If I owned a business in TRNC

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
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Message Posted:
04/08/2009 20:55

If I owned a business in TRNC...

and if I or my business would be damaged by unfounded, malicious attacks on this board...

by anonymous posters...



I would instruct my TRNC lawyer to sue the owner of this site.



I bet the owner of this site would then find a way to protect honest businesses from being damaged by anonymous cowards, who lie about their name, occupation etc and "opt to hide their email address".



* Admins, this is hypothetical and only meant to stimulate a debate.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:02

Hans



Not a sensible path forward, I can't find an Advocate to sue another, not even the Bar Council will take action even with blatant proof of serious malpractice! They're all at it. Shoot them all!



Richard

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:05

DC I thought you did own a business in TRNC, or is that another Dutch Crusader, multiple personalities maybe.

Or maybe it isn't a business you run, just a money making hobby.

DC this isn't an attack on you personally, it's just to stimulate a debate.

ps better make sure my e-mail address isn't hidden.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:05

nice one guess i for one could have been in line for some cash...and someone once said to me,not sure if it was you DC.or all the MMMMMM..That i would not last 6months...well tiss 8 months now.But i remember how and why i first came upon this Forum..History,and much in the past today.!! he,he, ))))))))))





Spider,x now i wonder how much.!!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:05

Hans. Can you give us a 'hypothetical' example of this?

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
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Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:07

Hans, ps msg 5 it wasn't/isn't

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:16

Tony



Back on the 'pop' again or just missing your daily walks in this searing heat?!



Richard

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:20

RE msg 2: OK, Richard, easy! Next Efes is on me, if you promise to go to bed now.

RE msg 3: I'm getting bl**dy rich indeed.

RE msg 4: I haven't got a clue what you're trying to explain, spider. But that's nothing new, eh?

RE msg 5: Yes, Bill, I can. Lobster springs to mind. And Lapta Aqua Park. And Guido's. More examples available.

RE msg 6: Huh?

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:21

Na he just a misery guts and always wants his own way, well Hans you wouldnt last two mins in a business, so keep to your job of reporting/writing, you just aint got it to be a business man. Most of us couldnt give a t--s what you think, lol xx

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:23

RE msg 10: Ignored. You're not capable of debate. Go back to the stables.

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:30

Msg 10



Name 'gladys' with no email, forgot what gender you are and can't remember whether you ever got married or not! At your age a candidate for an alzheimer's sufferer!



Richard

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:39

You wrote to me darling DC, oh bliss, bliss bliss, nope dont want to debate with someone with a problem, as I have said you would never be a business man DC you just aint got the 'bottle', just a few words and no action!!

To have a business it takes stamina and tenacity, which most reporters dont have, as they just hang around and 'hope' for a story. lol xxxxx

Have to say I have met a few Dutch business men and they were very clever. Sad when some one gets less of the old grey matter isnt it. lol xx



Education 1 hans, stable--horse

2 barn----cow lol

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:44

Brinsley you in love with DC as well!!! come on little boys, soon be bed time xx

adagirl


Joined: 01/06/2009
Posts: 371

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:48

As a business owner I would say ignore the bad 'press' what can you sue for? loss of business? how can you prove what losses you sustain from such bad 'press' ? I for one would complain to the owners if I had a gripe not mouth off on a public forum = that is in my mind just sheer bloody minded and petty and those that shout out loud from behind an anonymous computer are nothing but cowards in my humble opinion of course x

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:49

RE msg 13, stupidcow: Message ignored, kletskous. Read msg 12, please.

Hector


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Message Posted:
04/08/2009 21:50

Of course, the defence to libel is that it was true.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 22:07

Ooooooh darling DC love it xxx

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
04/08/2009 22:39

RE msg 17: Attention Admins.



=> Rule 6. Keep The Focus

Posts outside the scope of the question asked in the initial (first) post may be deleted without notice.



Thank you.

blinky



Joined: 07/12/2008
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 22:45

Wots up DC???, chill out dude!!

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 22:47

msg 18 ---Ha ha ha ha hans I havent laughed so much in ages xx

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
04/08/2009 23:00

Re msg 14, adagirl: Thanks for your reply which was worth a comment - but you've seen what happened. I'm sorry that it seems impossible to start a thread without the known lunatics taking over asap.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 23:07

Hans, it is what you do to other threads so stop your bleating xx

Lilli



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Message Posted:
04/08/2009 23:14

I think msg 14 was the best advice

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 23:34

Lilli, It's obvious what adagirl needs, read the 'romantic boat trip', all will be made clear!



Richard

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
04/08/2009 23:57

Lilli if you have been dealing with customers for 40 odd years, and keep every one happy you know you have made it. First rule of any business is the customers are always right even if you know darn well that they are wrong.

Never slag off any one because you dont know who they talk to, or who they may be. They pays 'yer money' as they say, well enough said on that.

Lilli I have no doupt that you 'give all' to your business, most women are the back bone of any partnership.

I infact do wish you well, lol

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 00:06

Hi Dizzy I know you do. Its not easy here love.I have been customer foscused for asmany years as you. It can wear yo down. We are the backbone and mine is giving up . You know last night i had one of these things that tells l you how many steps you take ME 6982. How hard is that in this heat . DC i hope we are still friends as I enjoyed the banter xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 00:07

Well Hans, you certainly succeeded in your intention to "stimulate a debate" even if the thread lost it's way slightly.

Still good to have you back

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 07:11

Message 26 - well, there's a fine lesson in back-peddling, if ever I've heard it!



You've tried to undermine Guido's (please note spelling) big time, and now, as you've done before, you are

a...licking. Of course, you've done this before,haven't you?



I must say, I particularly liked the inference (you may have to look it up) that you felt you "looked the part" when asking the price of lobster. You then went on to say that Guido (again, please note spelling) was "talking to some (what was it, tarty types) of women".



You may well 'look the type' but,I can assure you, you certainly do not "sound" the type.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 08:40

In my opinion, there are three main differences between posting a comment on a forum and publishing a story in another media (such as a newspaper.)



1. I understand, that normal reporting procedure in most media(s) (Hans, please correct me if I am wrong) would be to allow the company (or, the subject of the story) to give their comments and then, to add them to 'the story' on (initial) publication.



This doesn't happen on this (and other) forums. The post is published for everyone to see, without any comment from the subject of the post, who is then, forced to defend themselves in the face of (maybe) unsubstantited allegations.



2. For fear of of shouts of "harassment," and large libel damages, Without extremely good proof or justification, the editor of a newspaper (again Hans, please correct me if I am wrong) would not allow a reporter to (repeatedly) report stories about one company/individual.



.....cont

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 08:42

On this and other forums, certain "characters" repeatedly harass other members and with no editor, (other than the owner/mods,) there is no system in place to "check" this type of thing. Having said that, I know that the owner and the mods work very hard to keep a "check" on this type of thing and that certain individuals have been banned many times. The problem is that they simply return (under another name) and take up where they left off.



3. In other media, the writer has to print their name (whether it is their "real" name or, not doesn't matter) but their "real" identity is known to the publisher who, through the editor, keeps a check on the "writers." They certainly would not be allowed to use the media to defame someone because of a grudge, vendetta, jealousy or, because they hadn't "got their own way" in a previous "dealing" with someone.



On this and other forums unfortunately, this sort of thing goes on everyday.



.....cont

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 08:42

The two main points here are, anonimity and loss of reputation/business.



I once posted a picture and commentary regarding a local company who had allegedly sabotaged a new client's internet connection by cutting the cabling of their new supplier. Within the commentary, I commented as one of the principles of the "competitor" whose cable had been cut. I was identified as a competitor and people can make up their own minds and judgement. A local newspaper took up the story and the company received some publicity. Whether I would bother to do that today would be determined by my "motivation."



Reading some of the comments on here, I have to agree with Hans. Certain Members use this board simply, as a tool to "harass" on a personal level, whether this is acceptable practice in this media (if the kitchen is too hot etc.) is debatable and I suppose boils down to the "harassers" *personal morals*



.....cont

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 08:43

I have heard it said (if the kitchen is too hot etc.) and I agree (where the individuals and motivation have been identified) but it should not be allowed where it is "anonymous" and part of a "vendetta" against a business. Furthermore, where multiple personalities are posting the same type of thing about the same people or, where members are working in partnership with each other to damage someone's reputation. It is just not accpetable



My personal experience is that the owner and mod's do take note of what is being posted and are aware of, and banned certain individuals from posting and that they do implement a policy of low tolerance to this type of thing, but in certain cases, the damage may have already been done.



There may be the rewards from advertisers and an opportunity to further oneself, but running a forum is not easy and comes with responsibility. The owner and mod's are under a lot of pressure to make sure that this type of thing doesn't go on.



.....cont

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 08:44

Over to you Sammy der,der,der,der.de de



"Me, and my shadow........"



Washerman

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 09:05

Jeannie, I love a good quiz. I've been up and down this posting trying to work out who you're aiming at. msg 26 was by dizzycows, is she the a...licker? Only reference to "Guido's" is by DC, and he spells it the same as you do.

Can't find anyone claiming that they "looked the part" when asking about the price of lobsters.

Can't find a mention of "tarty women" either.

Will have to give in and move on.

Wish it'd stop raining so I could go for a walk. Sad innit

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 09:11

Washerman



Did you ever have a sense of humour? Or was your upbringing so dire, devoid of any levity that it has made you the stern, serious, austere character you portray yourself as!



Richard

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 10:10

Brinsley, my upbringing.......

Where I grew up near Wigan, the housing was terrible, the walls were so thin, one day, we opened the oven door and the next door neighbour was dipping his bread in our gravy.

Lazy! - one of our neighbour's insurance stamps was worth more than a penny black!

I arrived late at school one Monday morning, the teacher asked me why, I said, "sorry miss, my Dad was burned this morning." She said, "not seriously, I hope," "oh yes!" I replied, "they don't mess about down the crematorium."

My mother was a lovely lady but big. It didn't matter where you sat in the room, you were always sat next to her.

When I asked my father-in-law whether there was a dowry if I married his daughter, he promised me, three acres and a cow, I'm still waiting for the three acres.

Obviously not, but some of the time, certain issues have to be addressed seriously.

Over to you Sammy der,der,der,der de de

"Me, and my shadow........"

Washerman

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 10:13

That's more like it Washerman, keep it up!



Richard

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 10:20

I will if you can lend me some Viagra

They do a woman's version now you know, it's called "Niagra"

I went to the Doctors with sunburn and he gave me a Viagra tablet. I said "I didn't know that Viagra cured sunburn "it doesn't" he said, "but it will keep the sheets off your legs tonight!"

Over to you Sammy der,der,der,der de de

"Me, and my shadow........"

Washerman

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 12:20

Hi minertor, think perhaps jeannie is jumping to conclusions, old saying 2+2 makes 9 or whatever! I have no axe to grind with Lilli or any one on this forum, just commented about service that we had recieved and that we would not be going back to that cafe/restaurant! If folks want to get all 'hand up their bum' stance so be it. Did not name the eating place, and I will praise any one that offers money for value, it is up to that business IF they think it is their premises to be a little sharper. lol



PS sorry for the lecture, but been in the retail business for yonks. (yonks to long)

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 12:24

Hi jeannie, just to say hi really, and to answer your post so that you can get it clear in your mind.

No I am not back peddling my stance is still the same, and no Im not a---e licking never done that, its what cats do and DC knows Im a cow!!!! lol

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 13:52

Msg 29.



I see the other half of { The Wicks } is back correcting the grammer and spelling.



The self imposed exile did not last long.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 15:57

Hi chick, jeannie can correct all she likes in my writings, if it helps her to vent her anger. I dont really care if I write something thats not quite right, got to much other interesting things to do in my life. x

harita


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Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 16:31

chick .. Would you be from Blackburn

begonia


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Posts: 229

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 16:37

Here-we-go-again !!

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
05/08/2009 17:15

Hans



Just for fun,...



Why don't you open a 'Virtual' Business on here, choose whatever you want,... tell us all about it,....



Wait for the 'Virtual' abuse and 'Virtual' malicious attacks.



Instruct your 'Virtual' Lawyer to Prosecute.



Let's see who ends up in 'Virtual' Court with you,...



There seem to be at least a couple of female posters who you could see as Defence Councel. Littlenige could be your errant,.. sorry,.. errand delivery driver,...









This could be as fun as 'Mornington Crescent',... the game could run & run!





Rob