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clarets



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It would appear there are one or two really pissed GC's on the "Dark side" forum.Just read the thead entitled Doctor Death.....its a reet rivetin read ! They appear to lack confidence in my bed side manner and have even threatened my poor lile' ol self with physical violence. Mlitiades appears to be the main aggressor and is "coming for me". I can barely contain my incontinence at the very thought !



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Ha ha ha classic post clarets...keep up the good work..irritating them



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They do appear a bit touchy.....wonder if their conscience was pricked with the mention of "genocide"?



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Crikey!!!!

What a nasty bunch they are! I certainly won't be joining that forum.



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Hi clarets, do you have a link onto this other site as I just do not seem to be able to get onto it.

If you are getting threats like that, all I can say is that they are 'running very scared' as when someone starts shouting and making those type of threats its a defence system to not want to face the truth!!

I had several threats of leg breaking, did I like my face, did I value my family, etc, because, I had become quite aggresive in marketing a product into supermarkets and small chain outlets. (1990s)Rise above them, take the p--s, keep your cool and above all keep being yourself.

These GC folks must realise that it was mostly, well all,their own fault, but, time has moved on and they will have to accept that Turkey is the dominant country on most aspects.

PS and I won the contracts!!!



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Dizzycows



Goto http://www.cyprus-forum.com scroll down to second block Politics>cyprus problem and its in there about 10 down at the mo!





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are you a fake doctor clarets??



you know how to pick a fight with the wrong person thats for sure.



cut him some slack he is actually a nice bloke.



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In my book anyone that threatens violence is not a 'nice' person.

AJ



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Clarets he has threatened quite a few folk on this forum. I actually had an e-mail but just ignored it. They are just sad little people who have to use bad language which incidentally is just lack of vocabulary!

Sticks and stones as my dad used to say.



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I know that I'll recieve some flack here FS but if that is what you think a nice bloke to be you were sadly missinformed. That is one of the most self opinionated stretch of comments I have ever seen.

I am no historian especially on the details of Cyprus but there is no smoke without fire and regardless of which story you decide to believe both sides were culpable but after reading that load of crap I feel almost guilty for setting foot on someones land and I don't even know who's.

Iain made some strong comments yes but instead of accepting that they are based on past recorded events they decide to threaten his future in UK/NC and his career as well as his families purely because they disagree with his comments.

Nice blokes don't do that and they don't suddenly state, he is not really a doctor in mid dispute and hang up.

I thought people could be bloody minded and rude on this Forum but my heart felt apologies go out to all on here after reading that, that means you DC



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Never been there before. Just took a peek.

Like a cage fight.

Probably just as well they stick to abuse on the keyboard.

I fear those sort of nasty people should stay locked up inside the safety of their rooms.

Bonjour



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Couldn't agree more Chegs, I found some comments to be amusing and others to be blatantly insulting to a whole race of people but the self proclaimed educated posters there seem to believe that they can and should have the only valid opinion. Would make an interesting political team one thinks.



I really enjoyed the comment about us beer bellied , uneducated, thieveing carpet baggers who lie about our employment credentials to impress fellow drunken thiefs, or something like that. I just don't remember when I met this guy but I must have if he knows me so well.



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"beer bellied, uneducated, thieveing carpet baggers who lie about our employment credentials to impress fellow drunken thiefs, or something like that. I just don't remember when I met this guy but I must have if he knows me so well."



Probably met us both on the same night and come to think of it most of my mates on the island as well.

Chegs



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Hi all just been in and had a peek..SICK.SICK,SICK...Please this Forum will not turn out like that one..sometimes i read the HEAVY Threads and think at times it may well..I just hope the Moderaters keep a good eye on things and keep this Forum in some sort of order that gives us some good reading..Both sides lost loved ones,land and property..as in all Wars its time that it was put to rest..and keep posting about it all will NEVER help..give it all a rest and for gods sake get on with TODAY..thats all we have..can we all not learn how to respect and love each other.





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I respect my wife and she says she loves me. Does that help Spider ???



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that got me on the floor laughing,me legs a going..thanks,, ))))







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All eight of them

Have you heard from DD, when is she back online



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I simply cannot comprehend the vehemence in their posts it's almost frightening ,they were ranting . I was also shocked when i read a post from P - Pike , he was rude , arrogant and downright nasty at times on here , but i could say that he never resorted to foul language , so reading his post came as a bit of a shock , i only hope his children never get to read his posts , hardly a role model for any child



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Clarets..looks like you have stirred up a hornets nest.!!!! But dont get too cnfident ,many a slip of the tongue has hung many people in the past...



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Yes Coachie, remember the posters "Loose lips sink ships!!!"



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suppose they gotta get it out of the system somehow had a long time to brew all this up and lets face it nothing is really going to change that will get them what they want which is everything back under greek rule



just aint gonna happen



my faith is in tc and turkey trust them more then british gov



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proger1 DD Back when she gets cash,or when i go get her,may do that soon.!!





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Thanks Spider



clarets



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Firestarted.......Miltiades certainly does not sound like a bloke I would want to have a drink with ! I will happily cut him some slack off the boat....in rough seas.



clarets



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Coachie.....you think I'm worried about his foul mouth.....you dont know me my friend.....I have friends at some very high altitudes...know what I mean?



clarets



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Firestarted.....the other thing I would add is.....impersonating a Doctor(real one....not a PhD) is a criminal offence in the UK.



clarets



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Proger1....well said mate!



clarets



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I would just like to say....many thanks, one and all for your support. I am so glad we have civilised debate on this forum and not the threats of violence and racist comments from that bigoted bunch south of Nicosia.



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The issue of property is always going to be a thorny one with many Greek Cypriots as they are the biggest loosers so far.



There are many decent Greek Cypriots and well as decent Turkish Cypriots lets not forget this. No doubt inevitably there will be some ordinary Greek Cypriots who will have lost there land in the North once a settlement whatever that is has been agreed. I for one dont think it is appropriate and in fact is very arrogant for some individuals not to respect what has happened to many ordinary Cypriot citizens of whatever ethnic background they come from.



It is lunacy and very judgemental to think that every Greek Cypriot wanted enosis or indeed wanted to kill every Turkish Cypriot. Lets not forget that there were also Greek Cypriots killed by there own who did not support the idealist ideas of some of the fanatics.



clarets



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OK Stuart....now very carefully remove your head from your rectum and QUIT the patronising comments....please look at the poisonous bull**** that has been posted and tell me "nice" GC's have done it......wakey,wakey....small the coffee and dont try to put words in other peoples mouth....second guessing is not one of your strengths.....Yes.....I CAN tell!



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Iain



On that forum you have hardly covered yourself in glory, your comments are there to see.



There are many TC's who are on that website and many have met up just ask Iceman or Erol.



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Clarets as these threats keep coming, they simply are really not worth answering, mostly the threats are like the puffer fish, perhaps if they puff themselves up to such an extent they will explode like the cartoon one.



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Clarets...."....now very carefully remove your head from your rectum and QUIT the patronising comments"



You don't do yourself any favours with your own patronising attitude to other members on here.



*mutters something about pots and kettles , stones and glasshouses , etc etc *



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Msg5

I used to work with a Greek Cypriot lady (she left Cyprus in 1973) who once warned me against saying that I had lived in TRNC and it was a wonderful place. Her words of warning were 'One day someone will shoot you'



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Stuart....... now I KNOW you are taking the michael....its not other people I make reference to....its the microbrain Miltiades and his foulf mouthed,xenophobic,racist,ill-educated friends. Get real Stuart !



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clarets



".....you dont know me my friend.....I have friends at some very high altitudes...know what I mean?"



Now you've got me worried!



I thought Doctors were supposed to keep people 'down here',... not 'up there',...



Isn't that in your Hippopotamus Oath?



Rob



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clarets , relax ,dont lower yourself to they,re level , my dad used to say , a big mouth doesnt make a big man , and all they have is big mouths , they actually believe they have been wronged murdering bastxxxs, your better educated than they,ll ever be , dont even respond to firestarter she nailed her colours to the mast a long time ago , she probably wants to live in the south with her friends but cant afford it lol , shes a hypocrite



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)))))))))))







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Iain



What a lot of tosh.



That guy is very good friends with at least a couple of Turkish Cypriots that I know.



Hardly makes him * quote* ........." foulf mouthed,xenophobic,racist,ill-educated........"



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Fair play to you Clarets, you had the balls to face miltides and the usual suspects in their own back yard on the cyprus-forum. He backtracked from being a threatening bully to a person that hates no one and is misunderstood.......my ar@e !



For an alleged 63 year old man he has filled his life with hate and can not see any further than the end of his nose. No wonder the Island is two states, the longer he and his kind show this behaviour the longer it will stay parted......in his own words....."What a PLONKER"



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Clarets..I have no doubt in my mind that you are not afraid of the idiot,but do not lower yourself to their level.Being an MD you should you use a bit more restraint in some of your comments.If you were an ordinary joe soap like me,that kind of behaviour is expected,but from a Doctor,I dont think so. You are not doing yourself, or other members of your profession any favours by your behaviour.You may well be right in what you have said,but they certainly have got you going, which is what they want,so they can say "and this is what British Doctors are like" There are times when discretion is the better part of valour....



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plectrum , will that be pre 63 , and will he bring a dyson this time , not much chance of it being a gun , greeks shit theyre breechs in 74 ,pity dysons were,nt invented then could have cleaned up all the greek shit then eh ///



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pikey



msg 43



are you not getting ahead of yourself ,or is it wishful thinking.



clarets



no one will take your property away ,talk is cheap,action you have to pay a little more for,chill.



musin



long live the kktc



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"HMS rectum", pathetic officer "Pike" knows it all. He is looking for an opening as a bull dozer operative!



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claret



calm down don,t rise to the bait, footie starts in 2 weeks look foward to the banter



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I am a little confused as to why it has been referenced on both this forum and the subject form that Iain should show some restraint because he is a doctor. I would rather have a truthful doctor with emotions and the strength to defend themselves when being attacked and/or threatened than a sheepish character who is so scared of his own emotional imbalance that he bows down to all and sundry to make the world a happier and shiney although false place.

I am sure that I will be corrected here but I believe Iain's job is to diagnose and treat when possible patients. I don't think it says anywhere that he must be polite to everyone he ever comes across no matter what the situation.

Well done Iain, if nothing else I now have a greater understanding of how deeply rooted the bias is in some (probably a huge minority) of GC's. Regardless of what there issues are, insulting and threatening people on a forum wil never repair the damage done, mentally or Physically.



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Clarets I have had time now to read the thread on that other forum and I see that militades (dam it lies) and I see after all the nasty threats he has made he has realised that he has taken on a heavyweight and is backing down by insisting you are not a real doctor lol..still the silly asshole had to come up with something to save face.



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rowlo,

what i can afford is my business. i don't wish to live in the south and never have.( yes i could afford it).

i choose my friends based on trust, something i find a lack of here.

i'm not a fair weather sort of person, i don't desert my mates when the going gets tough.

to be honest the likes of you i don't care what you have to say.

you say they are a racist forum, maybe you should look back and take a long look at this forum and some of the people who post here.

they have lots of tc members and lots of other nationalities as well,(including one of the 44 moderators).

you would be suprised how many people from here also post there.( not so polite when their there)

would you like a list??

how many gc members are there here? very few as they have all been banned.

which forum is more racist??



clarets, your opponent is a very well respected guy in the south, play carefully is all i would say.



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fire starter.



Simple question, are you roseandchan on Cyprus forum?



Bob.



clarets



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Plectrum.......it aint over till the fat lady sings....and I dont hear any music yet.Like people say.....got rather a large armed force on OUR side....not certain about yours though!



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Firestarted.....that some kind of threat again ?.....I dont respond well to those,especially from nobodies who think they are somebody!



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Dee.....the very same conclusion I came to !



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clarets.

i was just tring to explain to you, why they are so upset as you argued with a very repected guy over there.

why you just can't agree to differ is beyond me?

i didn't threaten you in any way, so i just don't know where your coming from?

i don't know you, i don't care if you are a doctor or not?

i can only tell you my experiences with the guy you are arguing with and explain to you why they are so upset.

(your views on the cyprus property issues)

you have your friends and i have mine, nothing strange in that.( at least i can trust mine)

argue your point if you feel you have to thats your choice, but as for him backing down, i would be very suprised.



i'm off now things to do. will be back later.



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msg 48. totally agree. The doctor has to show restraint in all things while the patient on the cyprus-forum makes threats and bad language. Wonder how he is getting on with his letter to the medical council ! and is he taking his prescribed medicine?



Msg 51.....I think you know the answer to that one Anthony.



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Proger 1 Msg 48.....you are correct in what you say. I have done nothing to dicredit my profession,and my patients who know me....will say the same.My satisfaction scores from the patient satisfaction surveys and the MORI polls are something I am proud of. Defending myself or my family on a forum has nothing to do with my profession and the GMC would have nothing at all to do with such trifles.I know that as my position as an assessor of other doctors and practices,places me such that I have to know what is important from a professional point of view. I have always been outspoken and at times quite adversarial....that is my character! I used to box and I can easily defend myself from a physical point of view......but my best defence has always been using my tongue and wit, and I shall continue to use both. Neither transgress my professional ethics nor the Hippocratic oath I swore.



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Firestarter....I take your point,but some of the couching of the phrases by yourself and also Miltiades especially......is very threatening. Miltiades has no idea who I am nor has he ever met me. I am an intelligent person who can easily manipulate peoples emotions to get a response....I am talking about intellectual jousting on forums etc and not with my patients.People on the other forum appear to thinks that may reflect a poor bedside manner! I can assure you ....it doesnt. Intellectual jousting is a good release from the intense pressures of my job. When I get threatened by someone who has no insight into who or what I am, I will respond in kind....though not to the extent of the ill-educated, foul-mouthed,physically threatening members(certain ones....not all!) on the other forum.Yes .....I did have mischief in mind,but nothing like what was coming back my way.People like that really need to grow up !



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I'm 100% behind you clarets and as I have just read a post from asimilar situation also proud of ismet/elko.



I don't want to say that I don't care about the past history of Cyprus north or south but I am more caring of the future and how it may concern me.



Some of the individuals on that forum are just bloody minded biggots who believe they have gained some sort of supremecy over another by insulting them purely because they have a different opinion.



The irony for me stands in the fact that I came to this Forum to hopefully gain some valuable information on North Cyprus which I have done for the most part, had some dissagreements along the way strangely enough with both DC's (didn't work that one out till today that they have the same initials) but have decided to move myself and my family to what will hopefully be a happy home for the future.

If however I had decided to use the other forum to gain information on the South of Cyprus I can assure you that I would not feel safe



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cont.

The so called well respected person that fire starter refers to is insulting everyone and he is joined along the way by others. I have seen personal grudges on this forum that detract from the point of the thread and have found them amusing for the most part but this guy claims he has friends of many nations but blames the Turks, Brits, Ottomans, US and anyone else he can think of but the supposed attrocities that caused the Turkish army to intervene are quietly ignored. The use of political documentation to justify that this was illegal is just rediculous.

Would he also claim that when the americans joined the allied forces in WWII it was illegal because they were not officially at war with the germans so it had nothing to do with them. The intervension in some african nations, Bosnia to stop the horrid war crimes that were ongoing. Essentially the Turks went into Cuprus to protest the peoples of there heritage and did not invade and conquer the island but stopped !!



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Apologies to all those out there that find comfort in litterary perfection but I am just a humble uneducated Scotsman.

Also and more importantly apologies from detracting from the thread although it was slightly in line.



Clarets, I am fully confident that your bedside manner would be exemplary, as you stated in the previous comment you need to vent sometimes. I can concur with that and sometimes, probably too often use sarcasm to do just that, it is not always understood but I have never had to accept such a barage of insults due to my own opinion being different from anothers, best wishes to you and your family and I hope we can sit down some time and enjoy a tipple and some banter, I like talking to truly educated people, they see through my sarcasm and either laugh or tell me it was innapropriate but never threaten to destroy me and mine. That is what sensible people do.



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Well said again Proger1......there are various people that I can disagree with strongly,but still go for a drink in the bar with afterwards(old cricketing terminology),but I will say....Miltiades is not one of them. He claims to run with the fox, but also hunt with the hounds....I am very wary of such people...not because they threaten me,but because they are invariably untrustworthy."civilization is a movement and not a condition, a voyage and not a harbor"... Arnold J.Toynbee



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Proger1....whoever said sarcasm was the lowest form of wit.......was never really good at it! I would enjoy the beer and the banter sometime.



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Are you sure you don't want to invite him, I could be referee or at the very least hold the coats.

I would be completely unbiased (by following his example) although don't think it would really be nescessary.



A boxer, I would have had you down as a prop forward at the very least but they would have needed a twin on the other side.



All the best,

Paul



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Baspinar bob, yes firestarter is roseandchan....



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Of course there is Plectrum, I just said "I am"



And just for the record, I went to school with loads of them. I never left school with any of them though. maybe thats where the uneducated part comes from !!!



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clarets,

when you post on public forums the trouble begins, everyone want a peice of you, thats just how it is.

you should know all about the general public by now.



i can only speak as i find people, which is what i have done. i know that doesn't please everyone here that i have friends in the south and the north,thats not i am playing both sides. i try to keep my friendships seperate regarding north and south.

as i said before i base my friendships on trust not nationality.



my serious thought on this is, you should let this one go, but the choice is yours.



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Msg 65....from a once navy fag and a special copper........not much chance of you upholding any dignity in those professions! Pot & Kettle come to mind with a little rat like you.



Do you have a toilet roll strapped to your chin?



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so whilst we are giving out other peoples personal info, lets get real and start calling dee by her real name dot.



if i need someone to speak for me, i would asked a trusted friend not a back stabber.



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Patrick, Am I sensing some hostility there, did you never smoke Navy cut cigarettes or are you referring to a different kind of fag ???



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General comment



There are a lot of ppl I know on here - who hide their IDs - with whom I don't agree - politically..



*I* would NEVER reveal their ids to anyone - suggest the cuplrit(s) here ask the mods to delete their offending posts.



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From 1963 to 1974, apparently, the majority of GC’s hid behind their doors and squealed in anguish at what was happening to their TC brothers. Unfortunately, if they had got out on the streets and protested they might have been of some use.

It only took a minority, unrestrained, to cause the harm. I can see the exact thing happening again, with the vitriol coming from some in the south. Two states are the only answer.



Troodo.



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FS, I am baffled by all this Dee and Dot, are you trying out morse code. I seem to find you bouncing around the threads dropping off comments that I find hard to follow for the most part and yes if you so wish to point it out to the masses, I am a moron that's why I can't follow.

I know this will come out wrong but, you have friends from evrywhere so you are not biased, you don't criticise but every time you get the chance you knock people down and as far as I can tell Tiggy and Plectrum were managing fine without you, again I am bafflesd but then as I said I'm a moron



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m,

i totally agree with you, but what goes around comes around, its been done to me far to often and i am not the only one this has been done to.



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Plectrum.....you have now revealed the real reason for your continued irritating stance. As the person I claim to be....I have the inside ilne on what really the GMC might be interested in.....Doctors having holiday homes and saying inflammatory thing on forums are not on their list....no matter what you or the misled Miltiades thinks.Doctors do not maintain intergrity"at all times"...I can assure you,but the vast majority of us do for the majority of the time. If indeed we do lose our integrity for short periods of time....the GMC is only interested in that ,IF it is something to do with being a doctor. We are not saints and not Mother Theresa! You however have revealed an insight into the way your mind works and that is obviously shared by your compatriot Miltiades. You feel that the press now might want to make an issue out of this in the same way as the Orams case. Yes...they might,but that would not necessarily benfit the Cyprus talks and not help to compensate the possible



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How can you totally agree with Mark when you have just done it !!!



clarets



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previous owner of the land(IF that IS the case....AND proven). It would raise my profile significantly in Cyprus....but not necessarily in the UK.....and not at all in my profession or with the GMC. Most of my colleagues already know about it and have no axe to grind.You mentioned "property" of displaced Cypriot.....there has NEVER been a property on the LAND before the villa was built,so technically NOBODY has been displaced. As I said before ,I am happy to compensate IF any is due,but we wont be paying above the going rate for the scrub land in that area......the "previous owner"....didnt have planning permission did he/she, and how much is the current value of 650m square of scrub land in TRNC well away from Girne? Simples....dont you think ?



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FS msg 69,"people who want a piece"....can have one......they just shouldn't bite off more than they can chew. The public dont own anyone just because you post on a forum....what complete crap! Like I said....anyone wants a piece.......ask real nice!



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fs, or should I call you Sara...for the record my name is NOT dot...never has been and never will be..how sad you are! and really rather silly..backstabber lol, how do you arrive at that conclusion?..btw GROW UP and stop with the threats...you seem to make a habit of threatening ppl, usually with your other half, crikey he must be scary lol.



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Firestarter



"you argued with a very repected guy over there".



he is respected over there! so we assume his views and your views are not taken to be extreme whereas, most people with no connection with Cyprus ,reading what you all put in that other forum,would think otherwise.



Brits.

"they should be executed like they did to the Nazis."

"Thats a fantastic idea. Lets prepare a list. "





Of Turks.

"Go back to Mongolia, Cyprus is Greek."

"There’s even a military contingent of women now, but to rape them you must first beat them, unlike in 1974 when sex was “free”…"



Get the idea folks.



Firestarter if you lot on Cyprus Forum believe these things ,then fine,but dont bullshit us all and revert to goody two shoes when you come on this site.Be consistant please.I have respect for those with extreme views who at least maintain those views regardless of who is the recipient,.At least we know what the future holds with them,unlike some who hide their true feelings behind hu



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proger,

i could do a lot of things to people, as m says we all have loads of personal things we know about each other but have the manners and restraint not to, even if we don't agree with someone or like them.

i did it because i am sick and tired of people doing it to me.

its not in my nature, but i will defend myself, i have taken a lot of s--t here, but no more, so the next one who wants a piece of me, be warned.

most of the time i rise above it, but it was done to be damn right out of order.



sorry for going off thread!



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Iain



Re msg 79.



On another thread you claimed that the land your house was built on was and i quote "legally exchanged". Now you are doing a complete U-turn.



Having asked you several times to give evidence of any Greek Cypriot land in the north being "legally exchanged" you have refused to provide any evidence of any such exchange but instead question my "education".



Iain by having your identity on a public forum, making such claims as you have reference property you are in possession of it was bound to cause a stir. Then again you probably knew that it was going to be the case



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FS, you just basicly followed up on Dee's statement of threatening people by "Be warned"



For the record, I don't want you as an enemy as much as I don't want anyone for an enemy but that has nothing to do with threats, that is my personal opinion of being friends or just being nonchellant is much easier.

My life is an open book that should anyone be so bored as to need to read about it I will put it down for them on paper.

I agree that if someone chooses to keep anonymous that should be a respected choice however you can't do exactly the same thing and expect to mount an adequate defence with but it has been done to me.

And another point, you have just written and had recorded unless you request it to be removed a statement that if anyone does anything to you they should be warned, a little vague and god forbid anything does happen to someone who has messed with you but it wouldn't look good !!!



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No Stuart...again please read more closely.....it is exchange land and nobody indicated that the land was exchanged illegally,but there are IF's in the text.



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proger

when you have been on this forum a while you will see who ever you are, everyone wants a peice of you.

i have watched them pick off people one by one. i have watched them do it to friend after friend.

i even have friends and customers who won't post here just because everything they post is brought down with this behaviour. its unfair and not needed, it is of no benefit to anyone other than the poster, scoring points against someone they don't like. fair debate is what its about, not point scoring.

maybe i worded it wrong and should have said, what goes around comes around , but what gives these people the right? are they better than me? more educated than me? richer than me?

my tc neightbour once said' clothes don't maketh a man" he was right.

we all come in with nothing and all go out with nothing, so why make life so horrible?

it just brings the forum down.



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Stuart....likely to cause a stir was the predictable bit....the racist vitriol in my direction was "uncalled for" from bigots in the South



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I am sure you would enjoy a lively debate FS

Nothing gives people this right but I still maintain that you can not criticise them for it and do the very same thing in revenge.

I, very much like Clarets can and if nescessary will use whatever means nescessary to protect myself and my family but I don't threaten people, it's a waste of time, if I am going to do something about it I will and rest assured it won't involve a keyboard.

This thread started because Clarets was bemused by the comments made on the other Forum about his opinions and low and behold now at nearly 100 messages he is being questioned about his property and has been previously advised by yourself to leave it alone.

By the way the Forum isn't affected much by this, peoples feelings get hurt and they choose to avoid it, the resentment will still be there you just don't have to face it.



clarets



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Paul....again...an insightful response.As they say in my neck of the woods...."they dont like it up 'em!"



Stubs


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Iain



re msg 86



I have read what you wrote again and here is the exact text you used



"The land was legally exchanged,and the current owner has sold part of it to the builder ......"



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/19591.asp (its in msg 66)



By saying "no one said it was exchanged illegally" (msg 86 here) shows how little research one has done on land issues in the north. There have been plenty of warnings over the years even from the UK authorities.



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Okey... that's enough



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This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.



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Iain



As for the reaction you have got from some Greek Cypriots it is predictable.



The land issue in the north is a very thorny one to say the least it would be interesting to know what type of response you thought you would have got from some Greek Cypriots.



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