The Genocide Files in paperback

Denise


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Message Posted:
21/06/2009 22:49

i walked down Girne high st yesterday from the Belediye and went in that little paper shop just opposite the rouınd castle. they had copies of the Genocide Files on sale for just 18tl and you got The Death of Friendship by Chief Matron Türkan Aziz free. i must say the free book only a small one was compelling reading i couldn't put it down till i finished. for anyone who wants to know some of the history and the real facts of Cyprus from the experience of Miss Aziz, this is a must read. it is easy reading and very emotional. it should be read by everyone around the world. i am about to start on the Genocide Files now, and by what i've heard that is an eye opener too. for anyone who is looking for a copy i suggest you get from the little shop and pick up your free book as well.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
21/06/2009 23:04

Also available at Pegasus Bar (next to Lemar) Karaglaoglu 15tl



Very compelling read I agree

CyprusChill


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Message Posted:
21/06/2009 23:42

A must read and pass on pair of books relative to the history of the island.

phylray



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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
21/06/2009 23:55

Yes, I read The Death of Friendship last year, lent to me by friend living there full-time.

It was rivetting, and it bears out the experiences in many parts, of friends who lived through

those times. He also has the Genocide Files which he has read, and despite the derision cast

on it by a certain poster, I will read it too. Another friend/neighbour bought it there too in May

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 13:14

Denise wrote: "for anyone who wants to know some of the history and the real facts of Cyprus from the experience of Miss Aziz, this is a must read."



Both Death of Friendship and Genocide Files are poorly written, hopelessly one-sided propaganda rants, funded by Turkey as no reputable publisher would touch them. They are best suited to the uneducated or extremely gullible. A search on Amazon will reveal many well-researched, balanced and objective books about the Cyprus conflict which look at the whole issue from multiple angles.

If you, Phylray, are recommending these two titles to people who actually want to learn the geopolitical facts about Cyprus then I'm sorry but I don't know what kind of a teacher or lecturer you ever were.

.

millzer


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Message Posted:
22/06/2009 14:15

Message 2, is that 15 TL for both books?

japeal



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Message Posted:
22/06/2009 15:05

Message 5,



Both the Genocide Files and Death of Friendship are compelling reading, yes there maybe a few inaccuracies.

However the 'South' cannot even put up one book that is anywhere near as compelling to read. Everything that comes from the Greek side is so full of propaganda that nothing can be believed. They still rant on about the 'Turkish Invasion of 74' it never existed. The Turkish Government INTERVEANED to prevent the Greek Cypriots committing Genocide. If the claims that the books are poorly written are true, why does almost everyone find them compelling to read?

phylray



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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 15:19

ILoveKibris



I cannot recommend a book I haven't read (Genocide Files) but I would like to read it, some time.

The Death of Friendship is a personal account of a British trained T.C. nursing sister about her own

experiences at the time. Are you saying she is lying? Maybe there are inaccuracies but it is interesting.

I consider your personal comments about my teaching abilities offensive. You know nothing about me

or my reputation as a teacher, lecturer, and in school management, in this country and abroad.

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 15:41

Every book written about the Cyprus conflict is bias or badly written, unless it is slanted in favor of the GC side, according to our GC friends. Thank the Gods that the pen is still mightier than the sword.



Just out of interest, why should people who were here at the time and saw with their own eyes the disgusting acts of brutality perpetrated by the GC’s be wrong, and someone who at best was still in nappies at the time, be right.



I know who I would believe.



Troodo.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 15:51

RE msg 5, ilovekibris > Both Death of Friendship and Genocide Files are poorly written, hopelessly one-sided propaganda rants, funded by Turkey as no reputable publisher would touch them. They are best suited to the uneducated or extremely gullible. A search on Amazon will reveal many well-researched, balanced and objective books about the Cyprus conflict which look at the whole issue from multiple angles.



If you, Phylray, are recommending these two titles to people who actually want to learn the geopolitical facts about Cyprus then I'm sorry but I don't know what kind of a teacher or lecturer you ever were. <



=> One doesn't have to be a philologist to recognize the style of the message, Eric(Seans)..! Get out of here, spread your poison on a RoC board.

vincehugo


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 208

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 15:58

Lostgeezer,



I'm a bit puzzled. The references you post appear to relate to issues between the Greeks and the Turks. And you further claim that reading the Genocide files makes people "feel better about living on Greek land".

Cyprus is not Greece and I think you'll find that the land in question is either Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot but certainly not Greek land. Perhaps it would have been better for all Cypriots if Greece had not interfered in Cyprus in the first place.

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:25

japeal wrote: "However the 'South' cannot even put up one book that is anywhere near as compelling to read. Everything that comes from the Greek side is so full of propaganda that nothing can be believed."



You're missing the whole point. The only truly objective and balanced references have to come from OUTSIDE Cyprus. Both sides will put their own intentional or unintentional spin on events.



"They still rant on about the 'Turkish Invasion of 74'. It never existed."



This comment proves the huge gaps in your knowledge about Cyprus. The Turkish invasion took place on July 20, 1974 and was the most pivotal event in the island's modern history. Take it from me it DID happen.



"The Turkish Government INTERVEANED to prevent the Greek Cypriots committing Genocide."



Presumably President Ecevit - the man who ordered the invasion - told you this before he died?

ilovekibris


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Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:26

continued...



japeal wrote: ""If the claims that the books are poorly written are true, why does almost everyone find them compelling to read?"



By "almost everyone" do you mean a few poorly-educated individuals on a small forum? Because these books are very hard to sell anywhere else.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:28

RE msg 15, Lostgeezer > if Greece had not interfered in Cyprus in the first place starting hundreds of years ago <



=> I believe that you mean well, but this is utter rubbish. "Greece" doesn't even exist "hundreds of years". "Hundreds of years ago" Cyprus was ruled by the Ottoman Sultans (from 1571), followed up by Brits (from 1878). Why don't we all stick to the historical facts?

millzer


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Posts: 978

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:31

Oh god here we go again.......... booooorrrrring. This is precisely why the talks will probably go nowhere as the GC's will never admit to being the instigators of the troubles in the first place. I'm sure the Turks/TC's did commit some atrocities too in their haste to fight back against GC oppression. What should they have done? Sat back in their 3% enclaves and prayed to Allah!!!!

ilovekibris


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Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:31

phylray wrote: "The Death of Friendship is a personal account of a British trained T.C. nursing sister about her own experiences at the time. Are you saying she is lying? Maybe there are inaccuracies but it is interesting.



So as a former "academic" you think that something containing inaccuracies is "interesting"? It hardly makes it recommended reading, does it?



You say this book is a personal account, but as a former English teacher what do you have to say about the change in prose and writing style halfway through? One could be forgiven for thinking somebody somewhere suggested another "author" take over to give it the correct spin - someone with a style remarkably similar to Harry Scott Gibbons.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:32

I'm afraid "ilovekibris" (= EricSeans) and I have different views on and a diffrent interpretation of events pre-1960 until now. But at least he knows his facts.

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:36

troodo wrote: "why should people who were here at the time and saw with their own eyes the disgusting acts of brutality perpetrated by the GC’s be wrong?"



Because human beings who were traumatised or otherwise involved in events have been known to exaggerate or even lie about things. Some claim to have witnessed acts they never even saw. That is why the basic principle about objectivity from the outside looking in - along with corroboration of evidence and proper references proving research - is the only way a non-fiction book can be taken seriously. But surely you know all that?

ilovekibris


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Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:40

dutchcrusader wrote: "One doesn't have to be a philologist to recognize the style of the message, Eric(Seans)..! Get out of here, spread your poison on a RoC board."



I've noticed your ability to fall out with almost every member on here, but personally I do find you quite entertaining. However if you think I am EricSeans then you are quite mistaken. Do you mean we share the same views or can we both spell reasonably well (I know that's one of your pet hates )?

Troodo


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Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:44

Some claim to have witnessed acts they never even saw?

How the hell would you know!



Keep struggling Kibris.



Troodo.

vincehugo


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 208

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:45

Lost Geezer Re Msg 15



" If you think that links have nothing to do with greeks and turks then you no nothing."



My point (fairly clearly made, I thought) was that the links have everything to do with Greeks and Turks and nothing to do with Cyprus. Please don't be so hasty to jump down my throat when you haven't actually read what I said. And then claiming that I "no nothing" when in fact you can't even spell it right seems a little ironic!

ilovekibris


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Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 16:59

troodo wrote: "Some claim to have witnessed acts they never even saw? How the hell would you know!"



Am I dealing with someone who thinks ALL people who lived through war and invasion only speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? If so, please don't bother replying to any of my posts in future.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 17:08

RE msg 26, Lostgeezer > Greece existed in 1821 very nearly 200 years ago, is that near enough for you. <



=> Sorry, Lostgeezer. You really haven't got a clue about Cyprus' history. "Young Greece" from 1821 had no influence whatsoever on Cyprus. Plenty of books to enlighten you.



> If the turks treated the greeks in Cyprus better from 1571 (20,000 massacred in Nicosia that year) maybe there would be no trouble now between the two comunities. <



=> The people massacred in Nicosia (1570, not 1571) were mainly Venetians and other Latins. And amongst historians there are different views: one side claims they were massacred during the final day (and two days after) the siege. Another faction believes that the whole 45 day siege counts 20.000 victims. You really should read more. I suggest "The Turks in Cyprus" for a start. Available in Lefkosha (Rüstem Book shop).

vincehugo


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Posts: 208

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 17:16

Lostgeezer.



I did read it, including the section you kindly cut and pasted. This thread started off dicussing the Genocide Files, one account of what actually happened in Cyprus. By comparison, pointing to articles about civil disturbances between Greeks and Turks elsewhere, during which Cyprus was mentioned, and then suggesting that this is "the other side of the story" seems seems a pretty weak argument to me.



As for your spelling, it has got nothing to do with getting your point across - I'll let you struggle on trying to do that. But if you choose to insult my intelligence by saying that I "no nothing" I think I am entitled to point out that your spelling isn't great.

Troodo


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Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 17:33

Kibris



That was no answer.

Keep clutching at straws.



Troodo

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 17:42

RE msg 23, ilovekibris > I've noticed your ability to fall out with almost every member on here <



=> That maybe so - I couldn't care less, I'm definitely not after a 'board medal'. But I'm not afraid to give my personal details in my profile. And you are not man or women enough to do that. A so-called "anonymous board-hero".

vincehugo


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Posts: 208

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 18:06

Lostgeezer,



I am very aware that there is a complex history, and I certainly don't see it as you suggest I do. However I am saying that your earlier post sought to discredit the Genocide Files saying there are two sides to every story. I've read the Genocide Files and I'd be interested to hear what the other side to THIS story is i.e. where is it misleading, factually incorrect, what really happened over the period described. And I don't think the links you posted answer this.

wanderer


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Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 18:33

vincehugo

I agree the posts relating to the Turkey Greece conflicts are just part of the background .

The Story of Nurse Aziz from her youth her journey across Europe just before the ports were closed to the times in the North West of England her Welsh accent and other anecdotes give credibility to the horrors of the Archbishop Makarios III era and the Samson and the like .

The intervention of Turkey has kept the peace and stopped the inter communal violence .

As always religion is used as the excuse as with the Balkans for personal greed and power

"With god on our side"

from the Crusade and before have a look at the lyrics from 1963 by Dylan the chemical dust line was a real one at the time

http://www.bobdylan.com/#/songs/god-our-side

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 18:42

It seems IloveKibris would like to tell us all what to read and not.

I don't have a copy of Death of Friendship with me and I am not able

to verify any facts in it as being true or not. I was not there, but she was.

I would advocate reading all that one can about the subject. I do know

people who were actually there at the time. I also have an account by a

young British U.N soldier with no reason to be sympathetic to T.C's - but

what he sees, gives him reason to be.

p.s. I still do teach, albeit privately - exam. tuition. No, I don't advertise.

Parents ask for help. I encourage reading of every kind.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 19:03

phy,

i have the book called the genocide files if you want to read it when you are in girne let me know - my husband family went through all theses terrible events and i can tell you i knew all about it before the book was written so let the people who want to write the history in there way to do so - they will never change the facts !

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 20:05

The sad fact is this story has already unfolded.



Perhaps this emotive tale set in modern history, should not have been given permission to be written.



The author, his co writers and publisher but to name a few are known to all.



The innocent remain almost anonymous in a book that affects people still, to this day amongst its pages and chapters.



Not just a simple case of removing such a book from a library shelf or covering so as not to offend.



I would not recommend this one to my family, friends or enemies.

vincehugo


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Posts: 208

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 20:30

Lostgeezer Re Msg 38



Hmm. Not sure why you posted this. Is it to prove that the book is misleading in some way? Most of the posts are positive (who knows what the motivations of the posters are?) and there are then a few negatives (a couple of them blatantly posted twice). I guess my (equally unfounded) view would be that these are from the usual Greek Cypriot propagandists. So what's the point?



I did have a look at the reviews for the book your recommended - Hostage to Cyprus - and this has equally mixed reviews.



http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/1859841899/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?ie=UTF8&coliid=&showViewpoints=1&colid=&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending



As you said before there are always two sides to a story - but I'm afraid I am not entirely convinced by the "US-conspiracy -blameless-Greek-Cypriots-view" he appears to espouse. Although it doesn't seem like he is blaming the Turkish Cypriots either.

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 20:42

Msg 6 Millzer, yes 15tl for both books.



But Pikey (as usual) rubbishes the books, no change there then.

ilovekibris


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Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:05

Your readers should be aware that the author of this book, Mr. Gibbons, is well-known only to Turkish Cypriots and mainland Turks. He is not considered a serious author in any other part of the world, including his native Britain. Since the 1970s he has been a well-paid propagandist for the Turkish Cypriot cause and his book is 95 percent fiction. These files that he claims to have found, and upon which he bases his book, never existed. They are akin to the "Hitler Diaries" of a few years ago. Except in Northern Cyprus and Turkey (and the Internet) you will not find his book for sale. It is common practice for Turkey to appropriate atrocity stories from other wars and other countries, change the names and locations, and claim them as their own. It is a shame that this packet of lies posing as a timely document is on the market and thus able to contribute to the further brainwashing of Turkish Cypriots and their supporters. There are many other fine books on the subject, esp. The

ilovekibris


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Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:09

contined...



There are many other fine books on the subject, esp. The Cyprus Conspiracy.



That's what Matthew Stowell thought of it.



Or how about this former UN medic:



I don't know what the author's motives in this misrepresentation are, but some reviews here have suggested that he is under the employ of the Turkish government. Given this totally one-sided diatribe, bearing no resemblance to my own recollection of events, i cannot disagree with this assertion.

A truly awful book which sets out to give excuses for a brutal Turkish invasion which left some 5000 casualties.

It really is a shame that this book seems to have been written with one aim in mind - to falsify history and give a totally biased version of events in the hope of causing hatred instead of mending bridges between the Greeks and Turks of Cyprus. What a great opportunity lost......



They sound as if they think only chumps would read this dross.

ilovekibris


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Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:12

Lostgeezer wrote: "People who buy property in north Cyprus no deep down that it is wrong but they justify it by saying the greeks were nasty to the turks so they deserve to lose there homes and then buy them cheap. They are interfering in Cyprus problem by doing this, its not there business."



I couldn't agree more.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:21

Looks like the GC sympathisers have combined forces in an repeated effort to discredit "The Genocide Files", a book they hate most of all. Nothing new in this thread - it has all been said before in the past five years. On several Bulletin Boards. Often by people who forgot how many nicknames they use(d). We'd best ignore the fifth column.

CyprusChill


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Posts: 666

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:22

The copy and paste of a peace and love keeping UN Medic .... yeh man cool.



And the rest of the Services personnel, who may have read such books as The Genocide Files and experienced first hand the climate and treatment at the time. These experiences should also be captured and documented ... not so cool man.



And to fully show my ignorance, Eoka, Enosis .. What was that all about ?

CyprusChill


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Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:33

Encyclopedia - Explanation of EOKA



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EOKA

CyprusChill


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Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:35

Encyclopedia - Explanation of Enosis



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enosis

ilovekibris


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Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:38

A lot to learn eh, CyprusChill?

vincehugo


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Posts: 208

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:51

ILK Msg 42 & 44



"Matthew J. Stowell is an Associate with the American Hellenic Media Project (AHMP), a non-profit think-tank created to address bias in the media and encourage independent, ethical and responsible journalism."



Good to get some independent and objective reviews! Wonder how much he was paid for his objectivity?

CyprusChill


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Posts: 666

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 21:52

Mountains behind me and sea in front, paradise and i do endeavor to learn from books and people and the nature and sights about me.

So far my Dads tales have rung true. I was only a lad when evacuated back then during the intervention.

Troubled times indeed and im sure you would agree, never to return again.

phylray



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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 22:02

Sylvie

Thanks for offer. My friend nearby in Turtle Bay has it and will have a look sometime.

I look forward to meeting up again. Will contact you to arrange a meeting place unless

you can. You should meet my friend's husband who was also there during the troubles

and worked for the "underground" - still meets up with the "old boys" A tout a l'heure!

(sorry if my French is rusty!) Know where Guido's is now anyway!



Dutch So right you are, and I have not fallen out with you - yet!

chick


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Posts: 323

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 22:06

Msg 42.



This book can be bought in the UK, and even in the lending libraries you can borrow it.

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
22/06/2009 22:15

ilovekibris (do you really?)



'It really is a shame that this book seems to have been written with one aim in mind - to falsify history and give a totally biased version of events in the hope of causing hatred instead of mending bridges between the Greeks and Turks of Cyprus.'



Falsifying history? don't make me laugh. Explain to us all about the history books that you learnt from in school in the South and tell me that what you were taught in school was correct.

ilovekibris


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Posts: 394

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 23:10

AJ wrote: "Falsifying history? don't make me laugh. Explain to us all about the history books that you learnt from in school in the South and tell me that what you were taught in school was correct."



Believe it or not I was brought up to think for myself and to be suspicious of nationalism. You may consider this a leftist view but I have only considered it the best view in Cyprus, where so often your friend has turned out to be your enemy. The people like this on the island who don't look to the other side and say "You're a Turk" or "You're a Greek", but who say "You're my brother", these are the people who will lead a new Cyprus forward for all our children.



Insallah.

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
22/06/2009 23:17

ILK

What ever you are on I want some.

You are not a realist. End of sermon.

AJ

Troodo


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Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
22/06/2009 23:45

Kibris and other GC’s.

Be careful, or you will strangle yourself with your own words.



Troodo

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 00:02

Troodo, do you mean choke on their own words !



Or maybe swallow their own words perhaps

phylray



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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 00:15

When I asked my taxi driver nearly 9 years ago if he was a Turkish Cypriot

he replied "I am a Cypriot" I was so glad to hear these words. (He spoke

excellent English and was very reliable. ) This attitude is the way forward.

newscoop


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Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 00:22

Interesting;



Message 42, a diatrab against Harry Scott Gibbons is word for word exactly the same as one posted by Pikey early last year.



How can this be?



As for Lost geezer he needs a spellchecker.



Sorry for being pedantic.

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 00:33

Mention Harry Scott Gibbons on here and Pikey is up like a bottle of fizzy pop !



Think he may be envious of this mans literary work working for the Daily Mail & Express in the Middle East and Cyprus....still beats working for a local rag north of the border

phylray



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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 00:42

Talking of books, have just read Azar Nafisi's book "Reading Lolita in Tehran"

Her first hand account of events there during her lifetime and up to 1997

"Engrossing, fascinating, stunning" not my words - Margaret Atwood.

CyprusChill


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Posts: 666

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 00:45

Available through AMAZON for those that are unable to aquire from a local bookshop.



My first copy now does the rounds from a library.

sylvie


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Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 00:52

what about turkish cypriots !! the posts are also written by them - they do exist - still !!!

chezzi


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Message Posted:
23/06/2009 01:06

12ytl for both books at Nothing is Forgotten in Edremit on the road to Karmi.

C

vincehugo


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Posts: 208

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 01:22

Newscoop Re Msg 62



The words in Msg 42 are cut and pasted from a review of the Genocide Files on Amazon posted by Matthew J Stowell in Feb 2005. This is the same Matthew Stowell who is "an Associate with the American Hellenic Media Project (AHMP)". So much for objectivity but hope it at least explains why the words are the same.



VH

CyprusChill


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Posts: 666

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 10:44

A very experienced cut and paster ..



Also sings a good version of 'The song remains the same'.