The Talks.............does anyone know

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
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Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:00

They have been jaw jawing for months now does anyone have any credible info on what they agree on or is it they agree on nothing and are worlds apart ?





There are leaks and sources of information on all subjects from all over the world but these talks are water tight someone must know something

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
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Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:04

Yea, just ask ILK and cypwine they know every thing!

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:16

yeh the above mentioned know that cyprus will never be reunited ! ever



long live the KKTC

dodger



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Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:25

Tats,

If only we had a crystal ball mate.The gcs wont back down and the tcs dont really have anything to bargain with so basically its a stalemate,in my opinion.Can you really see Turkey withdrawing their troops.In my opinion there will be a solution but it will be a two state one with sweeteners for the north.I do think though that the direct flight thing will happen though as that will be one of the sweeteners,

Paul.

dodger



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Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:44

http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/link.asp?twindow=Default&smenu=123&sdetail=9051&mad=No&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate=



An optimistic piece from Turkey,

Paul.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:45

dodger so pleased that you have made a sensible post, think your opinion is on the same wave lengths as most of us.

Just my own thoughts, Turkey is just 'playing' with G.C, dont think they really want the E.U. at all, just making a play for concessions, they are great alies to most of the muslim countries and are bordering most of the important ones!! Just ask the U.S.! they wont fall out with Turkey over a bit of old rock!

Think that they might even bring out the old war ships again re the oil under N.C, we shall see.

Hector


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Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:48

What difference does it make to Turkey whether they have their troops in NC or not? Extremely unlikely that the RoC would dare invade. I can see a strategic reason (other than the RoC issue) and it's a good place for a training camp but they could still withdraw say 90% of their troops without a problem I would have thought.

dodger



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Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:48

http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/link.asp?twindow=Default&smenu=123&sdetail=9053&mad=No&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate=



More optimism then you could swing a stick at,

Paul.

dodger



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Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:51

http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/link.asp?twindow=Default&smenu=123&sdetail=9047&mad=No&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate=



On a roll now guys,

Paul.

dodger



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Message Posted:
23/06/2009 23:56

Hector re-mess 7,

If it doesnt make any difference to Turkey having troops in the n.c. then why wont they withdraw them,

Paul.

slimboyfat


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Posts: 96

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 00:01

All they ever agree on is the date of the next meeting

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 00:07

Slim you are so right.



You would have thought anything positive and they would be shouting about it......why keep it a secret ?

andre 514


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Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 00:11

in one of mark's newer postings he seems to be talking about "autonomy without reunification",

cypwine/suzanne/juliet calculated it was "75% in the bag" whatever that means

while old pikey predicted six months ago he was "90% sure" there would be an agreement by june

lastly, ilovekibris is already sorting out which mainland turks would be "permitted to stay"

with itinerants and single illegal guys presumably marching onto the ships with heads held high



meanwhile back on planet earth, despite the willingness of many cyprus 44 regulars to pay up,

the roc and their former north cyprus occupiers have never really asked for the cash in lieu,

they want their former northern provinces back under roc control, and who can really blame them?



opinion in the north has hardened since the abortive 2004 proposals with thoughts mainly local

and while expats see it as "comp/yes/no?", the impossibility is squaring turkish security guarantees

with letting the south control all of cyprus

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 00:14

The Turkish troops should remain as continued protection for the people, the land and the potential protection and rights for the eastern mediteranean.



From historical information the EU, International community and very much so the British and Irish who had first hand experience and adverse treatment in modern history know only to well.



http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/ROH.htm

Turtle


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 00:25

Good article CC

andre 514


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 09:18

turtle,



they have been meeting for many months and early-on agreed a form of words:

cyprus should be a bizonal bicommunal federated state



but they are yet to announce anything on the land issue, a critical issue

because to appease south cyprus and former occupiers, people could be turfed out of their homes



equally intractible is the security issue with turkey's guarantee backed by two divisions on the island



there is little prospect that these basic contradictions can ever be accommodated

but while opinion in the north has toughened since 2004, the south is demanding more every month



although there are those either naive or troublesome seeming to talk up a deal,

the longer the whole circus continues, the less realistic an easy link-up appears: don't wait up!

meanwhile neither side wants to provoke international opinion



there is of course an alternative with much to commend it

keep the two very different cyprus states, with the best possible of relationships

Amber


Joined: 26/09/2008
Posts: 561

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 11:41

Ok I know I don't know a great deal about the politicial situation here, but at the end of the day they can talk and talk but at the end of the day it comes down to what the people vote in the referendum. Or not ???

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 12:31

My opinion impossible situation

army cant leave in case it kicks off again

gc wont compromise on anything even a game of tiddlywinks

power sharing gc will want greater powers then tc

gc propaganda is so efficient and well practiced nothing the tc or turkey does gets through the net

big trouble looming on the oil situation its bigger then peace talks

young gc that have not been brainwashed are totally at ease with turkish cypriots and europeans in the north and dont see it as such as a problem.

UK only sits on one side and we know which one that is

treatment of brits and europeans in the south re deeds etc is swinging opinion about brits in the north to a more positive stance and i know of 3 couples that are selling and moving here hoorah

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 12:38

Dear Andre_514 re 13



>>autonomy without "reunification"<<



Bizonal Federated State - nothing knew - it's the inevitable solution - yavosh, yavosh - siga, siga - slowly,slowly .. this IS Cyprus....!



You'll "get it" ( in more ways than you can imagine ) ,soon ;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 12:45

Dear CyprusChilli



re msg 14



Certain TR General's feel the need to stay in CY to "protect TR's soft under-belly" ..nothing to do with protecting TCs , I noted ....



Back in Apr 2004 TCs were prepared to accept only 950 TR troops being stationed - and it isn't as if plane loads of Troops couldn't be landed back in minutes..



The "rump" RoC has a few Russian Tanks - but no airforce to speak of and the SS300 missiles that TR feared were never stationed on CY ..so it's not like the 2nd biggest army in Nato have much to "fear"...



If the TCs felt "threatened"... I hardly think the UN would be a token presence..



Time to "move on" don't you think?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 12:52

re msg 19



OMG..>> nothing *k*new<<



PLEASE can we have the edit post facility.. spell checkers useless, sometimes... :(

girne 29


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 13:03

message 7 &10



if no turkish troops ,how about this scenario.



ROC army crosses into north and takes over government. The ROC might presume that if done quickly enough ,by the time Turkey can react there would be a fait accompli.



Turkey would then have the choice of leaving things alone or invading a now EU country.

The ROC would be gambling that Turkey would be unwilling to enter into a military conflict with the EU.



If Turkey then waited until the mistreatment of inhabitants or ethnic cleansing arose to give them an excuse to invade, as in 74,the ROC would have had plenty time to prepare. This might give the ROC the idea that Turkey would baulk at the loss of Tukish Army lives against a well armed ,well dug in , and well prepared force and also the loss of turkish inhabitants in revenge attacks.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 13:13

Dear Girne_29



If this was a likely scenario - which it isn't - the TR military would be able to land troops in minutes and control the airspace - picking off tanks - nearly at will.



It just ain't going to happen - the "rump" RoC is a place that depends on tourism and commerce - do you SERIOUSLY think they'd risk everything ...?



If you doubt that - the RoC Generals will remember what happened in Georgia - when they though they'd they a similar scenario you mention - when some of the RU leadership were in China for the Olympic Games opening ....

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 13:40

dizzycow wrote :"Think that they might even bring out the old war ships again re the oil under N.C, we shall see"



The only people who pay attention to that garbage are members of this forum and the ignorant. There's no oil!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 13:44

WOW !! re msg 24



NEWSFLASH ..





AJ and ILK agree on something ! ;)



" there is no oil off Cyprus" ...

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 13:48

Not even in the seas? thought that was why the stand off was with the South, gas/oil explorations?

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 13:53

ILK, can you not answer any thing back on this forum without 'eating poison' before you write, as it does show your ignorance towards mankind!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 14:18

re msg 18 Cyprusairsoft



a little "perspective" needed..



>>My opinion impossible situation << "a labyrinth without an exit" - Mr Holbrook - who negotiated the end to the Serbia/ Croatia/ Bosnia spat..



>>army cant leave in case it kicks off again <<



YEAH, right... like it would take more than 30 minutes to have troops on the ground and to knock out "rump" RoC tanks from the air.. and you think the "rump" RoC would risk another lesson like the Georgians had and lose MORE territ



>>gc wont compromise on anything even a game of tiddlywinks <<



Might I point out it was the TC representatives that didn't compromise for nearly 30 years following the TR invasion / intervention - unti lthe ECHR court decisions started piling up against TR - some taken out by TCs !



>>power sharing gc will want greater powers then tc <<



well, this isn't a scenario for the Bi-zonal federated, solution..



Cont

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 14:26

re msg 29 cont



>>gc propaganda is so efficient and well practiced nothing the tc or turkey does gets through the net <<



Ah, this "success" must explain how the thousand of GCs have been able to move back to their homes.. don't confuse UN security council resolutions with "propaganda"..



>>big trouble looming on the oil situation its bigger then peace talks <<



IF there's oil worth tapping..



>>young gc that have not been brainwashed are totally at ease with turkish cypriots and europeans in the north and dont see it as such as a problem. <<



You might be right - the "problem " they have is with TURKS claiming "TRNC" " citizenship"..



cont

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 14:34

cont



>>UK only sits on one side and we know which one that is <<



Hmm, and a GC will tell you it is on TR's side .. bigger "fish" - bigger purchaser of arms- bigger player in NATO / region .. !



UK making noises to "reward " TC for TC YES to Annan.. do you think this is all just "hot air" ! ?



>>treatment of brits and europeans in the south re deeds etc is swinging opinion about brits in the north to a more positive stance and i know of 3 couples that are selling and moving here hoorah <<



I don't think the Deeds farce in the south has anything to do with the CY problem - although - of course - if some folk think buying on disputed land in "TRNC" is "safer" ... than buying on pre-owned - with deeds - properties in the "south"...



I'd recommend ANYONE thinking of buying ANYWHERE in CY to rent for at LEAST a year - in the part they THINK they like and see how it goes..

girne 29


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 15:50

mmmm

message 23







You seem to make a habit of it stating incorrectly what people say in order to promote an argument.

In this case save your energy, because I agree with what you say.



I did NOT say it was a likely scenario.so no need to waste time in arguing .





The question was put as too why it might be seen necessary for the Turkish Army to stay,I replied with one of many scenarios that might be in peoples minds.



Another scenario might be the Turkish Army needing to help when Godzilla comes out the sea to flatten TRNC



No need to argue whether Godzilla would just flatten exchange property or not. Again, its not a likely scenario and therfore no need for you to argue the exchange property point

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 16:12

Dear Girne_29 re 31



>>I did NOT say it was a likely scenario.so no need to waste time in arguing . <<



and ( in response to my pointing out WHY it was highly unlikely)



>>agree with what you say.<<



I'm sure folk will be " reassured"



>>so no need to waste time in arguing <<



Could I ask then why - as we agree it is an unlikely scenario and you are keen to save my energy, you posted such a response in the first place?!





>>You seem to make a habit of it stating incorrectly what people say in order to promote an argument. <<



Hmm.. I *quoted* you .. you admitted it was an unlikely scenario AFTER I pointed it out ... ?!



I did not detect any irony in your post ..

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 16:37

Hello mmmmmmmmm, are they not exploring the sea around for gaz/oil? just thought they were.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 16:44

re 33



Dizzycows



>>re they not exploring the sea around for gaz/oil? just thought they were. <<



YES, but we have members from the oil biz on here who really doubt that any oil / gas found will be worth it, commercially ...

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 17:27

Oh, ok, just thought that Turkey would know re oil/gas, not nesessarily forum members on the oil biz site, the explorations that have been on going for a while have found something, but as you say they really dont know how big the 'field' is do they. But thanks for answering me mmmmmm.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 18:12

to mmmmmmmmm



I don't think the Deeds farce in the south has anything to do with the CY problem - although - of course - if some folk think buying on disputed land in "TRNC" is "safer" ... than buying on pre-owned - with deeds - properties in the "south"...





that is the trouble mark at least we are getting deeds here not like in the south where thousands of brits have their back to the wall and are being shafted

we know your stance on exchange land etc i have no problem with it and if i loose it all at the finding of a solution

that goes gc way then so be it . i have had a good run and i will invest in turkey cant loose then an apartment or 2 from the gc on his old land in cyprus lovely jubbly

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 18:49

So really then no one knows whats been agreed or disagreed or really whats been discussed and any possible outcome.



If there was to be as suggested an agreement by year end then they are cutting it fine to dot the eyes and cross the tee's have a vote and tidy things up all within the next 5 or 6 months.



Tall order in my opinion.

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 18:59

Yep couldnt agree with you more turtle,

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 19:25

Mark

Re your message 25.

Where have I ever said that there is no oil and gas in the med around Cyprus? There are Oil and Gas reserves in all seas of the world. The difference is whether there is enough to make drilling viable and what cost it takes to extract. It is interesting that the ROC gave away licences for exploration as opposed to asking for block bids and that indicates to me that yet again this is just a political manoeuvre to try and gain some bargaining power during the 'Peace Talks'

AJ

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 20:42

Cyprusairsoft



re msg 36

>>..at least we are getting deeds here <<





Hmm if that were only a fact..

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 20:44

re msg 38



AJ

>>Where have I ever said that there is no oil and gas in the med around Cyprus?<<



you haven't - but you DID sayit wouldn't be worth pulling up - right?!

ilovekibris


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 22:50

dizzycow: "Not even in the seas? thought that was why the stand off was with the South, gas/oil explorations"



No - not even in the seas. That load of old codswallop appears in rubbishy English-language TRNC newspapers for the benefit of people like you. Find a credible link pointing to any truth in the matter and you MAY get taken seriously.

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 23:10

http://www.oilmarketer.co.uk/2007/08/17/companies-bid-for-cyprus-oil-exploration-licences/

ilovekibris


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Posts: 394

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 23:32

I'm getting the turtle's head...

Turtle


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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 23:40

Of course you are Pikey.....................your full of it.

newlad



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Message Posted:
24/06/2009 23:42

Now then Tats hows tricks mate.Good link regarding the oil,things will happen before the end of the year trust me.

Jetski


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Posts: 584

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 23:45

As I said a couple of years ago, and another renowned geologist some years before my arrival, there's no economicaly recoverable oil reserve around Cyprus. Stop arguing about it.

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
25/06/2009 00:26

Hi, I'm a newbie to both Cyprus and this BB, and have been soaking information up as fast and as thoroughly as I can. Thanks to most of the posters for their calm and reasoned pointmaking. It's becoming clearer just who is pushing what barrows, and apart from a few poisoned chalices it's good to read all posts.



But I have to say to you, "mmmmmm", that your arguing style is so tangential many of your replies are almost off-topic, and that your overuse of quotation marks is as pointless as it is irritating. Additionally, it would assist your credibility if you could learn the difference between possessive apostrophes, simple plurals and common pronouns.



Apart from that, keep up the good work.....I'm really enjoying it all.

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
25/06/2009 10:58

msg 27....alas he is immune to the poison he takes. He never got enough attention as a child and this to him is normal behaviour! he must have a toilet roll under his chin.



The talks will soon be coming to an end and we will see how far the GC side are prepared to bargain. (if any)

sun44shine


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Posts: 16

Message Posted:
25/06/2009 11:47

Newlad



Mess 46 - what makes you say that ??

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 12:08

Newlad what news do you think by the end of the year we may hear of something? jetski, rottolover please dont get upset regarding this discussion, we'r not argueing just wanting to know 'IF' there could be any thing in what our English papers are on about. Gas and Oil.



Tiggy and I just wonder why we have a 'small child' to deal with in the form of ILK!! who just loves to be rude,nasty, and quite frankly an ass in most of his/her posts. lol

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 12:21

Dear Rottolover



re 48



Welcome to the board



You might be aware we also have a contributor of Dutch nationality who is also more concerned - one might even call him a pendant- about grammar / spelling than the thread topic...



Now WHO was it that was suggesting that some of my posts were tangential ;) ?



Have you something - of substance - to "offer" re this topic ?





Hope you "enjoyed" my response ... !

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 13:42

"Thanks" "mmmmmm" I did "indeed".



Nothing of "substance" yet, because I'm still "soaking" up all the "information" from the "experts" here such as "you"....



And I think you'll find he's a "pedant" rather than some sort of "dangly thingo"....



Hooroo.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 13:54

Dear Rottolover



re msg 53



PeNdant - you GOT me ;)...



Now I understand how I can entertain...



I'm hoping to enjoy a substantial debate with you - sometime - and in the meantime - you can decide if you and DC are of similar dispositions ....

fire starter


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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 14:06

god forbid , that is worrying, lol.

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 14:22

Look forward to reading your posts you two.

mmmmmm, please dont take this as an insult or getting at you, but I do find your posts distracting in so much that it is disjointed for us 'laymen' to read.

But on the whole get the jist of what you write. Its all the >>> <<< ::;; between sentences that is distracting the real issues of what you write. But I still like to read what you have to say, lol

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 14:47

Thanks mmmmmm, likewise.



I'll make an assumption here that 'DC' and that bloke 'of Dutch nationality' are the same person, who I opine to be 'Dutch Crusader', but it's too early for me to say whether we are of similar dispositions.



But while I'm here again, perhaps I could straighten out an erroneous assumption of yours....I think I read on another post somewhere that you are an amateur lawyer who loves showing the pros how to win cases? Do you save your logical argument for the courts then, for you have assumed that Mr DC and I are "both" (your first error) "more concerned" (your second) about grammar/spelling than the thread topic. How on earth could you jump to that conclusion without a complete disregard for any form of logical progression?



To clarify it for you, the thread topics to me are most important, and I find those posts which are cohesive, logical and well-expressed to be the easiest and usually most interesting to read. Not always, of course.......

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 15:06

Jetski

Ref: message 47.

I have been trying to tell that to everyone for ages. Its all been done before and it is a political manoeuvre by the ROC designed to put pressure on the talks.

AJ

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 15:33

Turtle

Message 43

I would advise you to re-evaluate the situation, that news release is nearly 2 years old. From what I understand prelim seismology indicated that there were no significant reserves of fossil fuels and that those initial companies pulled out. The ROC have given away licenses since to three minor exploration companies. Politics, nothing more.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 20:12

re 60 Thank you LG



Rotto, you need to concentrate on your own "tangentiality" .. WHAT is the topic of this thread ?!



Dizzy/ Rotto - I simply write as things enter my head - I will try to bear in mind your points re my >> << that's quoting ...



I would use "<< >>"" for quotes but the code will not show correctly and the contents within disappear on this forum :(

Turtle


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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 21:38

AJ, I was just highlighting in response to MSG42, I know full well its out of date,

he wanted a link so I gave it.

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
25/06/2009 23:19

Hi Lostgeezer,



Thank you for pointing out my errors. Could you detail them for me, so I can learn from them and improve?

Rottolover



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Posts: 519

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 14:07

Hi again Lostgeezer,



I thought you might have been taking a punt, because even after another check I couldn't find any errors. The only things that came up in Word, which often is simply not correct, was 'mmmmmm' (I ignored that one) and 'are' in the first line, which is correct (one of the many examples of the uselessness of Word's grammar checker).



But as you had said there were three grammatical errors, I assumed you could supply them rather than fob it off with a silly reference to Word. So I guess it isn't I who is looking 'stupid'.....



Incidentally, I don't ever call people stupid. It's one of the many unpleasant, unnecessary and offensive adjectives I don't use. I believe if you can't get a message across without needing to resort to invective, it's time to re-think.



Hooroo.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/06/2009 14:13

re msg 65 Rottoo



>>I don't ever call people stupid<<< .. NAH.. you suggest their "cred" could be suspect... much more polite ;)





Anything to contribute on the Talks, anyone ? :(

Rottolover



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Posts: 519

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 16:08

Hey mmmmmm, how ya doin?



Sounds like I got up "YOU'RE" nose a bit (yes, you're right, it should be "your").



I'm really sorry if I upset you...

















Oh hell, no I'm not, it's all good fun.



My wife and I are going to be in TRNC in September, so if you're somewhere near us I'd be delighted to buy you a beer (or two) and have a chat.



Hooroo.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/06/2009 16:19

Dear Rotto,



>>Sounds like I got up "YOU'RE" nose a bit<<



Don't get too "confident" ... I'm just tellin' it like I saw it



>>I'd be delighted to buy you a beer (or two)<<



We are "trapped" in the UK... Visa "issues"

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 16:34

Wow, you mean they won't let you in???



What did you DO?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 17:21

re msg 69 - if the wife Leaves the UK - she would need a Visa to come back in - while the UK Border Agency gets around to giving her a residency card - should take six months max ( Joke)





Now if the RoC had issued her with the ID card she was entitled to...





It's all on here somewhere

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 17:45

Rotto

You might have to wait a long time, I have been offering to buy him a beer for years. Maybe he just does not want to meet me

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
28/06/2009 11:35

Dear AJ,



re msg 71



You" hurt" my feelings... we haven't been ABLE to come - as only one of us might be allowed back to the UK ;)



Don't worry you will get good warning of my visit and when I come we can always talk alternative sources of TV entertainmemt for you ))

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
28/06/2009 19:23

Hmm if that were only a fact..



mmmmmmmmmm it is a fact i have mine took 2 years to get. but i have it .



we haven't been ABLE to come - as only one of us might be allowed back to the UK ;)



wonder why