros for 1 !!!!



Chris

cathy-tj


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Posts: 24

Message Posted:
03/06/2009 04:30

It is true that service plays a very important role in the running of a restaurant. Personnally, i really agree that restaurant should try it's best to offer customer prompt and convinient service. Customer usually become impatient when they can't get timely service, and they have to cry out loudly or keep waving hands, restaurant calling system can help to solve this problem, it includs buttons that placed on tables, and display sreen carried by waiters, when customers need service he just need to press buttons and then waiters will receive it. You can find the similar products on website such as http://www.finyelectronics.com

tommy13


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Message Posted:
03/06/2009 08:42

hey ren there you are , bodo from mercedes has been looking for you , please contact him

phylray



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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
03/06/2009 10:30

My nephew from Germany and his German-Turkish wife are coming again at N.C end of

Sept. I will inform them of what I hear, but I know they love the local food too, for a change.

My Austrian sister-in-law is a wonderful, (professional) cook and have enjoyed lots of good

food at their home in Germany. Learnt some recipes too.

Kantara


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Posts: 661

Message Posted:
03/06/2009 10:46

Hi Tommy,

I passed your message to Rene.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
03/06/2009 11:02

Thank you kindly Kantara .. is that a photo of you in your profile may i ask ?

fire starter


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Message Posted:
03/06/2009 16:58

phyl

we also have family in germany and my favourite thing my german sister in law taught me was to make rumtopf.

not sure if the spelling is correct.

have made a similar thing here with vodka and strawberries, our cypriot friends love it.

my favorite one is with vodka and lemons great on a hot summer day with lots of ice.



apart from that we spent 4 days in germany with the family, the only time we ate out we went to a turkish restaurant.

turkish food takes some beating!

Kantara


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Posts: 661

Message Posted:
04/06/2009 10:20

Hi Tommy,



do you know Nil Burak?



I am using her picture...



Kind regards

Kantara

tattlad


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Posts: 479

Message Posted:
04/06/2009 11:31

In my experience German food is amongst the worst in Europe, I was going out with a German girl for 2 years, and even she couldn't wait to get to the UK for the food, she was told by all her friends that the food in the UK would be very bad, but after her first visit to a few restaurants here and some trips around supermarkets she was gobsmacked, and spent a bit of time telling her friends about it.

Kantara


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Posts: 661

Message Posted:
04/06/2009 11:51

Tastes differ....

phylray



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Message Posted:
04/06/2009 12:02

Hi firestarter

Recipe sounds good. I will ask about it. Sister-in-law did make a lovely Rode Grode (can't spell it)

natural fruits of the forest, for sweet at her son's wedding. She also made Indian food as they like

it very much and husband is Indian. Now we are like a U.N family and we like all good food. When

they came here they liked our fish and chicken but bought their own port with them!

phylray



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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
04/06/2009 13:56

Typo error! Last but three word should read "pork!" (Freudian slip, I think!)

ROBIN HOOD


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Message Posted:
04/06/2009 21:57

Everytime we come we bring about 4 Kg of Bratwurst with us they don't last a day. Don't know any germans there yet. But the Brits have a taste for them as well.

phylray



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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
04/06/2009 23:45

Yes their sausage is good (wurst) They have a joke "nothing is vurse than wurst"