good maintainence companys

nico44


Joined: 21/05/2009
Posts: 99

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 16:53

Hi can any one reccomend a good maintainence company that is reliable and not to costly please

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 17:18

Hi Nico44 , if you scroll down to the bottom of the topic page and click on maintainance , you will find all the info you need and more

Good luck , Simbas

nico44


Joined: 21/05/2009
Posts: 99

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 17:25

thanks simba

biglugs


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 157

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 17:39

Try Unwins,they are really really really good !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have photos of our pool if anyone wants to see them

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 17:44

If I were you I would not go with one of the big companys too expensive better to ask around and one of your neighbours might be willing to take it on. Which area do you live and I may be able to help.

Chris

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 17:50

A lot also depends on whether you are asking them to maintain a single individual villa, or a large communal complex as there's a big difference in not only the work that this entails for the management company but also in the profits they can make. If they are allowed to get away with it the sky's the limit as they say. As someone else said, if you are on a communal complex and the MC are employing staff and maintaining plant & machinery on your behalf then go for a 'fund under management' system as this makes the MC totally accountable. If you have a total fee based system they can be tempted to do the bare minimum to maintain the site in order to maximize their profits.

nico44


Joined: 21/05/2009
Posts: 99

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 17:54

Hi Chris its 2 blocks 11 apartments in all with a pool in Alsansak our builder has more or less run off and we need to connect the meter for the pool and communal areas ( lights) then have a maintenance contract for pool cleaning and grounds plus communal areas to be honest not sure which way to turn so if you can help in anyway that would be great thanks nico

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 19:04

nico44

put it out to tender , do it properley , get a written contract , also these companies will tell you if they can sort out yor problem with the electricity , let us know how you get on !!!!!

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
16/06/2009 12:35

Nico 44 e-mail me with your telephone number. Don't put it on the forum!

Chris

georgenteo


Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
16/06/2009 14:42

Hi Nick

Just replying concerning your advert concerning the 11 apartments , swimming pool, garden and communal areas , would really love to quote you on the above mentioned on inspection of the site , please contact me back if you are still interested

Best Wishes

George.

Chazza


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
16/06/2009 16:12

Hello Nico44



I would like to introduce you to our company, Partners Abroad; we have offices in Kervansaray, opposite the beach, and in the U.K (London). We have recently taken over the management/maintenance of a couple of sites in Esentepe, we are currently erecting signs at one of the sites opposite Turtle Bay complex, and the site is called Vasilia View.

We are looking for new developments to manage in and around the Kyrenia,Alsancak and Lapta areas. We have personal bad experiences of poorly run, badly managed sites and our team in Cyprus and the U.K offer a service second to none. Please take time to look through our website: http://www.partnersabroad.com/site/home/management.php



Please contact me in the U.K or if you prefer contact Halil in Cyprus on 0533 830 8617



Look forward to hearing from you

essexboy


Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
16/06/2009 19:45

i can recomend a maintenance company that services the complex where i have an aprtment in girne.they are reliable and reasonable. its, HMS. 05338404312. and ask for steve or paul.. and no im not steve or paul.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
16/06/2009 20:09

Chazza,



May I ask how you structure the finances for complex management? Do you charge a total 'fee' and within that fee, run the site and pay for ALL the costs associated with that site keeping any profits left over?



Or do you charge a set 'management fee', with the monies remaining belonging to the owners of which you administer on their behalf, with any monies left at year end going back to owners?



I await your reply



Cheers

LynxLtd


Joined: 24/04/2009
Posts: 46

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 00:14

We would be very happy to assist you in securing your electric connections and a proposal to manage your site- we have a site under management in the Alsancak area. For further info please contact Jackie at Lynx at 0392-8160314 skype: lynxco_ or email info@lynxco.com http://www.lynxcyprus.com

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 12:37

FCC, First Consult Cyprus, have recently been appointed to manage our development in Esentepe.

During my recent visit there they were extremely helpful. I had a few problems with power and water as did a few others. They were there, on time and with minimum fuss sorted out the problems.

With the recent burglaries’ they also held out a helping hand with translations and interpretations.

They have inherited quite a few other niggles and are dealing with them professionally.

The common shared areas that were in need of tidying have been started and a controlled and constructive approach has been taken to work systematically through each area.

FCC office is easy to find and the staff are courteous and always available.

Their charges are more or less in line with other management companies.

So far I would recommend anyone to consider FCC.



Chegwin

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 15:20

Good positive feedback Chegwin , thanks !!!!!!





Strange there are not more !!!!

Chazza


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 15:38

Hello Millzer



Once we have visited a site and worked out the costs to maintain the site, we would set a fee that would be charged to all owners. The fee would be to manage the site and pay for all costs associated with the maintenance and yes, out of that fee we would hope to make a profit.



As a company we are conscious that there has to be an element of trust in the management company employed and we would do our very best to ensure that on any site that we manage, the owners do get value for money.



We do also offer a facility where owners pay extra into a fund, which we manage, this fund is used to purchase extras for the site and pay for improvements to the site. As we are in contact with all owners on any site that we manage, it obviously makes sense for us to administer this.



Thanks for your enquiry



Charlie



Partners Abroad

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 15:59

IN that case I would NOT employ you if I required a MC and my reason why are as follows:-



I would expect your Fee to run site to be just that a fee for running the site ! not for you to make a profit from



any surplus money should be placed in a high interest and used for improvements to the site - not to make a profit from for MC



- your PROFITS should come from extra services cleaning keyholding etc and NOT from the fee set and charged to the owners-



WHY



because you could cut corners and services to maximum the amount left over to make YOU maximum profit -the site woudl not benefit from cost savings only you as the MC would benefit



(there will be no trust from outset if that is your inetention) IMO



THAT is what is so wrong with many MC on the island I am afraid to say -

Chazza


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 16:41

Sienna



I would have to disagree



I would be more worried if a company agreed to manage the site and not make any money, or “appear” not to make any money.



We are offering a full range of services and employ a large team of staff to do this, are you saying we should offer this free?



I would agree that a lot of M.C’s at the moment do offer a very poor service; they do cut corners and only look to make large profits from an often-trapped customer base, which is why I mentioned that there has to be an element of trust in any company you intend to employ. We clearly outline what services we provide from the beginning and will be available at all times to answer any concerns or queries that our customers may have.



We intend to be around in Cyprus for the long term, we are happy for potential clients to visit our sites and us.



The sites we manage will be run properly, there will be no “corners cut “



Charlie



Partners Abroad

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 16:43

Bang on the button again Sienna , totaly agree .

Pipie


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Message Posted:
17/06/2009 17:10

Charlie .



Please could you E-mail me abkellis hotmail.com cheers

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 17:13

Message 19



I would be very wary of a company that wants to make a profit from maintenance payments



I am not asking you to give a free service - you very clearly do not understand



> you would get a fee (salary ) to run the site

> a gardener would get paid his salary

> a cleaner would get paid a salary (if a cleaner for the site was required)

> the pool maintenance guys would get paid to clean the pool

> the utilities would get paid from the maintenance fund



I would not expect after these payments that you would take what is left - your profit as said comes from being allowed to offer extra servcies on the complex + your salary.



as in Message 15 FCC run in this way very effectively ( as do some other companies) - all money left is injected back into the site as it should be

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 19:59

Message 19. "I would agree that a lot of M.C’s at the moment do offer a very poor service; they do cut corners and only look to make large profits from an often-trapped customer base, which is why I mentioned that there has to be an element of trust in any company you intend to employ. We clearly outline what services we provide from the beginning and will be available at all times to answer any concerns or queries that our customers may have."



Charlie, you've just confirmed the very point people are making, that owners get charged an all in fee and then the MC cuts corners so that the site gets just the bare minumum done in order for the MC to take the most profit! You say an element of 'trust' is needed, but why should people trust you over anyone else. After all, they've put their trust in people before and ended up being ripped off. I'm sorry to say that whenever you are asking owners to pay a total fee there will always be the question of how much profit you want to make.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 20:19

Cont'd. People are fast 'wising up' about how much things cost when it comes to running a site. I would agree that a business has to make money, but the way some of them are run its a licence to print money. we have witnessed site's being taken over by MC's and especially when it's a brand new site, it's like handing them a pot of gold. Owners have a 101 things to buy for their properties and the MC's add on their bit for EVERYTHING, from car hire to sunbeds, then all of a sudden shiny posh cars turn up, so it doesn't take an Einstein to know where the money came from. As I said, no-one begrudges a profit, but how much profit exactly do you want to make, 5K, 10K, 50K, is there a ceiling on the top line (profit)



I am not casting these aspertions on you Charlie, but speak from experience of others, maybe you will be one of the few exceptions to the rule.

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 20:32

Hi all,



I think the more people come to realise and learn about fund managed sites, this will be what they will look for in a management company. Any management company who will not change and follow this path, will very soon find themselves out of business,











The butlers wife

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 20:53

And that is happening right now , and not before time , so to speak !!!!

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 22:56

lets hope so butler - its greed and thinking the Brits have a bottomless pit of money - not so we are wising up

witchfinder



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 155

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 17:10

Hi Nico44, we are on your site, I was recently there sending back some e-mails, well done for starting this thread, I will e-mail the people who came and looked at the site last march when we were chasing our electric connection. Will cc in e-mails.

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 09:15

Charlie .

I have E-mailed you .