North Cyprus ‘One of the most secure countries”

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 01:41

http://www.starkibris.net/international/index.asp?haberID=2679

scabro


Joined: 14/06/2009
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 06:22

Is it really that secure country?

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 06:47

Sounds good to me.

catalkoykid


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Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 07:06

No1Doyen bill the gaurantee is back

keithr


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 720

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 08:01

Well,now we can all rest easy can't we ????



LIKE HELL...

watchdog


Joined: 14/06/2009
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 10:42

Our homes may be secure in TRNC but its our other owned properties in UK that they are going for? How safe are they? and so the arguments rumble on regarding property status.

killy45


Joined: 07/06/2009
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 11:46

life is to short don't worry be happy

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 12:46

* Avci: “All British residents should know that their properties are under the guarantee of the State, and they should know they have invested in one of the most secure countries.”



Under the guarantee of the TRNC? That is probably the last thing any sensible investor wants to hear, given that UN-mediated talks are currently proposing to create a completely new state in Cyprus.

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 12:48

"Voting rights for diaspora



Turgay Avci also put forward his views in relation to the affording of voting rights to the Turkish Cypriot diaspora abroad. Avci said they had pledged that they would assign two seats in the Parliament, to represent the Turkish Cypriot diaspora."



What kind of "state" gives the vote to people who don't even live there? A Mickey Mouse state. No wonder the Turkish Cypriots are a minority in their own country.

Magbs


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 14:32

Re msg 9



Q."What kind of "state" gives the vote to people who don't even live there?"



A. USA, Russia, Canada etc...The only question is whether they are citizens or not.

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 15:51

msge 8



Switzerland

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 17:20

we will be fine , relax , enjoy the summer .

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 18:29

Watchdog

Our homes may be secure in TRNC but its our other owned properties in UK that they are going for? How safe are they? and so the arguments rumble on regarding property status.





Someone whos not burying the head in the sand and sees the reality of the situation. who lied to you an estate agent? a laywer? a devoleper. or was it just the price compared to the south dont tell me you bought exchange land.

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 18:39

harry,



you seem to be campaigning ... or are these your personal views only?



in one of your earlier postings you stated "I am not interested in politics"



if you are not, purchasing in north cyprus it should be a practical decision



based purely on the appeal of beautiful north cyprus and it's guarantees



if you are, then you will fully appreciate the complexity of the situation



and the well-known arguments of each side to the dispute

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 18:46

harryroberts, what did you buy ? and why would you worry about property owned in the uk ??

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 20:33

rowlo

Dont be naughty.



Harry is not worried , He is just thinks, from a South Cyprus perspective that we should be worried,and is telling us just so we dont get complacent. Its a view, not necessarily a fact.

His view from the south might not marry up with our view in the north but he has a right to keep trying to drive the message home

It doesnt mean you have to be worried, after all, I might tell you that the world will end next year.

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 20:41

harry seems to be having trouble deciding whether he's just an ordinary joe,



or whether he is hoping to make some serious political and moralistic statement



from his side of the equation that is unfortunate:



it's the desperation that comes across and not the undoubted quality of his case

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 21:31

just for you harryroberts , FACT , you tried to murder tcs , so whats your point ????????

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 23:25

Msg 18,

Accusing a fellow member of attempted murder?

Is it angst, my pet, or too much lager?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 00:06

many of these south doom merchants cant stand the thought that thousands of brits ( and other EU citizens) have what they see as bought lovely holliday homes at a fraction of the price that they have paid in the south on what they deem stolen land and look like getting away with it!



long live turkish cyprus

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 00:15

Pikey you are such a pompous pratt

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 00:45

just for you harryroberts , FACT , you tried to murder tcs , so whats your point ????????



fiction

what a stupid assumption your accusing me of attempted murder just because i have a different opinion from you



are you mentally disturbed



i think i deserve an apollogy

cypwine


Joined: 09/05/2009
Posts: 177

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 00:55

msg 20



your welcome to your holiday home we so called doom merchants have worked hard for our permanent homes in the south and cant wait for the day we get back what is rightfully ours!



nice to see you actually agree you live on stolen lands for once!! (your words are quite correct!)

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 01:04

I would like to focus our minds on Paphos.



Prior to 1974 there was a large number of Turkish Cypriots living in Paphos, I visited there last year and had not seen the place for 7 years and I was amazed how the place had changed.

It was twice the size since my last visit and when you looked around there was very little land left in the immeadiate area for development.



My question is who has developed the TC land area's and more importantly who gave permission to develope this land ..........I understood it to be illegal to do this ?

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 01:05

Rules



3. Be Polite

We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously. We do not tolerate any rudeness. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning



acusing me of attempted murder i find unpleasent

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 09:32

hello harry,



I can see your point about rowlo accusting you of attempted murder

and apparently breaking rule 3

without knowing anything much of you or your activities,

probably quite innocent



but it is most likely he was referring to the greek cypriots en masse,

prior to the 1974 peace operation, since "you" can refer to multiple individuals



what is noteworthy are the number of members breaking rule 5,

ie questioning the legality of the trnc

and I wonder how closely you feel that rule should be adhered to?

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 12:40

cypwine message 23

Brits leaving the property in trnc does not mean you are going to get it back.Many obstacles can be put in the way .



If, as you think,you have won, would it not help the GC's to get their property back physically if you lot had promoted an attitude of "sorry it had to end like this ,but you lot shouldnt have bought there in the first place." instead of the insults. That leads me to think you dont actually want the land back ,just to get the occupiers out.

The malice shown encourages people to be as awkward as possible in finding ways to prevent the GC gaining occupancy,by handing the land over to TC while the TRNC is as, or use the courts against ROC, TRNC or anyone that will delay things for the next 10 years.

I wouldnt bother about my children inheriting property in TRNC if I was you.Read the latest climate change predictions for the Medi. Put it this way ,within the next 15 years, property in much of the Medi will be worthless.

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 12:45

i have never questioned the legality of the trnc because of the forum rules which i read before joining.



i think rules are rules and if you dont like the rules dont join the forum.



if he was refering to the greek cypriots on mass then he should have said that.He was getting at me personally because i have different views than him on property issues.



if i am breaking the rules by disagreeing with people on this forum then ban me.



however i would still expect him to withdraw the accusation against me personally.and appologise which is the least he can do im sure if i accused him of the same thing i would be banned.

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 12:48

rowlo



Dont be naughty.



Harry is not worried , He is just thinks, from a South Cyprus perspective that we should be worried,and is telling us just so we dont get complacent. Its a view, not necessarily a fact.



His view from the south might not marry up with our view in the north but he has a right to keep trying to drive the message home



It doesnt mean you have to be worried, after all, I might tell you that the world will end next year.







thank you exactly Its a view,

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 13:14

Dear Andre_514



re the breaking of rule 5



Just to remind you - when I joined I raised the point that it is hard to discuss the CY problem without pointing out the facts.. just to remind you the title of the thread was "should I resign"..?





It sort of makes me wonder has "HarryRoberts" got you foxed... so you "suggest" a rule infringment to "silence" him...?!

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 13:55

Andre

are you accusing me of breaking rule 5?

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 14:55

a number of members are clearly taking advantage of our goodwill on the legality question mark



although as you may suggest it is sometimes a question of pointing out (selected) "facts"



although to misquote price charles "whatever "facts" means"



of course there are undisputed "facts" such as cyprus is presently divided



while there are "opinions" supported by certain data that cyprus will remain partitioned



I never invited you to resign although it seems clear your attitude to to north cyprus is negative





"harry roberts" since nobody accused you personally of breaking rule 5,



therefore I can only assume you do fully accept the legality of the trnc as a condition of '44 membership

jay76


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 532

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 16:11

shhhweeeeeet

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 16:39

andre



i think you are trying to make out that i am the one who has broken rules



rule 5 says members are not allowed to question the legality of the trnc it does not say anything about accepting the legality of the trnc.



however rule 3 says

3. Be Polite



We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously. We do not tolerate any rudeness. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning



Rowlo Says



Harryroberts Fact you attempted to murder Tcs



is that not clear cut.

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 19:48

A strangely moderator-free zone here. Some can behave like thugs with inpunity. Nice to know the calibre of certain people - what say you, AJ?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 20:01

I see our old friends are back with the usual claptrap, they really are better being ignored. It says a lot about some of these people when they even have to try to turn an appeal for blood donors into a north/south issue by slating the military, never miss a chance do you folks, it,s sad really.

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 20:03

Sorry i was'nt following the topic , but i can see where its heading !

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 20:03

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