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karakum5c


Joined: 18/03/2008 Posts: 1021
Message Posted: 03/06/2009 23:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 16 in Discussion |
| What will happen if the BNP out poll the Labour Party in the Euro elections ? Will Gordon Brown still soldier on like Adolf Hitler in his bunker giving orders while no one listens any more. |
andy-f

Joined: 03/05/2009 Posts: 1256
Message Posted: 03/06/2009 23:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 16 in Discussion |
| labours finished, browns a dead man walking , the bnp and ukip will make gains in the euro elections but come the next general election it will be a tory landslide. . . thank god |
greylag

Joined: 08/04/2009 Posts: 1110
Message Posted: 03/06/2009 23:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 16 in Discussion |
| "TORY LANDSLIDE" people have very short memories 16 years of prosper under the labour party, G. |
Moover321

Joined: 11/04/2009 Posts: 649
Message Posted: 03/06/2009 23:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 16 in Discussion |
| Yeah and I recall the wonderful 1980's and 1990's under the Tory government! Just swap one group of idiots for another group of idiots! And never forget - New Labour under Blair was just a Tory government in Labour clothing! They sucked up to big business and built the bankers their fortune! I believe that the only reason why the BNP will never come to power in any meaningful sense is that the vast majority of British people regardless of their circumstances are too decent to allow a group of facist and racist thugs govern such a great nation! |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 03/06/2009 23:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 16 in Discussion |
| Re msg 4, Moover321 > the vast majority of British people regardless of their circumstances are too decent to allow a group of facist and racist thugs govern such a great nation! < => Hmm. Reading this thread I wouldn't bet on it, Moover... But, we'll find out the trend for the next years after tomorrow... |
karakum5c


Joined: 18/03/2008 Posts: 1021
Message Posted: 03/06/2009 23:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 16 in Discussion |
| Hitler came to power on the back of economic hardship and disenchantment in the political classes, sound familiar ? |
Moover321

Joined: 11/04/2009 Posts: 649
Message Posted: 04/06/2009 00:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 16 in Discussion |
| You guys have a point - but there is one difference - we have a 24 hour news cycle and we have an open media through the Internet! I also think that this economic downturn may (operative word may) not be as deep or as profound as people imagine it to be! This time around there has been concerted action worldwide and that may also be the lagacy of Gordon Bown! I do agree that in the short term we may see an upturn in the vote for extremist parties or one platform parties but that will happen across the EU. There is a definitive shift to the right - but once the economic cycle turns it will hopefully revert! Let's wait and see! |
Moover321

Joined: 11/04/2009 Posts: 649
Message Posted: 04/06/2009 00:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 16 in Discussion |
| P.S. "Open media" is a relative term to the 1930's |
phylray


Joined: 21/09/2007 Posts: 1727
Message Posted: 04/06/2009 01:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 16 in Discussion |
| It is a very stupid comparison, as Germany of the 30's was a very different country, and conditions. To compare Brown with Hitler is just disgusting. He is a good man, and I think he may survive this vicious onslaught. If he doesn't we'll vote SNP! |
AlsancakJack


Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 04/06/2009 01:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 16 in Discussion |
| Moover Message 7 ' I also think that this economic downturn may (operative word may) not be as deep or as profound as people imagine it to be!' You are joking my friend, the economic indicators are unemployment and house repossessions and once those bottom out then the long hard climb begins. They are nowhere near bottoming out as of yet. AJ |
kavenkoy

Joined: 10/04/2008 Posts: 1787
Message Posted: 04/06/2009 07:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 16 in Discussion |
| message 4 "I believe that the only reason why the BNP will never come to power in any meaningful sense is that the vast majority of British people regardless of their circumstances are too decent to allow a group of facist and racist thugs govern such a great nation! " such a great nation ??? we have allowed every nationallity to come to the shores ,legally and illeaglly . even illeagally we dont send them back ,we allow decent tax payers to pay for them for 5 years or more in holding tanks until their case is heard . a lawless society is more what we live in now in the uk ,where decent family men get killed on their door steps for trying to get drunken kids to stop terrorising neighbourhoods .WHY .... because our police are less and less and have no powers . we are becoming a mongrel race ,so face facts a change towards any nationalist party will be good . yes i vote BNP and have done for 10 years ,no im not racist thug i have my beliefs about my country kav |
Moover321

Joined: 11/04/2009 Posts: 649
Message Posted: 04/06/2009 07:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 16 in Discussion |
| Kav! You are of course entitled to your view however misguided it may be! If you are serious that the BNP (British Nazi Party) is anything but a racist party of thugs try to read their constitution! So you want people like: Lewis Hamilton, Dame Kelly Holmes, Rio Ferdinand, Amir Khan, Sol Cambell, Ashley Cole, Nigel Benn, Frank Bruno, Joan Armatrading. Melanie Brown. Alesha, Jamelia to name a few to be sent back to their 'home' country just for being black or brown? Do me a favour - if you have been voting BNP for the last 10 years to protect white domination - you are living in a fools paradise! We are here to stay - we are here to fight - and ain't nothing you or that criminal Nick Griffin and his louts can do about it! Get used to it! And for someone who claims to be loving his country - seems you prefer to live in the TRNC? I feel sorry for you - as you seem to be living in cloud cookoo land! |
hattikins

Joined: 17/02/2008 Posts: 2793
Message Posted: 04/06/2009 08:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 16 in Discussion |
| In my opinion the reason for the rise in support for BNP is that people in Britain are frightened that they are losing their identity, many people feel that the pc brigade and the powers that be are bending over backwards to keep everyone else happy and that immigration is totally out of control. I find it odd that Scottish Nationalists are accepted without question, likewise Welsh Nationalists, but the phrase British Nationalist is immediately taken as meaning racist, so people feel they have to apologise for being British and proud of it. |
Geejay

Joined: 18/04/2009 Posts: 475
Message Posted: 04/06/2009 08:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 16 in Discussion |
| Well said hattikins. We're now being marginalised for being British or English, Christian or Caucasian. As for the BNP, I hold no regard for them. I will be voting UKIP as the only party that defends the British "identity" . |
AlsancakJack


Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 04/06/2009 08:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 16 in Discussion |
| Not quite sure why we need 3 different threads for the same subject. |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 04/06/2009 08:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 16 in Discussion |
| This thread is now closed.
Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts. |
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