CAPPING of kids for people living off the state !

palacerclass


Joined: 19/11/2008
Posts: 109

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 16:27

Why doesnt this current government and future goverment introduce a new policy on restricting the number of kids for those people who rely on the state to keep them. The government is acting as a insurance policy for peoples mistakes.More kids you have the more money you get.No wonder you get not only the brits taking advantage but those immigrants coming in as well.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 17:29

Its a good idea in principle but how would they stop them. I cant beleive tat the eastern european immigrants can claim family allowence on thier children left behind in thier own country. How is this possible x

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 17:38

Thats why asylum seekers flock here, good benefits system.

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 17:39

Yeah great idea, lets neuter them eh !!!!

booitsme


Joined: 04/02/2009
Posts: 667

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 17:49

As someone who chose not to have children and has never had any benefit it does annoy me that the government are quite happy to give out limitless money to those who choose breeding over work. How about giving childrens allowance for the 1st one, then a minimum payment for the 2nd then none after that. I used to work in a pharmacy that gave out medication to couples having IVF and it used to sicken me that people who had never supported themselves in their lives (and were proud of it) got all the help and medication for free Tell me, if you can't support yourself, how can you support a child? How about a government that supports honest, hard working people who save and look after themselves and their own - with or without children???

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 17:51

Hi Lilli,



This is true that eastern european migrants can claim family allowance for children left at home. I know this because we have had several of them working on our property and they tell me this is true. They are extremely hard workers and the majority of them come here to work hard, to give their families a better life. Most of them return home after 5 years with enough money to buy a home but they are replaced with their cousin or younger brother. I have also read that they can claim family credits and why not if they are paying their taxes? It is the migrants who come and have no intention of working but just scrounge off the state. As I live in London I have seen them all and I cannot wait to move permenantly to the TRNC, where I feel both safe

and welcome.



The butlers wife

japeal



Joined: 12/09/2008
Posts: 1052

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 17:54

Why does the govt not justissue food/clothing vouchers, non exchangable for ex to tesco/asda. That way kids get food money not wasted eslewhere, also no money for children not residing in country with parents!

bogeyman


Joined: 04/06/2009
Posts: 175

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 18:04

nice to see you being loyal to brittish workers butler

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 18:08

lilli wrote: "I cant beleive tat the eastern european immigrants can claim family allowence on thier children left behind in thier own country. How is this possible x"

Because British citizens claim the same benefits for their families when they are living or working in other EU countries. In some cases the benefits are more generous than those in the UK. But don't expect to the Sun, Express or Daily Mail to tell you that.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 18:13

At the supermarket where i worked asylum seekers used to come in with their vouchers, but buy a 30p bar of chocolate, pay with a £10 voucher and we had to give them the change in cash.

They also used the vouchers to buy cigarettes, always in packets of 10, which they would sell on to under age kids and get cash that way.

Head office queried these practices with the DSS but was told nothing could be done.

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 18:28

Must make them all a bunch of spongers then, eh Bruce?

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 19:34

Hi bogeyman,



Having worked hard all my life and all over the world, I give credit where credit is due. Unfortunately the work ethic of a lot of British workers leaves a lot to be desired. My husband as the name suggests is a butler and he has to often work 18 hour days and sometimes for a month without having a day off. How many young british people today would do that? Please don't criticise me for voicing my opinion, as I am as entitled as you to have one.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 21:23

msg 9, I think the point here is about the scroungers taking averything they get and not doing anything to deserve it. You are probably right about it happening in other EU countries but that doesn't make it correct.

Think about the context of the subject and please stop finding any bloody excuse to attack the brits, we might well be a bunch of whingers as I think you are trying to point out but if its a valid point why attack us.

Do you pay taxes, do you feel happy that people will not work to support their families because the government gives them everything for free and I am not just talking about the immigrants but it would be a good start to stop the immigrants and then start on the locals.

jesusjon



Joined: 03/08/2008
Posts: 93

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 22:57

Msg 12 the butler, agree with you entirely have employed british workers for years still do but 18months ago employed a polish lad was getting fed up with phone calls mon morning had a dodgy burger last night got the s###s same old thing any excuse and dont start on the cheap eu labour thing because he gets paid exactly the same as the other workers and always wants to work over or sundays they just want to work and get on.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
10/06/2009 23:34

Hi ilovekibris. I did not know about the EU scheme. I only found out today when my friend who has moved here was told she could no longer claim family allowance for her children living here.