legal or illegal senseble comments please

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 23:04

An english person working in karsiyaka,pool cleaning/garden maintaining.Upper karsiyaka,kofali homes,9 villas in a row,used to live in lapta and do the same thing.What do you mainly british people/expats think about this.Sensible comments would appricieted.Iam sure quiet few people would know this person specialy living around lapta/karsiyaka

Jetski


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 584

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 23:10

Errrrrr...... what exactly are you getting at yorgozlu? A little clarity may encourage some informative replies?

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 23:15

Yorgozlu, Are you the pool cleaning/garden maintaining person?

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 23:17

If he has a legal company and provides a good service and is breaking no laws I don't have a problem with this.

As I mentioned in a previous post Yorgozlu do you have a problem with British people in general and no I am not trying to be smart or sarcastic I am really interested. If so perhaps we could talk about it and the other problem I have is in understanding why you are on this forum if you do in fact have a problem with British people or any foreigners for that matter. I take it you are a Turkish Cypriot .



Chris

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 23:50

Actually might be both refreshing and interesting to hear the views of a Turkish man who having spent 23 years in the UK, now lives in NC. Certainly give a different perspective. We might learn a lot.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 23:59

I Guess my comment is i think nothing of it......But if you are after his work....go and get it. and good luck to whoever.

????????????????



Stop all the White Vans....



Hector.good point.



Spider,X

Dixie Normus


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 820

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 00:27

Will always be a opening for illegal work here while locals constantly rippoff, overcharge and produce shoddy work, as often said, Bangladesh service for Swedish prices, either buck your ideas up or swim in the sea of crap you've swam in for years. Your out of touch, out on price and been bailed out for to long to be in the real world. The dream is to be of European quality, the reality is a bunch of racist self centered corrupt protectionists telling the world they are hard done by, get a grip, wake up before the Greeks have you licking their boots again.



D.N

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 00:38

DN steady on !!

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 06:18

If he is working Legally and pays his taxes there is no problem , if he is'nt legally employed then he should not be working .

Simbas

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 07:57

DN,I like to be open minded and say it how it is,no going round the bushes,like your comments.No I dont have a problem with anyone working,no I dont work,and no I'm not after nobodys work.Wright or wrong was the question!!!As far as "bangaldesh service for swedish prices"are concerned ,YOU CAN ALWAYS PACK YOUR BAGS AND BUGGER OFF.

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:05

Well done yorozlu...I think DN fell into that one!

mixie

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:07

No Britvic I'm neither,just making a point about if I can also get this jobs ,but so far no luck.Perhaps because I'm not ENGLISH.I did not come back to my country to work,I came here to enjoy,and enjoying is what I'm doing as well as trying to get some fucts right

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:12

Right kids it's "be nice to each other day" you only have to do it for another 13hrs and 48mins

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:14

Nurseawful,its not "NICE OR HORRIBLE",its" WRIGHT OR WRONG"

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:17

Ok Yorgozlu

Lets be RIGHT nice for the remaining time.

Hope you have a wonderful day.



SMILE AND THE WORLD SMILES WITH YOU.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:25

I cant Nurseawful,my upbringing dpes not allow me to rest until THE FUCTS ARE SETTLED.Hope you also have a wonderful day.But if anyone is interested giving this guy more illegal work,please get in touch with me .I know his name ,surname,fone no,even car reg no

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:36

Hi Yorgozlu , if you have a problem with this person , then surely you should be approaching him directly to discuss your concerns .

Regards , Simbas

pinkchilli


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 689

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:36

Yorgozlu. Why not just report him?



Then if nothing is done, let the papers know that the authorities do not care who works illegally.



Many people have told me that the "Charlies" (UK Cypriots) are regarded by the local TC's as traitors/cowards.



Have you found this to be true, and why? (Just curious).



Best regards



PC

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:47

Dear pinkchilli,I wouldnt worry about "charlies"couse they know what it takes to earn the living,its mainly the local ones that see us as pound notes.As for REPORTING" him,WHY GIVE HIM JOB in the first place.If I employed an illegal person in uk I was facing £5000 fine,POINT?

pinkchilli


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 689

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 08:56

I understand how you feel.



But I remember years ago in the UK, the then Prime Minister was asked "do you get a receipt from your window cleaner?"



The PM laughed and gave the impression that you cannot stop the black economy.



Also, if you wanted something simple like a bit of gardening done (only weeding) would you pay 8TL per hour cash in hand, or 20TL through a registered company?



I do not work and I would never take the risk of being deported. The TC's are our hosts. Too many Brits only want a Little Britain. They moan even now about all the foreigners in the UK, even though they have left.



Do you remember when the Police were "checking" Brit registered cars?



Many Governments understand that there is a black economy, both Brits and TC's work without paying tax, but there is no real mileage in chasing these people. Governments would get bigger rewards for cathching advocats who rake in millions of undeclared fees.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 09:04

yeh yorgozlu , i can see where you are coming from . But you know , how many times have you called out a tradesman in the uk and he says to you , if you pay cash it will be cheaper , is this not along the same lines ? and why give him the job ? because he is cheaper !! you could say he is working illegally . So we the public should not employ him either ! does that make sense

Regards , Simbas

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 09:21

Simbas,you are missing the point,doing a job on the side every now and then and working completly illegal are two different things,and with your comments you are telling them to curry on.And with all due respect ,if this person was to do it quietly,chances are no one would have noticed,but he is slagging off locals to brits to get their jobs,just because they cant speak english when it should be the other way round"english not speaking TURKISH

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 09:24

PINKCHILLE,i CLEAN MY OWN POOL AND i MAINTAIN MY OWN GARDEN

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 09:25

Britvic,I'm a pool cleaner and yes I'm a garden maintainer,MY OWN

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 09:44

Hi Yorgozlu , sorry , perhaps i did not explain myself properly , most definately i do not condone working illegally in any shape or form , it is an insult to all law abiding workers in my opinion . i posed a question " why give him the job " and answered it " because he is cheaper " this is generally speaking , not my sentiments

Regards , simbas

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 10:05

Yorgozlu..... "No Britvic I'm neither,just making a point about if I can also get this jobs ,but so far no luck.Perhaps because I'm not ENGLISH.I did not come back to my country to work,I came here to enjoy,and enjoying is what I'm doing as well as trying to get some fucts right".



What's your problem? You say you want to "get this jobs but no luck", but also said you didn't return to work. You sound very confused. Do you want to work or not? If you don't like what you see, stop moaning about it on here, get off your backside and report it.



It appears to me that your problem lies with the fact (not fuct) that this person is, (as highlighted by you) .... ENGLISH. For whatever reason (only known to you), that issue alone appears to be the MAIN crux of your difficulty.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 10:27

There are many ppl working illegally here and always will be I guess.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 10:31

But sadly it is everywhere , very frustrating for all legal workers eh !

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 12:55

taraspring,dont redirect the subject,my english isnt perfect,that ,sfact(fuct)1,I dont work,thats fact(fuct)2,and I'm not confused,thats fact(fuct )3.The issue is neither,so YOU GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND THEN SPEAK.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 12:56

For all forum members;every job I advertised has been for my friends,and you dont speak their language,sadly

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 13:54

yorgozlu i use a tc electrician called 888888888 and he is one of the nicest and proffesional electricians you could

meet. he doesnt speak english but with my pidgeon turkish and knowledge of diy we manage.

He doesnt issue a fatura unless asked so i presume he is doing cash in hand as do all self employed people in the world.

I would not dream of reporting him to the authorities and at the end of the day black economy monies go back into the trnc for shopkeepers petrol stations etc rather then to corrupt authorities.



What should stop in my opinion is the spending of monies into the south i dont blame anyone for shopping south but wish we would support thr trnc economy even if its sometimes dearer or you cant get the goods.

our local shopkeeper is more then willing to try and get on the shelves goods that are requested by ex pats and he does.

ps how do you know the guy in lapta doesnt have a work permit unless you have asked him

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 14:02

dont forget that the people who are doing so called black economy are also providing builders estate agents

advocates with large sums of money for housing etc keeping pool and garden supply companies going plus all the furniture stores etc



it doesnt make it right but with out them trnc economy would be even worse then it is now.



anyway who really loves the tax man!!!

ps before you ask i am retired i do my own pool and my neighbours who has cancer and cant do it

and that it

Pogle


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 1536

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 14:26

Post 12:"I came here to enjoy,and enjoying is what I'm doing"...........................??



Yorgulzu, your supersleuth activities seem to be making you very angry, it is not good for your health. Do what you came here to do, enjoy your beautiful country and your delightful ever smiling countrymen. Don't torture yourself with the fucts, you will have no peace.



PS: We occasionally need an electrician but you would have to calm down, don't want you blowing any fuses!

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 14:58

I have frequently been seen doing my neighbours gardens (in UK). I have supplied flag stones, tools and materials and also used them to do their gardens and mend their fences. I have redesigned some of the layouts and laid paths - l live in a bungalow, surrounded by many other bungalows which house the elderly, infirm and disabled - I charge nothing!!!

Don't judge by what you see, it may not be what you think it is. If in doubt - ASK!!!

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 15:05

excellent point katymackem



couldnt agree more thats why charitable people do what they do



and the world is a happier place for them

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 15:35

Zorgozlo...."taraspring,dont redirect the subject,my english isnt perfect,that ,sfact(fuct)1,I dont work,thats fact(fuct)2,and I'm not confused,thats fact(fuct )3.The issue is neither,so YOU GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND THEN SPE"



My observations (not facts) are "spot on" Mr Z, and, are taken from your own postings.



1. Yes, your English is sadly lacking and for someone who has spent 23 years in the UK that is surprising.

2. Reviewing all of your posts, you appear to contradict yourself as to whether you want to work or not? So I would say you were confused.

3. Mess 30 "For all forum members;every job I advertised has been for my friends,and you dont speak their language,sadly", This, coupled with postings in a similar vein such as Mess 10 "YOU CAN ALWAYS PACK YOUR BAGS AND BUGGER OFF" are openly discriminatory, and speak volumes as to your lack of insight in offending this audience who in the main are, as you put it.... "ENGLISH".



I have the measure of people like you Mr Z

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 15:49

Msg 10, or get a Brit to do it properly, Savvy.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 15:52

taraspring although on the whole turkish cypriots are very friendly and make you welcome we have noticed how discriminatory they are to black people and asian people our builder actually enjoyed riding a guy off the road on his bike with much hooting and guffawing



i was very embarassed and disgusted and cant tell you what he said when confronting him with what he had just done.

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 16:01

Msg 30 what was the main language spoken on the Island pre 74 ? I think you'll find nearly everyone could speak English even then. Enlish has been spoken here since Richard the Lionheart was visiting.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 16:03

hurrah for richard they dont make em like him anymore



even dutchy would have to agree

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 16:22

Cyprusairsoft, and also exhibit the same behaviour to Turkish mainlanders too.



What is that favourite TC's derogatory name for mainlanders??? Black-beard! Karasakal.............

Have witnessed that discrimination also.



Sadly, I would imagine there are a lot of "closet" Mr Z's if the truth was known.



IMO - If it is forbidden on this forum to discuss the legalities of TRNC, then by the same token it should also be forbidden to post blatent racist comments such as those we have had to endure from the likes of Mr Z! It's my view rule 3 should be appropriately amended!

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:22

SO, ANYONE HAS THE GUTS TO GO AND ASK THIS ENGLISH PERSON WEATHER HE IS LEGAL OR ILLEGAL.TO ALL:LEARN THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OR SHUT UP.WITH NO KNOLEDGE YOU MIGHT AS WELL FART,IT WILL MAKE SAME SOUND

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:23

I ALREADY KNOW HE IS ILLEGAL ,BUT BY THE SOUND OF IT ,SO IS EVERYONE ELSE(BRITS)

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:25

HE DOESNT EVEN GO TO BED WITH HIS WIFE UNLESS HE PAYS HIM,NEVER MIND DOING WORKS AS A FAVOUR

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:25

NEXT ONE ON THE LINE PLEASE.I CAN HANDLE ALL OF YOU AT ONCE IF NEED BE

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:29

taraspring,mes41:when the going gets tough,the tough gets going.thats typical of brits,I know couse I spent long enough time there

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:29

............................Is it just me who's lost here?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:32

sorry Britvic,my comments was only for the once whom are willing to follow the same line as this guy I'm talking about

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:39

Britvic I think Mr Z lost the plot years ago by the sound of his ravings.

White van required?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:42

Who is Mr z ,Mr T,OR HAVE YOU GOT A BAD EYE SIGHT AS WELL

teatime


Joined: 20/10/2008
Posts: 852

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:42

So yorgozlu, you've made enough money out of Britain to enable you to retire at 45 and now you seem to be so anti British it makes one question why the hell you stayed there so long. Shame you didn't make more effort in learning the language better whilst you were there then we might be able to understand at least half of what you are on about.

I've promised nurseawful that I'll be nice today, so I won't go on anymore!

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:44

He makes a mockery of his own thread "senseble comments please"!!



You just have to laugh.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:45

TEATIME:Ben 50 yil sonra senin konusabilecegin turkce den daha guzek ingilizce konusurum,cunku ben sizler gibi hazira aliskin degilim

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:46

I think Mr yorgozlu needs to chill out man !!!! are you relly in that much need of money ?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:46

taraspring,I should've known better that there is no sense you guys

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:49

tattlad:I can take 10 of the likes of you uot my each pocket,couse I worked very hard for it,not used to sponging

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:53

To work illegally is illegal. To do business without issuing proper receipts is illegal. If you have knowledge of ANYONE doing ANYTHING illegal it is up to YOU to ask yourself; "Can I condone this action?" If the answer is YES then you need do nothing. If the answer is NO then it is up to YOU, as the individual, to report your knowledge to the relevent authorities.

When I worked in the TRNC I was doing so legally. Part of my duties was to collect monies from business. In total there were 50 companies I dealt with. 22 NEVER had FATURA's (Invoices) and MAKBUZ (Receipt) issued and I collected personal cheques or cash from them. They knew what they were doing. By no Invoice their bill was 16% cheaper.

I ask myself the question, "Do I condone the actions of these companies?" The answer was YES because they kept me in a job, regardless of the fact I knew they were acting illegally. Therefore I never reported them, even after I left the TRNC.

So yorgozlu....Can you condone this person?

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 18:54

Thank you for pointing out my poor eyesight Mr X, Y or Z, or whatever your name is.???

I shall make sure I visit my local specsavers tomorrow.



Clearly you were in no doubt as to whom my posts were referring to eh?

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:04

hI yorgozlu....can i just say that you asked,something...have got no where...as sometimes in life this happens.we cant always find the answer to everything...Did you hope in some way,that moving here would be less like living back in the U.K...Well Hay its not even that much cheaper,and yes Taxes do get paid.....and people work for friends,as in the Turkish community too,you help me,and i will help you..etc..etc...

Perhaps you should log off this Thread..and let be no longer a Thread....thats just the way to play at it..sometimes.its just not worth it....



I wish you all the very best in all you do.work wise,or just relaxing....



Spider.X P.S.people do just love to take the P*** .and if you keep watching how the Thread is going.its not worth it.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:07

TimotyCadman:NO

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:10

Mr yorgoslu, remember while you are lambasting the British you are lambasting the same people that turned a blind eye to all the TC students who were working illegally while studying in the UK. if this reason you are complaining is causing you to fail to get work/money then fair enough, otherwise just rummage through your memory banks for the time you spent in the UK, I'm sure you'll find recompense.

teatime


Joined: 20/10/2008
Posts: 852

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:12

Message 53: Just about shows your ignorance mr y, doesn't it?

rocking


Joined: 05/11/2008
Posts: 421

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:17

If someone cleans a pool for a friend whilst away or does a bit of gardening for them, all well and good, probably gets taken out for a meal, but I think when they develop pool cleaning or gardening as a business in TRNC and do not pay taxes or insurance, I think it is wrong. Some will argue that in UK people go in and claim this and that, but two wrongs do not make a right - I think it is an absolute liberty that there are some living here who are claiming disability in the UK and other subsidies and answer 'well we paid in for it' - no, some of these people who claim are too young to have paid in the amount they are claiming.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:17

Spider:thank you four SENSEABLE comments,unfortunatly you are right.This thread has been taken to where the individuals had wanted it to go.I have done my window shopping and I will prove this to everyone just to prove my point,but initialy that was not the intention.I AM A NATIONALIST IN EVERYWHERE.only two facts in my book:WRONG OR WRIGHT,nothing in between

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:18

tattlad:SINCE WHEN 2 WRONGS MADE 1 WRIGHT?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:21

mes62,no teatime,it just shows that I can also speak the local language

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:23

sorry rocking,I answered mes 61 before reading yours,they are practicaly same

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:26

Msg 65, if it so much of a bad thing for you go and confront the bloke man to man and tell him exactly what's on your mind, but if the people he is working for want him to work for them, then maybe free trade should be allowed, shouldn't it ? as another poster had said TC's tend to stick together, so does any other country's peole on the planet, why not Brit's then eh ?

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 19:27

Your profile shows your age as 45 .. You say your'e retired .. How diid you make your money .. Legally of course .. I had to work till 65 ..

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 21:22

Then yorgozlu you know your duty.

I suggest that you visit the Workers Office on the 'High Street' in Girne tomorrow morning and ask to see one of the directors and make your sworn statement.

They will act upon your information (I know a friend of mine was dobbed in), and will make a visit to this person where they will advise him what he needs to do to work legally, or arrest him and deport him, or arrest him and put him in the Central Prison in Lefkosa.

We look forward to your post tomorrow naming this person and taking the credit for removing one illegal worker from the black market.

If you are the honourable Turkish Cypriot that you say you are then you know it is your DUTY to report this man. It is yours, and only your responsibility to see that all CRIMINALS are dealt with by the letter of the law.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 21:40

bit of a deep thread now

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 21:54

Rocking ..careful about what you say about claiming benefits whilst living in TRNC, THE "i have paid allmy life" BRIGADE will be sharpening their knives as I write...

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/07/2009 22:13

harita:by working 16-17 hours aday

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
04/07/2009

Coachie .. Get back in the cheese there's a maggot missing ..











Ps , that really was not called for , if you don't like the post , don't read it ------ Simbas

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 00:08

Harita message 74, Uncalled for!



Vicki

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 00:14

Vicki .. Read his post .. I am one of the "i have paid allmy life" BRIGADE & resent all the comments he makes about this subject .. When you reach the age of 65 you only get what you are due .. Nothing more, nothing less

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 01:03

I am appalled at the comments of some of the "Brits"on this forum!!

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 01:15

Harita, Coachie was responding to this post message 63:" If someone cleans a pool for a friend whilst away or does a bit of gardening for them, all well and good, probably gets taken out for a meal, but I think when they develop pool cleaning or gardening as a business in TRNC and do not pay taxes or insurance, I think it is wrong. Some will argue that in UK people go in and claim this and that, but two wrongs do not make a right - I think it is an absolute liberty that there are some living here who are claiming disability in the UK and other subsidies and answer 'well we paid in for it' - no, some of these people who claim are too young to have paid in the amount they are claiming."

My neighbour in NC looks after my pool,House, and garden for no charge, we do however pay in kind with meals and wherever we can help out while their. Where exactly is coachie being wrong?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 06:38

Britvic,I also have a neighbour that I look after their pool,house and garden for no charge.They used to pay somebody to do it all,but with no knowledge to know what he was doing,so they asked me if I could, so I do it for them(and they are English)So,I dont have a problem with english,nor I have a problem with someone working legaly and doing jobs on the side every now and then(as wrong as it is),but to do it completly illegal and knocking off the locals to get their jobs is my big issue.I know he doesnt have work permit,becausewith permit he can only work for someone.Even a person from turkey need permit and they are turkish,and they mostly work for minimum wage.So why should it be different for any other foreighner.

pinkchilli


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 689

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 07:54

So, to sum it up:



This British guy slags off TC's to get more work for himself and works without a permit.



It is wrong. If you want, give me his details and I will report him. He is giving the British a very bad name. It should stop.



I think nearly every sane person, regardless of race would agree with you.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 08:09

BIG THANK YOU,to you pinkchilli,I have finaly found somebody that understands where I'm coming from

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 08:15

my fone no:05338739181,if anyone wants to anything you can ring me from this no,thanks to all for responding

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 10:32

This thread is hilarious.. I REALLY hope for a settlement - and TR in the EU..no more need for work/residency permits, blood tests, ptp ( unless you're a GC , I suppose...)

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 13:50

termite,I realy realy am sorry but I cant understand what you are saying,would you mind to write it in turkish?I promise,I would translate it as it is

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 13:53

mmmmmm,please dont redirect the subject

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 14:07

Mark

ref. message 83.



'This thread is hilarious..'



I must admit I had a quiet chuckle to myself also.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 14:15

well,what can I say,once a brit always a brit,if things dont go your way,its either "whatever"or "ha ha ha that was hilarius".I REST MY CASE,YOU HAVE SUMMED UP WHAT WAS MY THOUGHT FOR YOU

Tinkie


Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 15:17

Sorry Yorgozlu, once a brit, always a brit??? Why on earth did you spend so long in UK if you have such a poor opinion of us? You are very quick to to try to tar us all with the same brush, I doubt if it was such an issue for you whilst you were making use of the advantages of living in the UK, the NHS service for example. I am married to a Cypriot I work legally. Am I entitled to the same benefits in Cyprus as a tax payer, as you were in the UK as a tax payer?....mmm, I think not. If you have a problem with this guy then have the nerve to go and say it to his face, I would be very suprised if you didnt know a single TC in UK who hadnt done a bit of cash in hand stuff at the expense of the UK tax payer.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 15:51

mmmmmmmmmm twice now we have agreed on something i must be going soft in my old age



think its time that this thread was ended reporting someone is not the answer what if he has family to feed and perhaps he has tried for a permit better this guy spends his dosh in trnc and not have those flaming greeks back



your choice yorgozlu

can i ask a simple question do you or dont you like brits appreciate an honest answer

mrjim



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 78

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 16:28

I don't think yorgozlu likes anyone or anything victor meldrew springs to mind

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 16:31

cyprusairsoft:dont want to put names but few members on this forum I noticed "inteligent"and perhaps also "educated" have come up with rather silly and stupid comments,is whats redirecting the issue out of its actual point.Thats why my comments been towards that way also.No I dont dislike brits.I have my own opinions towards brits,(like expecting every nation to speak english,even when they live there.)But, this isnt about brits ather then the fact that this guy happens to be one.Had he not been brit,there'd have been no point whatsoever putting this thread on forum.the questin you all need to ask yourselves,"would you have liked it,if I was doing the same thing in uk,in same sircumstances.No he doesnt have a family,yes I've confronted him,but all the while you employ him,he will carry on.

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 16:39

with attitude like yours and once like you Mr jim,are you surprised?

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 16:58

yorgozlu

I would seriously suggest that you move to the UK, that way you will get a house, benefit payments, free health care and you will not feel the need to whinge about 'Brits' taking work away from you. Give it a try you might be pleasantly surprised.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 18:37

yorgozlu i dont employ him. and its a well known fact that english is widespread and taught all around the globe as an international language.

we cant help that as a nation, blame the people in government.



think me and you should go out and have a glass of what ever you fancy and try and knock down this barrier you have and see that we are not all bad.

i can see your point of view re this chap but lifes to short make friends not war what do you say?

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 01:07

absolutely Termite

Remember the old saying

LIVE AND LET LIVE!!!!!!

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 01:10

Mr Spider is going to paint our house.....in this heat..you bet,





Spider,X

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 02:44

Message 94 - what planet are you from??

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 05:43

cyprusairsoft:Thank you for being understanding and kind.I'd like to meet up,perhaps I might be able to explain myself better without others disturbing the subject with their stupid comments

groomer


Joined: 06/07/2009
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
06/07/2009 21:38

yorgozulo you sound just like some1 we come across in maidstone,wondering if its the same guy,whos girlfriend was on all the benefits,whilst you were living with her & her children before you all left to live in the trnc lucky you,whoever this man is youve got it in 444444,why dont you get a life & let him live his,after all if u are the same guy we are talking about,he is not taking nothing off the turkish goverment,like you did in england all the best uk.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
06/07/2009 21:45

before we go any further,be brave enough to expose yourself on your profile.Unles ofcourse you arent brave enough .

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
06/07/2009 21:49

by the way all,as much as I live in cyprus,I still pay tax in uk.Just in case anyone is wandering

groomer


Joined: 06/07/2009
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 08:07

well well yogi,oops sorry spelling a bit rough like yours.

forgot to say earlier,how comes your telling other posts to go find this man,im begining to have flash backs about you (BULLY SPRINGS TO MIND) if moving to the trnc means i have to put up with people like you glad i dont live there,

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 08:26

If trying to protect poor peoples bread from being taken out of their mouth makes me a BULLY,Mr.HIDINGBEHINDBUSHES,so be it

Bladerunner


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 204

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 09:28

Correct me if i am wrong dont the brits run charity events to help poor turkish children and familys in need also dont they run the animal rescue and dont they give blood to help turkish people.ect .ect.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 10:58

Perhaps when every bar/shop/beledeysi/restaurant/taxi stop ripping off British people there will be no need for them to take work from other people. Or perhaps you would prefer it if we all went back to the UK, imagine the restaurants etc without British people in them, how many TC,s do you think would be out of work then. There is a saying in English, you can,t have your cake and eat it too.

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 12:21

Bladerunner:I dont wish to paint everyone with same brush,as one of the members mentioned.Wrong will always be wrong.

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 12:32

hattikins:Your comments include myself as well.Remember that I'm also a brit(as well as cypriot).May be you need to turn the tables around and imagine this happening in uk.How would you have liked it?But as far as being ripped off is concerned,I'm not on a different plate then yourselves.I have no securyty,no pension,no health care,etc... But none of those give me the right to be like the person mentioned.

hattikins


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Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 12:42

As many others have said, if you have a problem with this person either sort it out face to face, report him, or shut up about it, but whinging on this board won,t sort anything out.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 12:49

yorgozlu.....just a little tip...Why on earth are you letting this Man,and this Thread.and comments made LIVE in your HEAD..RENT free.....thats a little saying when something bugs you,or bothers you too much...Let it go.!! give yourself some peace of mind...Nothing stays in my Head Rent Free,to bother me,life it much to short,and we should live every moment as best we can..and i for one would much rather remain happy,and content,even with (my lot.) if you know whats right,and wrong,and behave as such..thats great...we have to understand not everyone is like this...and we have to respect Live.and let live...each and every living soul,is doing whatever he/she wants,how,and when they like,or want...your not going to change this Man..Time to accept the situation,if your not going to do anything about it.!! and accept the things in life that you cannot change...change is to stop making this Thread so improtant to you every day...enjoy what you have,and what is around you...smile all day,

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 12:51

If you look up to see hattikins,I'm only commenting after someone.I f you all shut up and not commented,this thread wouldnt have gone as long as it has.As far as reporting him"I'm not a grass" as far as coonfronting him "I have".Unfortunatly,you keep employing him is why he carrys on

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 12:53

Wise words Spider !

Simbas

spider


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Message Posted:
07/07/2009 12:53

Wow i didnt know one runs out of typing time...





have a nice day yorgozlu...we are all on this earth to learn.enjoy,and love.





Spider,X

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 12:59

Hi Yorgozlo , it's true what Spider Says , the only person you are hurting is yourself , he's really not worth worrying over , you have your principles and most of us agree with them , but then you are always gonna have people who have none , but thats how it is !

Leave it go Yorgozlo , regards ,simbas

groomer


Joined: 06/07/2009
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 13:24

ah so it is you,didnt know you have to pay taxes on social security,unless of course you have stopped sponging off the uk goverment!!!!!!!!!!!!! need i say anymore at least from whatever that bloke is doing out there in your COUNTRY he is no sponger. to the bloke in question,if he finds this thread ,interesting & laughable, good luck mate, in helping your fellow brits FROM MR SAYITASITIS!!!!!!!

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 15:41

Little correction required MR SAYITASITIS!!!!! I am the one that one of you grassed up my girlfriend then,wife now,after 3 weeks of going out with me,just because I had job,money ,etc...So as far as sponging is concerened"I wouldnt know " but as far as "taking another 3 people of gov.shoulders "YES THATS ME" Mrnotmanenough

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 15:44

spider,simbas,and all other members:thank you for understanding me ,no more comments from me

mrjim



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Posts: 78

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 16:56

I don't believe it no more comments

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 17:26

mrjim................ I am sure yorglzlu is a man of his word,SO GIVE UP......AND THE REST OF YOU,...





Spider,X

groomer


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Message Posted:
07/07/2009 18:25

it takes a grass to know a grass,after all hypocrite,u r the weakest link GOODBYE















pn , as a new member your posts are being monitered --------- Simbas

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 18:26

Spider thats a very profound message. I really dont know what this thread is all about and Im not going to read through but just to let you know how deep I thought your message was. See you soon xxx

Jetski


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Posts: 584

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 18:40

Will someone please close this thread? It's getting personal.

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
07/07/2009 19:29

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was serving no purpose.