Mother 'in freezer for 20 years'

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 13:59

Officers interviewed Daulat Irani, 83, under caution after the grim discovery at the property in Sidcup, south-east London.



It is understood the body was formally identified as that of her mother Gulbai Freedoon Murzan, who was born in 1901.



Officers believe she could have been dead for up to 20 years. Her death is currently being treated as unexplained rather than suspicious, the Metropolitan Police said.





Post-mortem examination results are expected later this week.



Officers were initially called to the property in Park Mead on May 20 after being alerted by a neighbour. Forensic officers moved in to remove the well-preserved corpse.



Ray Dyson, 77, who lives nearby, said Ms Irani was a "nice old lady" who went quietly about her business.

Trudy


Joined: 25/05/2009
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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 14:05

What did the neighbout alert them of? And im not suprised she went quietly about her business, hardly gonna shout that she is keeping her frozen mother in her house from the rooftops is she!! Dotty old thing, bless her!

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 14:12

Just not normal but I do not suspect any fould play here.

ismet

The-Wicks


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 14:16

Perhaps the old lady was into cryogenics? Must be cheaper keeping her old mum in a domestic freezer than paying to keep her in a laboratory.



PS My in-laws live in Sidcup!



J

sloan



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 14:18

Possibly trying to avoid funeral expenses. Wonder if her pension was still being drawn?

The-Wicks


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 14:19

sloan - if the family were drawing her pension it would make much more sense than my theory



J

Trudy


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 14:22

Haha cryogenics! Well you never know! Doing it to avoid funeral expenses seems likely though! Still, i some how feel a little sorry for her, unless of course she was lifting her pension for her haha rather than just wanting to keep her old mum close!

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 14:22

strange place to keep your mother!





mother in law, yes, but not ur mother!!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 15:00

Perhaps it was an accident. The Mother was feeling hot so she got in the freezer to cool down. Unfortunately the lid slammed on her. Mind you if her family were drawing her pension then it was the icing on the cake for them Pity the Judge won't look at like that, he'll give them a chilly reception.

Kibris


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 15:25

What make of freezer was it i wonder?.... still going strong after 20 years!!! bet its not an Arcelik!

Trudy


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 15:37

Hahaha yeah i never thought of that! Whatever make is was, it was a bloody good buy!

Blackie


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 15:56

I dont like to seem cynical on this one but I remember apeaking to a friend in the insurance business once and he said it is not uncommon for people not to declare that their nearest and dearest has died and continue to collect their pensions/benefits. One case that came to light in his own company a grandaughter was collecting her grandmothers pension for many years if her grandmother had been still alive she would have been 127 years old, seemingly a lot of companies and goverment departments do not monitor this.

bondi


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Posts: 116

Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:42

I think I remember a Steptoe and Son episode where the old man Steptoe kept drawing his deceased wife's pension. He used to dress up like an old granny each week and go to the Post Office - the fun came when he was "fancied" by a lonely male pensioner, in the post office queue, and had his derriere pinched! It was one of the best steptoe half hours I had seen following the pickled onions in the bath etc etc.



Seriously though this is really an interesting tale and as the story unwinds so the forum's postings will get extended with various comments and hypotheses on the case. Was it a chest freezer or a stand up one, if the latter did she fall out as a large iced pillar? or was she laid on the bottom of the chest freezer with the frozen vegetables and meat on top. One for the cartoonists methinks!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:59

If it was an upright freezer, what shelf was she on? Would it have been better, from a preservation point of view, to keep her on the bottom shelf?

Sunnycee


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:05

perhaps it was a walk - in freezer!

sc

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:10

Sunnycee. If it was, she certainly didn't walk out. )

eager


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:10

Maybe it was a case of.."mum's gone to iceland"

Arthur


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:48

Bloody good job there wasn't a power cut.



Otherwise Mum would have been humming as well as the freezer pump.

Trudy


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:53

Ewww hahaha!!!

phylray



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 20:35

Well, maybe, she just wanted to keep her mum about, preserved for as long as she could!

Lucky about the freezer being reliable though. Wonder what it was?

Hector


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 21:25

Could it simply have been a game of hide & seek that went on a bit too long? Coming! Ready or not!

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 22:54

I wonder if it would be in bad taste for the freezer company to use this tale in an advert for their products...? eeewww.....gives me the shivers!



DD

phylray



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 23:22

bit like the dog that swallowed a mobile left under the Christmas tree as a present.

It emerged, eventually, still working! What an advert. for that phone. co!

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
28/05/2009 00:30

Murzdan's daughter Daulat Irani, who is now 83, feared the authorities would discover that her elderly mother was living illegally.



Instead of having last rites Irani wrapped up the corpse in a black bin bag and then put in a chest freezer in the garbage.



Well that answer a few questions!

gillken


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 00:47

Man 'kept dead mother in freezer'

A man engaged in a stand-off with police in the US state of Wisconsin told officers he had the body of his mother in his freezer.

When police gained entry, they found a body, encased in ice, frozen in a sitting position.

Philip Schuth, 52, told police he had been collecting his elderly mother's pension since she died in 2000, according to court documents.

He denied killing her, saying she had died of natural causes.

He said there were traces of his mother's blood on the walls because she had been scratched by a cat years before.

He said he feared police would suspect he had killed her, so he kept her death a secret.

Neighbours said Mr Schuth and his mother had doted on each other, and that he had been picked on since school because of their close relationship.

Police had gone to his home in the town of Campbell, on an island in the Mississippi river, on an unrelated matter.

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 03:11

The big freeze, another option other than the box embalm or the big burn.

And very much cheeper.

keithr


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 09:03

Her pension had been frozen....