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No1Doyen


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22/05/2009 10:18

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Notorious Great Train Robber, Ronnie Biggs, has announced that he is to return the proceeds gained from the 1963 multi-million pound train heist in an attempt to restore public confidence in the once honourable criminal classes. Biggs, currently serving a sentence in Norwich prison after returning to the UK in 2001, has described the manner by which he came into the money as ‘an honest mistake’, and has called for a change in the rules which are making morally-upright criminals look like money-grabbing cheats.

‘I didn’t realise I was doing anything wrong,’ said the ailing 79-year-old today in a prepared statement. ‘The train stopped and everyone just jumped on the wagon, so I assumed it was totally on the level. But I tell you, as soon as I checked the law some 36 years later and found that I may have been in the wrong, I couldn’t have been more embarrassed. Continued....



No1Doyen


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I turned myself in straight away. I just hope that by giving the money back now it’s not too late to change the public’s opinion of me.’

After initially being convicted for the Great Train Robbery in what he thought was a gross miscarriage of justice, Biggs escaped from prison in 1965 and remained on the run until he discovered his mistake in 2001. Although he insists that at the time of the robbery he stuck to the gang’s rules 100%, he has admitted that he felt ‘uncomfortable’ claiming so much money. And he has now called for a complete overhaul of the system which forced him to acquire second, third and fourth homes in different countries just to avoid being apprehended by the police and returned to prison..



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No1Doyen


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Yet despite getting his comeuppance, Biggs remains nostalgic for a time when robbers had standards. ‘There was a time when being a criminal meant something, when you were looked up to by the community,’ he lamented today. ‘But this modern generation of criminals is completely lacking in moral fibre. They’ll take anything, and it’s decent everyday people who are left to foot the bill..’

Now in declining health, Biggs is hopeful that he will soon be granted early release in anticipation of a surge in demand for prison places. ‘But if not, I ain’t sharing my cell with no thief,’ he spat today.



kaiserphil


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22/05/2009 10:23

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Ah, bless him! Off to the House of Lords for Ronnie.



Sunnycee


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an honest mistake?

have'nt we been hearing that a lot this week ? hope he doesnt think its tax deductable

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The-Wicks


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22/05/2009 10:28

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He is probably surrounded by more "Honest" people now, than on a trip to the Hose of Commons.

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The-Wicks


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He is probably surrounded by more "Honest" people now, than on a trip to the House of Commons.



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sorry about typo on 1st attempt



rigsby


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22/05/2009 10:42

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Dont forget that someone died,One of the crew on the train passed away after receiving head injuries.I think it was more than a year and a day after the robbery so could not be classed as murder.



No1Doyen


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Surely, if he gives the money back it will be in old notes and therefore not legal tender.



Woodspeckie


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22/05/2009 17:52

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He should have been in a prison surrounded by a moat with a floating duck house.



MimoMar


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22/05/2009 17:55

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At least he didn't rob the gravy train.....that wouldn't have been allowed!



decanddyl


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22/05/2009 19:29

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will he be paying back the interest ??



Arthur


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22/05/2009 19:50

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I'm not disputing that the unfortunate railwayman died, but I think it's appalling that Biggs got 30 years when the scum that killed baby Peter [including the beast who raped a baby], potentially could be out in less. Potentially his "mother" [if that's the right word in this case] could be out in five years.



No1Doyen


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Arthur. 100% with you on that.



ilovekibris


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22/05/2009 23:11

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i think a few ppl are in the hook, line and sinker category here.



harita


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22/05/2009 23:44

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Message 12 ... will he be paying back the interest ??

If he takes a page out of HSBC's book ... He could keep 50% of the money for looking after it for 45 years ..



Lilli



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22/05/2009 23:51

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You are all so right . What is that money worth today. As for baby P mother if she could be called that. now lock her way and throw away the key. In comparrision Mr biggs was an HONEST ROBBER? That woman in comparsion well let them deal with her and the bloody social worker who sancitioned it xx



rigsby


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23/05/2009 12:19

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Lilli,Baby P had lots of social visits,they were all !£$%^ Lets hope that the other prisoners deal with all of them.Mother??



Brinsley


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No1Doyen



In nick in Norwich?



Acronym:- Nickers off ready when I come home!



Richard



Coachie



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23/05/2009 14:07

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Sorry, but the man was a hoodlum,end of story.He will probably make more than he stole when he sells his story to The Daily Telegraph. 30 year sentance,then 30 years he should serve.That goes for all criminals,what they get is what they should do...



No1Doyen


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Richard. "it's a fair cop guv"



rigsby


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I am with coachie 100% on this one



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