Armed Forces Day 27 June 2009

Littlenige



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 11:15

The first Armed Forces Day is 27 June 2009, and is an opportunity for the nation to show our support for the men and women who make up the Armed Forces community



http://www.armedforcesday.org.uk/

bogeyman


Joined: 04/06/2009
Posts: 175

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 11:39

well said nige we should be proud of all serving in the forces

bogeyman


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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 13:27

please leave a comment people to show you respect and care about our brave men and women

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 14:00

Best thing i ever did was join the forces and respect every single person that has, certainly taught me a few things!!

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 14:41

Anyone who volunteers to get shot at for not a lot of money (considering) deserves my respect.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 14:55

Support the Armed forces.

BigMart


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 423

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 15:12

Well said Bootneck !



Lets start a RMA branch here in TRNC, thats Royal Marine Association to you who are wondering.

Littlenige



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 18:03

back to the top

Lilli



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 18:34

I totally agree Nige. We should all show our support for the brave men and women x They have mine x

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 18:57

I know a lot of better ways to serve the(ir) country for young men/women than preparing to kill other young men/women. Whether they are British or another nationality.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 18:59

Oh, I forgot. Very few generals and other top brass die in trenches. So, who do?

Littlenige



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 19:04

well you could ask that question in Srebrenica in your best dutch accent and see where it gets you.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 19:08

RE msg 12, littlenige > well you could ask that question in Srebrenica in your best dutch accent and see where it gets you. <



=> Nige, you tried this line now for the umptieth time. Do me a favour and try to imagine something new. Suggestion: Iraq?

Littlenige



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 19:14

>>>to imagine something <<<< oh that it was imagination hans



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre



http://www.gendercide.org/case_srebrenica.html



http://images.google.com.tr/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=Srebrenica&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=RGc6Sry5McS5sgaolpjYBg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4wtBJHMdU





You come on here slight brits at every opertunity now slight british troops and their leaders go look the other way the dutch are are good at that.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 19:21

Nige, I know you were a fine butcher in your time, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to read what other people write. It's difficult, I know.



This is what I wrote: "I know a lot of better ways to serve the(ir) country for young men/women than preparing to kill other young men/women. Whether they are British or another nationality."



What is aimed at "Brits"?! Exactly. NOTHING. It's aimed at killing people.

Littlenige



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 19:29

>>> I know a lot of better ways to serve the(ir) country for young men/women than preparing to kill other young men/women. Whether they are British or another nationality. <<<

..

Off topic and just for once could you not agree that it is a fine thing to do in serving your country ?

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 19:34

DutchCrusader



Take a look at the following:-



http://www.netherlands-embassy.org.uk/government/index.php?i=92



Now get a life

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 19:37

Too many times we read about young people who want to give their blood for their country - my sympathy goes to young people who want to live for their country and use their brains for the good of their country instead of nowadays spilling their blood in foreign countries - in vain. (To make sure this not anti-Brit: *all* young people).



PS. Maybe some mothers, spouses, fiancé's and sisters will agree with me).



PPS. One doesn't serve his/her country by dying in a foreign country at +/- 20. Spoiled lives. Sad.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 19:40

RE msg17, lovingcyprus > Now get a life <



=> I'll ignore all messages by people whose regular or best contribution is "Now get a life". Or similar bottomless remarks.

Checkmate


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 140

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 20:29

Dutch Crusader



As someone who visits Holland/Netherlands very frequently, and enjoy my time there, you may want to spare a thought for the thousands of British Serviceman and woman, who paid the ultimate sacrifice to enable your country to be freed from Nazi Germany.



End of.

lovingcyprus


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Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 20:30

DutchCrusader



Some people give their lives so that others can have their freedom, I won't mention WW2

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 20:44

RE msg 20 & 21, resp. Checkmate and lovingcyprus > As someone who visits Holland/Netherlands very frequently, and enjoy my time there, you may want to spare a thought for the thousands of British Serviceman and woman, who paid the ultimate sacrifice to enable your country to be freed from Nazi Germany. <



=> The problem with some older people on this board is that too many of them keep living in the past and don't learn anything new. It's always the same: "Dutch, remember WW2". Tell my parents, not me! It's history, my dear British friends. Or should I also be deeply touched by WW1? And 1870? And Napoléon?



If you really think that armed forces are a way to the future - I think you're wrong. Young people should *live* for their country and not *die* for their country. Give the generals of the world a gun and let them fight their fine battles in Hyde Park, London. My prediction: there will not be one more war.

MimoMar


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 21:01

There are certain folk in the world whose ideology is so entrenched that (return of violence) is the only answer.



It's either that or, the mass distribution of mind altering drugs, which I think has only been tried in one place.

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 21:07

Unfortunately Dutch Armed Forces are a necessity of life and conflicts no matter how minor or major will continue to blight the world, even people who think they are doing good for the world must encounter conflict in their field at sometime or other. The British Armed Forces are amngst the best in the world and for a volunteer force very very professional. You personally start conflicts on this forum so therefore must agree with "Armed Forces" to resolve conflicts that should arise.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 21:10

RE msg 23, MimoMar > It's either that or, the mass distribution of mind altering drugs, which I think has only been tried in one place. <



=> Yeah, I read about it, Birmingham (UK). Terrible. Quite a problem there, isn't it?



I know about a country where addicts get their drugs for free. And guess what? There are no drugs gangs anymore, young addicts don't stab or shoot to kill each other. And cars are not broken in anymore. Etc. Stupid, eh?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 21:12

RE msg 24, decanddyl > You personally start conflicts on this forum so therefore must agree with "Armed Forces" to resolve conflicts that should arise. <



=> Violence is the behaviour of people who lack the capability to use words.

MimoMar


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 21:16

So there Dutch, it does work!

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
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Message Posted:
18/06/2009 21:37

Do not forget it is mainly down to politicians that Armed Forces are called to participate in conflicts and most politicians have the capability to use words so therefore your argument does not cut any ice in Msg26. Like most people in employment members of the Forces do their jobs to the best of their ability.

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 21:43

For Bigmart and Bootneck can I be an honorary member of the RMA having served with Commanda Engineers for 4 years.



Ged



PS Roll on 27th Jun all Armed Forces deserve this day.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 21:50

RE msg 28, decanddyl > Like most people in employment members of the Forces do their jobs to the best of their ability. <



=> Indeed. Did anyone in this thread doubted it? The only problem is that most employed (young) people don't have to do their best to kill other (young) people ("the enemy").



Armed forces? I - reluctantly - accept they are - unfortunately - a necessity in this nasty world. But keep them in the home country. Don't send our young men and women to countries where they have to fight and die to protect oil, gas and "higher politics".

Checkmate


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 140

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 23:39

Saturday 27th June 2009.



Armed Forces day celebrations in TRNC, I could organise something in Kings Bar Turqoiuse Bay near Esentepe. Unless anyone has a better idea.



Any takers. I know it's short notice.......However in true British Forces style.........Adapt, Improvise & Overcome!!!! You can contact me on 05338354096. Hope we can get a few people together.

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 00:11

Why do people always rise to the bait?



The lowland people have no history of warfare, only occupation and capitulation.



They don`t understand the ethos and the ties that bind us to our armed forces through our fathers and grandfathers efforts.



It`s unfortunately in our blood and all too often it is our blood that is spilt on behalf of others.



Sad but true.



Our "Lions" may be led by "Donkeys" but they fully deserve our thanks and support.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 00:28

So what you are saying is Dutch, that you don't mind a country having an armed force as long as it stays at home and doesn't fight in other countries.



Very few things have the ability to rile me but you picked one of the best. I was forces and the only fighting we found at home was with asses like you who are willing to insult people at every turn when you know nothing about the subject. Try volunteering to be shot at, blown up, killed in an auto or air accident, die of injuries sustained from chemical weapons or my favorite, slowly going nuts from the things you should never have seen and then feel free to make your comments. Until you have put more than your mouth on the line stay away from this subject please.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 08:16

hi to all.Dont mean to be horrible ,but if you love your country and its army that much,why are you all away from it?Regards

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 09:57

RE msg 33, proger1 > asses like you <



=> Sad that some regulars here cannot resist to call people names when they have a different point of view.



> Until you have put more than your mouth on the line stay away from this subject please. <



=> Fyi: I was a member of the Dutch armed forces in 1963-1964. I was almost sent to New Guinea (to fight for "the queen and Holland") but factually it was for old fashioned, pre-war Dutch colonialism. Thousands of young men died fighting there for politicians who *knew* that they were not backed up by the USA (Kennedy administration), so winning the war against Sukarno was out of the question. Was that serving the country? I was too young (19) to realise at the time, but at least I've learned a couple of things when the years past.



Sp proger1, what makes you say I'm an ass who doesn't know what he is talking about?! You and I only have different opinions and normal people are able to discuss them decently.

bogeyman


Joined: 04/06/2009
Posts: 175

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 10:43

my english pride i will not hide my english race i will not disgrace my english blood flows hot and true my english men i will stand by you, through thick and thin till the day we die. our english flags always stands so high. so raise a glass for our brave men and women on the 27th june and be proud

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 11:19

I hate to have to >>>> agree <<< with hans there is no place for name calling I have a right to my opinion hans has the right to be wrong men have given their lives for our freedom to disagree.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 11:26

Dutch, I call you an ass because it is descriptive not because I want to call you names, I can come up with much better names for someone who almost went to do something but still has the audacity to insult the honour of the people who have actually done something. I did ask you to please stay away from the subject but you still dig yourself a deeper hole by admitting you almost went. I almost had a plane crash on my flight home last week, it doesn't mean I know anything about surviving a plane crash and I don't insult the memory of those who have died in such incidents.

If you want to know the truth then actually take part in the deed. For whatever reason many people have fought and died for their country, it doesn't mean that they actually agree with the reason but it doesn't mean they deserve to be insulted because of your opinion either.

Try losing family and/or friends Dutch to a war, dispute or political argument and you will find your own reason to fight.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
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Message Posted:
19/06/2009 11:35

I give up with this Forum, Dutch insults people on a continual basis and you get upset with me for calling him and several thousand other people a name. Here is the first definition of the word I found on Google : stupid, obstinate, or perverse person —often compounded with a preceding adjective

I could have come up with several other words at the time but then I would have had to cover them with asterix's to avoid insulting someone, thats a Dutchdrusader trick so that you can come up with other words to save embarrassment afterward.

Let's just say Nige that I am insulted again by Dutch's words and have had enough of his obtuse ramblings which are only written here to insult people. To who's benefit is it to write that man and women of our armed forces (any country) should stay at home. IMO this is one opinion which he should have kept to himself.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 11:42

Ahh proger any right minded person would also be insulted by his words and centiments.



He is an intelligent person which makes it worse he knows what he is doing with some of his antagonistic posts.



It is a good job our men and women did not stay at home in ww2 or he would be wearing jack boots not clogs now !

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 11:50

proger1, calm down. I said "almost went", because in 1963-1964 there was no realistic choice in the Netherlands. You went when and where you were sent. It was the mood of the time. And although my company (the 41st pantser batallion in Ermelo) was prepared to leave for New Guinea, the Dutch government finally decided (had to decide because of heavy US pressure, like the UK had to submit to US pressure and subsequently lost its pre-war imperium) to hand over New Guinea to Sukarno (after the 1962 agreement), to pull out and to send no more troops. So. I "almost went" (had to go) but didn't have to on the last moment.



And finally, proger1: you have the right to call me an ass (descriptive or not) or any other name you can remember from your time in the forces. Freedom of speech (within the rules), eh?.



We probably lived in different cultures.

proger1



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Message Posted:
19/06/2009 11:54

I think he probably should be Nige but then you should be a little more careful about writing you agree with him.



I understand that you say he is entitled to his opinion however its the opinions of some that cause the wars we fight and die in. You might be able to get the underlying feeling that I am a little passionate about this, hence the reason I asked him to please leave the subject alone, it took a lot of will power to be as polite as I still feel I was.



I am delighted that you opened this post and also in reading the posts from members who support the whole idea.

I am most delighted to see that the RM's are even trying to organise a group for remembering fallen comrades, I spent some time with the MAWC (those who need to will know what this is). I was only a dumb squaddie but I would love the chance to swing the lanterns or pull up a sandbag with some of these guys.



WE WILL REMEMBER THEM !!!

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
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Message Posted:
19/06/2009 12:04

Dutch, first you do (as usual) your best to invoke a reaction because you like to think it makes you seem intellectually superior and then you tell me to calm down.



I did say that very few things rile me up but yet you are still trying your best, and succeeding to do so.



This post was opened to remind people who choose too, to honour the memories of those we have loved and lost.

If you disagree with the concept then by all means disagree but if you have to show it publicly then start another post, preferably in one of the multiple languages you seem to know with all correct grammar and spelling.



When people tell you to get a life it is because you seem to have nothing better to do than to irritate people on here.

You might as Nigel says be very intelligent but if you are then you obviously choose not to use the said intelligence for any other reason than to put others down.

I will do as my wife keeps telling me now and stop arguing with you, she knows me too well

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 12:23

RE msg 43, proger1 > If you disagree with the concept then by all means disagree but if you have to show it publicly then start another post <



=> You are right, I should have done that. With hindsight: I'm not sorry for my opinion, but I apologise for diverting the subject of this thread.



> I will do as my wife keeps telling me now and stop arguing with you, she knows me too well <



=> You are right again. Mrs. proger1 seems to be a smart lady. I'll take her advise also.

Checkmate


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 140

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 21:07

Any takers for a beer or 2, on the 27th June. I,m willing to travel, to meet with any honourable chaps or chapesess who wish to swing the lamp, chew the cud or enlighten the unenlighted on this most deserved day. ExRCT you up for it? As long as you go easy on the BRIMIX tales!!!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 22:51

Never had the privilege to serve, colour blind and psychotic but very proud of em.

teatime


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Posts: 852

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 23:23

Flags will be raised at 10:30 on Monday 22nd and left in place for the week till Mon 29th.

Hopefully the country will all support this and show our lads and lasses how much we appreciate what they do.

Checkmate


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Posts: 140

Message Posted:
20/06/2009 02:46

Littlenige you sure your not my old Sergeant Major????!!!! You have all the attributes. lol

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
20/06/2009 08:53

The first Armed Forces Day is 27 June 2009, and is an opportunity for the nation to show our support for the men and women who make up the Armed Forces community







http://www.armedforcesday.org.uk/



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