Given the situation am i throwing good money after bad????

lazza1


Joined: 14/03/2009
Posts: 14

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 13:03

Hi All. I originally came over to complete on my apartment on Turquiose Bay and fell in love with the place and bought a villa with beautiful views to sea. The villa has no pool and i am having a dilemna as to whether to put a beautiful infinity one in given the Oram case.....am I throwing good money after bad???



Excuse my ignorance. I like many others I think are confused with the situation.



I have heard that there is another hearing in Sep/Oct so am i better waiting for the outcome of that?



Is the situation such a mess that no matter what the outcome this will drag on for years??



Given the complexities and the fact Turks have lost their land in the South surely compensation is the best answer and is that most likely to be adopted?? Does Larnaca really sit on Turkish land??



Thanks you all very much for your views on this.

sporty


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 685

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 13:56

Hi Lazza! I've decided to purchase a place,we complete soon and have already sent half of our money over,even with everything thats going on presently. Only my opinion but i just cant see it being sorted out any time soon.If there is a settlement i would hope it will be on a compensation package,if i were you i would have your pool and enjoy it.Lifes too short to worry about things that you have no control over,i cant ever see 1000's upon 1000's of GC'S going north and TC'S going south to live? a generation has passed also in the process!

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 14:07

We have been here almost 5 years living permenantly, would not change a thing, no regrets. And as for the pool wouldn't be without it even though a pain in the neck in the winter.

You die if you worry and you die if you don't ! So enjoy life and don't wait to say at a later date ,if only I had done this or that.

mamachina


Joined: 22/11/2008
Posts: 730

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 14:07

We also decided to bite the bullet - and bought - working on the principle that at the rate things move/are moving we may well be long dead by the time they decide "they" want our land back!! - cant have the house it wasnt there before! We enjoy life here and intend to continue enjoying it as long as we can. If it did come to a court case that would also go on for years and years as we wouldnt be the only ones!! Politcal expediency reigns.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 14:43

I can't help you to make up your mind, but I can build you a nice pool if you decide to go ahead.



Good luck



Vaughan

Octopus Pools

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 16:12

lazza1 you go for it , enjoy

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 16:19

You only live once!

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 20:48

everyone ignoring lostgeezers post?

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 20:57

lostgeezers is a scare monger who likes to believe what politicians and the press say or write. Build your pool and if you have property assets in the UK put them in a trust and nobody can touch you, well, unless the Greek army wishes to take on the Turkish one, and we all know who'd win that one!



Richard

clayton


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 21:18

what greek army

keithr


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 720

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 21:22

Pools are for Daily Mail readers.



They are are another money pit.



Why have one , the med is so close to you .....

Linus


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 21:26

Fraid the property in trust wouldn't help you mate. Checked all this out with numerous lawyers before I bought pre 74 property. Any court if they wish can overule any trust if they wish

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 21:31

DiamondGeezers mes5 ?



So how does the Foreign office know the outcome of the talks, how the hell do they know what is going to happen.



Just like you they spout crap and unknowns

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 23:18

I'd ask a good few residents about having a swimming pool before deciding. My friends have drained theirs due to the costs of water and electricity without the additional costs of chemicals and maintenance. As has been mentioned my friends found their pool was indeed a money pit. A pool has to be constantly monitored and looked after, bad enough if you are there all year round not great if you only visit.

rdsteve


Joined: 01/03/2009
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 23:30

Pools are only a money pit if you let it be one. Speak to Vaughan he seems to be the man to build you a pool got a good reputation, but have a cover for it to stop evaporation well up to 94% anyway. As some other people have said lifes to short and you might as well put your money in your pool where you can enjoy it. Remember your a long time dead and you can't take your moey with you so spend the kids inheritance..



Steve

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
16/07/2009 23:56

rdsteve, Thanks for all the usual cliches however, back to the initial question, yes build your pool. Beware of costs and only you know your budget, if you have one, but if money is least of your worries just proceed as you feel fit and comfortable. Do not worry about the Greeks, it'll never happen.



Richard

yunus



Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 327

Message Posted:
17/07/2009 02:34

dear lazza 1



if you have bought your property legally and according to trnc rules, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. let the governments sort it out and compensate each other accordingly. enjoy northern cyprus as the orams will be. you have bought a property which is legal to sell and buy in the trnc according to the trnc law. let the greek government speak to the trnc government who they do not recognise for their compensation. enjoy

Molly


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 299

Message Posted:
17/07/2009 09:40

You'll need to get permission!

charlotte55


Joined: 14/11/2008
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
17/07/2009 09:47

QUESTION quote



is the situation such a mess that no matter what the outcome this will drag on for years?? .... Answer Yes



Go for it anyway ........................its a great place !!!!!!

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
17/07/2009 17:52

So how does the Foreign office know the outcome of the talks, how the hell do they know what is going to happen.

Just like you they spout crap and unknowns







Are you honestly saying that the home office/british governments advice is crap and should be ignored?

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
17/07/2009 18:03

trnc vaughan is your man for a pool dont let a turk build it or it will leak like a sive and then u will be throwing your money away as far as buying here goes dont worry your safe especially on the bigger complexes

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
17/07/2009 21:54

Dear Lazza1

re msg 1



No-one can answer this question ... you have already "bitten the bullet" - and if you feel confident the place will be completed ..



LostGeezer isn't wrong to point out the Foreign and Commonwealth advice - just too late... IF you bought on non recognised ( internationally) "deeded title".



The GCs are holding out for restitution - handing back of the land seized - and you'll hear folk hear saying - because it is a long time ago - it won't happen. They MIGHT be right ... but the European Court of Human Rights have told us that if the GC owned it - he still does..



When TR has offered compensation, at the ECHR, the GCs have only accepted compo for "loss of use"..



ONLY a settlement can sort this out - things staying as they are - means cheap prices - BECAUSE of the uncertainty..



You have already thrown the dice.. might as well finish the game... ;)

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
18/07/2009 16:41

Budget for about GBP100 pcm for a pool!

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
18/07/2009 16:46

turks will be here until hell freezes over



sod the greeks

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
18/07/2009 18:47

Msg21 harryroberts, I merely suggest that the FO simply do not know what the outcome of this situation will be you never know the outcome could be positive for the TRNC !



The FO are just like you and your band of grim reapers..................you know absolutely Jack S**t

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
18/07/2009 22:28

It's your choice ignore what anybody says they will still be arguing over the issue in 50 years. It's getting boring why don't people just enjoy he TRNC and deal with it when and if it happens.............

Stewart


Joined: 19/07/2008
Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
19/07/2009 09:15

With the Orams case, they have a problem because they have other property in the uk.



If they did not, they would not be in this situation...think on.

stingrayno1


Joined: 03/02/2009
Posts: 58

Message Posted:
19/07/2009 09:28

reg post 102 lostgeezer.ive been monitering your posts and you are saying nothing positive about anything in the trnc,you are obviously greek cypriot and have your own biased opinions.may i suggest as someone did on a different thread that if you havent something nice to say say nothing at all .

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
19/07/2009 13:43

The term "Carpetbaggers" relates to Northerners who travel South for gain !

I think LG (or whatever they call you these days) this is so far from the truth as all northerners want is to stay north and couldn,t care less what happens south.



You could also fit in the "Carpetbagger" category LG as you also took advantage of cheap property in the North at someone elses expense so leave the higher moral ground on this one....eh

stingrayno1


Joined: 03/02/2009
Posts: 58

Message Posted:
19/07/2009 17:55

lostgeezer,i actually have a good life here in the trnc.you live in the uk do you eh ....poor ba***rd.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
19/07/2009 18:06

harryroberts



'Are you honestly saying that the home office/british governments advice is crap and should be ignored?'



You must be the only one that has any faith in the British Government.

AJ

stingrayno1


Joined: 03/02/2009
Posts: 58

Message Posted:
19/07/2009 18:08

lostgeezer i see you have lost a lot of money through trying to by in the trnc and it all going pearshaped for you but never mind ,my advice to you is leave the forum alone and try to get on with your life.this hatred inside will do you no good and will only make you ill.bless.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
19/07/2009 18:08

lostgeezer



Not your boring ill informed rhetoric yet again! I do have the solution for all your problems, as your name suggests, a one way journey to Rotorua, NZ and throw yourself into Waimungu Geyser and you will be truly lost!



Richard

milti2


Joined: 19/07/2009
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
19/07/2009 23:44

Is this how you feel mate , Lost ? Or a loser !!

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
20/07/2009 16:08

Now, Now, lets not get personal! We all have our own axe to grind.



Back on topic, I have spent decades doing my 'Due Diligence', taking 'Professional' or 'Government' advice.



I invested all my money into 'Blue Chip' investments with Equitable Life, Scottish Widows, Scottish Amicable, etc.



How much safer could you get!



Well,... they all lost most of my retirement fund with their Pensions, Funds, Endowments etc, etc.



By contrast, investing in NC Property seems a pretty safe bet!!!







p.s. A friend of mine recently lost £30,000 in a property scam in,....



South Cyprus!



So much for SC being in the EU! He has found there is no Company to sue and no way he has any protection against such fraud.





Happy I invested in NC?



Damn right I am!



Rob

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
21/07/2009 14:59

harryroberts

'Are you honestly saying that the home office/british governments advice is crap and should be ignored?'

You must be the only one that has any faith in the British Government.

AJ



yes i have got more faith in the british government more than i would have for any government in Cyprus Both north and south.



how many of you live in the north who have faith in the trnc government not many i suspect.

cornish



Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
21/07/2009 15:09

Something everyone seems to forget is that over 200,000 T.C. 's live in exchange/Esedger property. Does anyone really think that they will all be dispossessed?

harryroberts


Joined: 05/05/2009
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
21/07/2009 17:33

Something everyone seems to forget is that over 200,000 T.C. 's live in exchange/Esedger property. Does anyone really think that they will all be dispossessed?



no they wont but i dont think there will ever be a settlement allowing all turkish mainland settlers to stay.for the ones who do stay and live in so called exchange land there will be some sort of compensation agreement that will also apply to properties left by turkish cypriots in the south.



would the compensation also be paid by the government for properties occupied by non cypriots?



if there is no settlement which in my opinion seems likely then i can see hundreds if not thousands of orams type cases turning up at the british courts (if the recomendation of the european court is carried out by the uk courts)

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
21/07/2009 18:03

harryroberts

Sorry you are so bitter.

Dont know what will happen, and neither do you, so a bit early for you to get so excited over the thought of Orams type cases,Turks being sent home , discrimanatory compensation.

Why not wait till the final print ,then you lot can vote Yes or No as can the TC's and Turks ,without all this wishing for things to happen that more moderate people might not find necessary.

nilmoney


Joined: 29/12/2008
Posts: 122

Message Posted:
26/07/2009 00:33

so are you getting a pool or what!!!!!