How do I checkin with an electric guitar on pegusus flights?

poetryanne


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 14:41

My son wants to bring his guitar to cyprus on holidays.Is it very expensive to bring it and can it be carried onto the plane or do I have to check it in? (Pegusus)

I'd be grateful if anyone can help me as I'm debating whether he should if it costs me a fortune!

michelle3012


Joined: 07/11/2008
Posts: 578

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 16:10

Hi, Hope he has case for it! You would need to check it in as normal, and this would be part of you baggage allowance, then probably take it to the oversize bag deposit. If you are already up to your linit then you would need to pay for excess, the price is on there website.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 16:15

Have you not watched:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo







Rob

PaulW



Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 651

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 16:27

Rob



I was going to draw attention to this also, but didn't want to alarm the person!!!



Interestingly, heard on news today that United Airways business has been badly hit by the release of the record and bookings are way down



P

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 16:35

The funny (?) side of this story is that because United Airlines initially ignored his claim for a $3500 guitar, he came up with this video.



It has now had nearly 4m hits on UTube and the bad press has reduced United Airlines stock value by $180m!!









If only we could do this with KTHY!!



Rob

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 16:41

I would suggest a very robust hard case and plenty of fragile stickers attached, sometimes the likes of BA would allow guitars on as hand luggage and would then put them in the 'suit' cupboard down at the front of the plane. Others like CTA have allowed me on with a guitar in a soft case and have allocated an overhead locker and one of the cabin crew would stop others from putting their hand luggage into the same locker. But with all airlines check your guitar in via the 'Fragile' check in. I have also had my favourite guitar put into the hold with CTA and have never had a problem. Contact Pegasus direct to find out the best options.

AJ

flightholiday


Joined: 19/07/2007
Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 17:28

Abstracts from Pegasus T&C's today:

TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF CARRIAGE NOTIFICATION OF RESPONSIBILITY



In accordance with Turkish Civil Aviation Law number 2920 dated October 14 th 1983, this agreement is bound to the regulations and limitations stated in the Lahey Protocol of September 28 th 1955, which was signed as a result of the amalgamation of several regulations pertaining to international air carriage of the Warsaw Convention which was signed on October 12 th 1929 in Warsaw. This convention and protocol regulates and in many situations, limits, the carrier's responsibility in the event of the death or injury of a passenger, or lost or damaged baggage.



As long as a higher value has not been notified previously, or any additional costs paid, the loss, baggage is the responsibility of the carrier for domestic flight 15 KG and for International flight 20 KG who will pay compensation which is limited to $ 20 per kilo.



Cont.....

flightholiday


Joined: 19/07/2007
Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 17:31

Cont from Msg 7 .....



1. Rules and regulations that absolve or limit the carrier's responsibility are also to be applied in favor of the carrier's agencies, personnel and representatives.



2. The carrier agreement is subject to the general conditions of carriage as laid out in law no. 2920 and International Agreements attributed to the law, the regulations of this ticket, and the applicable fare tariffs.



3. The carrier's agencies, personnel and representatives have not been authorized to alter or remove any of these clauses.



4. The carrier undertakes the responsibility to carry passengers and baggage punctually. The carrier may change the destination shown on the ticket; the.......



**** From 25th October 2009, new baggage rules will apply on both domestic and international routes: You may carry one piece of baggage free of charge, but you will be required to pay a charge for carriage of the second piece of baggage even if it is withi ....... cont.

flightholiday


Joined: 19/07/2007
Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 17:32

Cont from Msg 8 .....



within the total permitted baggage allowance weight.



8. Registered baggage will be delivered to the person with the baggage coupon and baggage claim coupon. Passengers must inform the carrier of any damage caused to baggage during transportation. The notice must be given in writing as soon as the damage is seen. Should the baggage be delayed then the notice must be given to the carrier in writing either immediately or within the time frame specified by the relevant Law.



Pegasus Airlines reserves the right to change these terms and conditions at any time without notice or liability





The above extracts were up to date today



Tom

http://www.flightholiday.co.uk

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 18:09

hi

what about a sewing machine?

Smaller but heavier

mixie

flightholiday


Joined: 19/07/2007
Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 18:14

Similar would apply pack well mark and have handlesd as fragile and read the airlines nonditions - do not forget it could be trundled about quite a lot so protective foam may be wise inside the boxes. It is not very likely that "this way up" will work either!

Traveller0392


Joined: 21/03/2008
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 18:18

Hi poetryanne. . Forget the fact that it is a guitar. . . . Then you will check it in as a piece of luggage. . . Goes into the plane's cargo hold. . . . As part of your luggage. Simple. If you want to take it into the plane. . . . . Question is will it fit in the overhead locker? And will the person at check in let you do this? . . . . Who knows? . . . Simply solution, buy a flight case. . . . You can pick one up on ebay for less than 50 quid. Weighs about 16 kg's . . . Throw it in the plane's cargo hold. . . No arguement. . . . Ps i don't advise anyone to ship musical instruments in anything less than a case designed for the job. . . . . As for united airlines. . . . I bet they don't either. . . . Very funny. . . CTA brought my piano. . . Not a scratch. . . . Just write in Turkish . . . Handle with care. . . In Red letters. . . . Very large letters. . . .

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 19:35

My son took his acoustic guitar as cabin luggage with KHTY from Birmingham to Ercan last year no problem the put it down the front there's a wardrobe area where it was upright

no questions on the return from Ercan

Traveller0392


Joined: 21/03/2008
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 19:58

Assume the best. . . Expect the worst and you won't be disappointed. . . . In fact i wrapped my flight case in industrial bubble wrap. . . If you are reading this Steve, yes i still owe you beer. . . Ha ha . . . CTA cargo, . . Bless them. . . . DIKKAT KIRILACAK = fragile. . . . .

poetryanne


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 21:22

Thanks Rob! I had such a laugh and then had visions of what could be.Since I posted this I've been round a few guitar shops and they've told me unless I'm prepared to fork out about £90+ for a flightcase,then leave it at home.

poetryanne


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 21:22

well my son is only 15 but a great song writer and I write verse so watch this space and youtube if we do have any mishaps

poetryanne


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
23/07/2009 21:22

Thanks all of you for some good advice. I will be having second thoughts and trying to persaude my son to leave it at home.Fingers crossed.

cacebaby



Joined: 03/03/2009
Posts: 109

Message Posted:
24/07/2009 00:12

hi poetryanne i brought my 1956 fender strat over 8 moths ago as hand lug i had it in its case and was with me all the way so i cant see any probs

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
24/07/2009 01:21

The key words here are HOLIDAY and ELECTRIC

It would seem rather pointless to me to take an electric guitar on holiday without an amplifier to play it through which poses more logistical problems.

John

ingalill


Joined: 17/06/2009
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
24/07/2009 09:36

I will be carrying my acoustic guitar to NC soon. I havnet chose airlines yet. Either LOT from Warsaw to LCA or some TC or Turkish airlines to Ercan. I think I would take for sure my instrument as a cabin baggage. I saw few times in LOT airlines a passengers with guitars or violins in the case or soft bags. Crew were puting it to overhead slots or to the mentioned wardrobe in the front of aircraft. I dont know how it is with Turkish Airlines or TC airlines coz Im usually travelling to LCA when Im coming to NC.

poetryanne


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
24/07/2009 12:50

Hi there

What sort of case was it in and how did you present it at the checkin ....or not? I don't want to take it to the plane for them to say no because it doesn't fit in the overhead lockers.

poetryanne


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
24/07/2009 12:51

we have a house over there and a music system with which to plug it in

poetryanne


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
30/07/2009 15:09

I've had a reply at last from Pegusus to my query over carrying the guitar on board.Thought you might like to see their reply-



It is not possible to carry your musical instrument with you inside the cabin. You can carry it in the hold part of the aircraft together with other baggages as checked baggage. However, if accepted as checked baggage, Pegasus Airlines is not liable for the loss of, damage to or delay in delivery to a fragile or perishable items included in customers' baggage and your musical instrument with or without the knowledge of Pegasus Airlines. Therefore you may want to make special insurance to your instrument.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
30/07/2009 15:22

Anne



You could try sending Pegasus a copy of :



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo



Be nice to know if they give you a response!





Rob

flightholiday


Joined: 19/07/2007
Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
30/07/2009 15:35

Message 24 - a straight and open answer as I would expect also see msg 7 in this regard.



Msg 25 Rob - it would not even raise a smile 1] I'm sure they may have heard of it 2] They know that if someone did the same to them it would not cause more than a blip on their bookings

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
30/07/2009 15:58

Tom re msg 25



That's what United thought, until they lost over $180m in stock value.



Look how BA lost £10's m's in bookings after the Terminal 5 fiasco.



Airlines are not immune to bad press, it can often decimate them.



Sorry,.... playing 'Devils Advocate' here. I know you help a lot of people get good deals and I respect that. May yet use you myself,..... if you'll have me!



Rob

kelvin


Joined: 18/12/2008
Posts: 377

Message Posted:
30/07/2009 16:06

Message 18 Cacebaby.. If i had a 56 strat it would be with me all the time too. Im estimating £20k minimum..



Bloody nice guitar thou...

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
30/07/2009 16:41

kelvin



You couldn't handle it! You'ld just lovingly stroke it, not play it!



Rob

cacebaby



Joined: 03/03/2009
Posts: 109

Message Posted:
30/07/2009 16:56

thanks kelvin it is it feista red with a maple neck i also bought a vox ac 30 amp do you play ?

flightholiday


Joined: 19/07/2007
Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
30/07/2009 17:14

Rob Msg 26 - I know that but compare the size of the problem with the two major airlines and Pegasus - look at all the bad press that KTHY gets on here and it stops very few booking with them. No one is immune to bad press but some thrive on it like Ryan Air.



Why would I not want to help you? I am not so sure about the concept of having you in at least two of the slang concepts that come to mind.