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mmmmmm


Joined: 19/12/2008 Posts: 8398
Message Posted: 20/06/2009 19:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 20 in Discussion |
| Ah Paul, re msg 2 they rejected Annan to get the better plan... it's just that Liealotopoulos didn't HAVE one.. Varosha is just a bargaining chip used by TR and we ALL know it will be in the GC part of the island |
ilovekibris

Joined: 18/05/2009 Posts: 394
Message Posted: 20/06/2009 20:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 20 in Discussion |
| An amazing place to behold from the inside. ;) |
catalkoykid

Joined: 15/02/2009 Posts: 1190
Message Posted: 20/06/2009 20:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 20 in Discussion |
| mess 3 so you except the island will divide then,Varosha is just a bargaining chip used by TR and we ALL know it will be in the GC part of the island |
mmmmmm


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Message Posted: 20/06/2009 21:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 20 in Discussion |
| re msg 5 Catalkoykid <> Nope - it will still be one state, federated, into autonomous regions with TCs really having a say ! |
canyavuz

Joined: 22/02/2009 Posts: 363
Message Posted: 20/06/2009 21:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 20 in Discussion |
| mmm, message 3 "we ALL know it will be in the GC part of the island"...........i think you're forgetting that this will only happen in the event of a very unlikely solution being found. Dont keep your hopes up :~) |
andre 514

Joined: 31/03/2008 Posts: 1163
Message Posted: 21/06/2009 00:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 20 in Discussion |
| mark message 6 surely you mean you would like there to be one federated state of cyprus but I'd like there to be the non-federated state of trnc, and more widely accepted as the years roll by neither of us can know what will happen in the future, wishful thinking aside obviously while there has been little or no sign as yet of any breakthrough on the cyprus talks, even after all this time |
cypwine

Joined: 09/05/2009 Posts: 177
Message Posted: 21/06/2009 16:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 20 in Discussion |
| yes dodger i agree.. it should be free from turkish forces and given back to the cypriot people. |
TheSaints


Joined: 28/01/2009 Posts: 1369
Message Posted: 21/06/2009 16:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 20 in Discussion |
| There was the Annan Plan for return of the Varosha to Greek Cypriot control but Greek Cypriot voters rejected that plan with out realizing the actual fact. But its not ended yet Governments are planning together to make Varosha beautiful as it was before. Till now three concept hotels are designed by Laxia Inc. in 2010 it will be opened for the tourism by Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. It looks as though it will be given back to the Cypriot people............ |
beno12


Joined: 03/04/2009 Posts: 124
Message Posted: 21/06/2009 16:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 20 in Discussion |
| messg 10:cypwine. Varosha is patrolled by Turkish Cyprus Troops not Turkish troops... |
mmmmmm


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Message Posted: 21/06/2009 16:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 20 in Discussion |
| Dear Canyavuz re msg 7 It is not a hope - I'm being a realist !.. re msg 8 Andre_514 <> No I mean that's what the soln. will be ! ... <> you can "dream" - but after all these years is "acceptance" any closer? .. It might actually take a GC "lose" re the IPC at the ECHR - to get a dose of realism . re msg 11 Don't be taken in by posturing re Varosha.. |
andre 514

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Message Posted: 21/06/2009 19:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 20 in Discussion |
| mark I agree that realism is good but who's realism? still believe you indulge in wishful thinking but are unwilling to call it that so phoney realism could be called posturing note you were hell for leather last winter in favour of the talks succeeding, according to your definition of success obviously but are now more guarded, more general with your affectation of optomism... many of your views like everybody's are as much opinion as fact anyway north cyprus will never be taken over by the roc (my opinion) |
Brinsley

Joined: 04/04/2009 Posts: 6858
Message Posted: 21/06/2009 22:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 20 in Discussion |
| Read 'Cyprus Tapes' by Mathew Clarke. Very informative. Richard |
littlejohn

Joined: 09/03/2009 Posts: 316
Message Posted: 21/06/2009 23:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 20 in Discussion |
| Message 11 - Varosha was never beautiful !! A high rise blot on the landscape. |
ilovekibris

Joined: 18/05/2009 Posts: 394
Message Posted: 22/06/2009 13:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 20 in Discussion |
| dodger msg 15, Wheyhey - he name checked my pictures of the Ghost Town. |
mmmmmm


Joined: 19/12/2008 Posts: 8398
Message Posted: 22/06/2009 13:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 20 in Discussion |
| Dear Andre_514 you really ought to try to stop "twisting " what I say.. 1/ YES, I believe the talks - which are still on going WILL be "successful" - ultimately successful in bring about permanent solution to a very unsatisfactory one - for TCs' rights and all displaced Cypriots.. 2/ "north cyprus will never be taken over by the roc (my opinion)" "North Cyprus" *is* part of the RoC - officially - and THAT is part of the "problem " for TCs and folk buying on disputed land.. THAT is realism .. |
LondonCypriot

Joined: 15/12/2008 Posts: 426
Message Posted: 23/06/2009 00:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 20 in Discussion |
| North Cyprus is part of the Republic of Turkey |
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