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settledhere


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19/06/2009 19:01

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It would have nice for other people that attended to be allowed to reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



donga


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"This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts"





what a load of crap when they put this eh - I have just been through 10 threads that you could apply this to half of them so why don't they.





Isn't this a forum ?



laptahall


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As one of the "Famous Five" who was privileged to be part of the "Sunset Sunny Lane Speech Day", I would just like to say a huge thank you to all the students and parents who gave us an opportunity to say goodbye. And to the parents who organised it. The thought of not being able to end our association with such wonderful young people was quite distressing. It was gratifying and humbling that so many took the time to be there and it is a memory which will stay with me. So, thank you, gang. You are a lovely group of people. Don't forget that. ever.



June Hall



cyprusgaz



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It is a forum, a commercial one and guess which estate agent advertises on here? Do you also know why you can't leave the forum? Because your e-mail details are for sale. Some people say good old Izzet and some know the truth!!



stegill


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19/06/2009 20:47

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Why do all the threads about Sunny Lane keep getting closed?



elko2



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Because nobody has the right to jeopardize a business by idle gossip and false accusations. Freedom of speach must not be confused with freedom to libel and slander. Libel laws apply to Bulletin Boards as well and Izzet as the owner of this BB can be in real danger.

ismet



laptahall


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Excuse me but what has all that got to do with a nice afternoon, filled with really nice young people and their parents??



Anthony


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19/06/2009 21:02

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elko2



That is very worrying. Who are you saying that izzet is in danger from?



Also, which gossip is idle and which accusations are false? Are you in a special position to decide which gossip is true and which accusatoons are true?



laptahall


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19/06/2009 21:04

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Is it me?????



Fred8


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Ismet bey



I hate to get involved in this Sunny lane/Unwin business but I believe the arquments, facts, etc when posted have to be evaluted on merit by each individual subscribing to this forum. And , as you said on another linked thread, the postings have decidedly brought you on the unwins side. I therefore can conclude far from jeopardising business the threads may do them more good than bad. As the saying goes any publicity, including bad publicity, is good publicity

best



DutchCrusader



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19/06/2009 21:19

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If you believe the gossip (or added to it), the accusations (or added to it) and the malicious postings about Sunny Lane School - subscribe your children to another school. Some children have a sad or should I say mean bunch of parents.



DutchCrusader



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19/06/2009 21:26

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Or talk to the staff (just make an appointment) or talk to the school director, Mrs. Hayran. She's offered many times to listen to and discuss "the problems" in the past couple of days. Do it or shut your face - the vendetta against Sunny Lane School is a disgrace.



* Again: I don't kinow her (Mrs. Hayran) and I've nothing to do with Unwin Estates. But I really cannot stand sneaky lynch mobs.



DutchCrusader



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19/06/2009 21:27

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Sorry, typo: kinow = know



Anthony


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19/06/2009 21:28

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DutchCrusader



Of course a true statement becomes malicious gossip when you decide it is thus. In reality you almost certainly have no first hand knowledge of the situation.



Anthony


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19/06/2009 21:30

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Point proven. You don't even know that Hayran is Mrs. Unwin. As that is the case why are you so opinionated?



DutchCrusader



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*WHO* of all the complaining people on this board (about Sunny Lane School) has accepted Mrs. Hayran's invitation to discuss the problem? WHO?



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 15, Anthony > Point proven. You don't even know that Hayran is Mrs. Unwin. <



=> Anthony, you didn't do your homework. You can find the quote below in this thread:



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/17370.asp



"I don't know Mrs. Hayran from Sunny Lane School. And I have not one experience with Unwin Estates."



So what is your point?



DutchCrusader



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*WHO* of all the complaining people on this board (about Sunny Lane School) has accepted Mrs. Hayran's invitation to discuss the problem with her or the staff? WHO?



DutchCrusader



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*WHO* of all the complaining people on this board (about Sunny Lane School) has accepted Mrs. Hayran's invitation to discuss the problem with her or the staff? WHO?



No, complaining "Member opted to hide email address". Bah.



DutchCrusader



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19/06/2009 21:55

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Deafening silence, suddenly.



Anthony


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19/06/2009 22:30

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Some of us do have other things to do. Your ignorance knows no limits.



Stubs


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19/06/2009 22:31

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Hans



I agree with your msg 11.



Many people come on here and slag off a school even though they have no children whom attend it. Iddle gossip and tittle tattle get reported anonymously as fact.



What I will say in Hayrans defence is that she comes on here, posts under her own name and offers people the opportunity of making an appointment with her, Mark or one of the other members of the management. This in itself is not very common of some business in the TRNC who get bad publicity on this and other bbs.



Aussie


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20/06/2009 00:08

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Some of the rumours about the Unwins and Sunny Lane School especially false rumours of it closing definitely go too far, However the teacher departures are a matter of record and public interest warranting legitimate discussion.



Even before this round of resignations/ dismissals there were a lot of ex Sunny lane staff who were complaining of not being treated well or paid appropriate amounts on leaving. You can accept in some cases this may be due to disgruntled staff getting back at there ex employer, but given the commonality of complaints and numbers of such staff you can only draw the conclusion that there is some substance to this.



In my experience how an organisation or business treats its staff on departure is one of the best indicators of its business ethics and says a lot about it generally. Very good organisations are spoken of highly by the majority of their ex employees.



Aussie



Yellowbelly


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Message Posted:
20/06/2009 06:39

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elko2 wrote: 'Because nobody has the right to jeopardize a business by idle gossip and false accusations. Freedom of speach must not be confused with freedom to libel and slander. Libel laws apply to Bulletin Boards as well and Izzet as the owner of this BB can be in real danger'



That's a very hyocritical statement ... with all the wild gossip, slander, libel and personal insults about various businesses (including the one I work for) I have seen on this Forum then surely, if you are right, the whole Forum should be closed. Certainly in England it would have been with huge amounts of compensation paid out.



Or is it one rule for one....?



Littlenige



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20/06/2009 07:28

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Or is it one rule for one....?



please see rule 4



4. Respect The Forum Admins

Forum admins have the final word. If you have a problem or a complaint, email Izzet off board. Do not post it on the board.

Forum admins do not need to explain their actions. Do not complain about this.



This is a comercial forum and no criticism of advertisers can be permitted !!



AlsancakJack



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20/06/2009 10:33

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No advertising on your board then Nige?



Pierced


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20/06/2009 10:42

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I do not think its the actual advertising that bothers people that much, its the fact that they now seem to be able to control which posts stay and which posts go, just because they pay for advertising on the board.



AlsancakJack



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Pierced

Please explain to all of us how you would run a 'commercial' board.



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 26, AJ > No advertising on your board then Nige? <



Off topic and I may even be banned from Nigel's BB for this, but: ha-ha, AJ! Nice one!



Back to topic: Sunny Lane teachers meeting 2



Pierced


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AJ -



Rule 1 - Do not let advertising control the content of the board



Harold2555



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Ladies and Gentlemen



To the best of my knowledge the fact that Unwins or any other firm are an advertiser on the board has never been a problem with regard to moderating posts critical of them or for that matter Sunny Lane. There has been no such edict or policy either imposed by Izzet or agreed by his unpaid moderators.



With regard to Sunny Lane threads, the circumstances and events surrounding the latest Cause Celebre are at best shall we say disputed and at worse possibly litigious.



Operating in this environment is extremely difficult, particularly as for many the true facts are not known. What is perfectly acceptable discussion over a coffee or a beer with friends is not suitable for a bulletin board I am afraid.



We the mods and Izzet are trying to be as light handed as possible, but ask for your forbearance in the circumstances.





Harold2555



DutchCrusader



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Re msg 31, Harold2555 > unpaid moderators <



=> Now you mention it, there is this rumour...



Harold2555



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Hans



Shh



Brown paper envelopes don't count.



Harold



elko2



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Msg. 31



Harold,

Very well put.

ismet



Harold2555



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Ismet bey



Thank you, I now await the accusations of havig taken sides!



Harold



Littlenige



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Harold 100 % respect at last



"We the mods and Izzet are trying to be as light handed as possible, but ask for your forbearance in the circumstances. "



AlsancakJack



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Nige

Google ads

First of all sign up to Google Ads

Second, promote your board as much as possible (tread on everyone else's feet in the process but don't worry because increased click through's will earn money.)

Simple.



ilovekibris


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20/06/2009 15:43

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DC wrote: "But I really cannot stand sneaky lynch mobs"

Eric Seans thought the same and no doubt that's why he had to keep changing nicknames. ;)



cyprusairsoft



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23/06/2009 15:33

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basically you cant post anything then as most things start at the coffe and beer stage and then progress to the forum



what ever happened to freedom of speech and as i pay 6k a year to educate my kids i think i have a right to an opinion on sunny lane school. or the teaching staff.



I like the unwins and have no complaints



i also like the members of staff who were dismissed no complaints



sort that out dutchy



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