I feel let down by Cyprus44

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 20:32

Foreigners have very few outlets to express their feelings about injustice against them as a group. Until now I thought that Cyprus44 was on our side and was allowing us to display our dismay whenever they were treated wrongly, for example jailing Jez the hairdresser in such a seemingly unjust way. Cancelling a thread with an excuse that there MIGHT be a court case means that no one can comment on a possible injustice even if the Police wrongly imprison someone and they have to wait perhaps months or years for that person to be released if they are found innocent. For example, page 5 of the Midweek Cyprus Today reports on a man who threatened to kill his wife, actually names the man despite their obviously being an "impending court case" - the excuse used by Cyprus44 to end an important discussion. Sorry but what a load of old cobblers.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 20:36

Sue you sound more like a angrybird than a Earlybird but i have to agree with you.



Cooper

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 20:50

Whatch out you will have been 'tango'd' by the mods if they dont like what you put up!!

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 20:58

Hopefully they are not that small minded

berkeh2001


Joined: 28/02/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 21:07

as they say there is no justice in this world (adaletsiz dunya ) oh and that includes this forum

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 21:08

Earlybird, don't be too sure about that, some of them are quite iffy should you cross them, free speech only when it suits certain people.

Baspinar Bob


Joined: 15/02/2008
Posts: 618

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 21:20

Well done Alsencakjack........ Not.





Bob.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 21:23

Earlybird.....you are mistaken if you think that Cyprus 44 is a forum to right wrongs.

Cyprus 44 is a forum to PROMOTE property and tourism in NC,and it is sponsored by people with a vested interest in accentuating the positives and keeping quiet about the negatives.

Having said that,as long as you accept this bias and" play by the rules",this is still an enjoyable forum to use.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 22:07

For what it is worth, there will be a court case tomorrow and anything posted on this board could have an impact on the outcome.

AJ

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 22:10

Cronos agree with you absolutely, it is for any thing, fun, serious, politics, just dont let things get to you, its only a forum, not a life and death senario. lol

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 23:40

innocecent until proven guilty x

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
16/08/2009 23:55

I agree with cronos.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 11:39

cronos agree with you for once



to many posts being closed of late



same mod as well

teatime


Joined: 20/10/2008
Posts: 852

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 11:45

"For what it is worth, there will be a court case tomorrow and anything posted on this board could have an impact on the outcome.



AJ"





I think you are now living in cloud cookoo land!!!

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 12:11

We were all having a little fun on a thread, and whoooosh, it was taken off. Cyprusairsoft got a telling off by the 'he who must be obeyed brigade', still it was good fun whilst it lasted. Should all do more nonsence ones,

keeps us all on a level, stops the serious ones from commiting 'harikari', lol

denflolad


Joined: 18/06/2009
Posts: 67

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 12:26

Quote - For what it is worth, there will be a court case tomorrow and anything posted on this board could have an impact on the outcome. Quote



AJ



You are saying, in effect, that a Judge and the legal system of this fine Isle can be negatively swayed by a few

well intensioned people saying what they think on a simple forum.



I think not Sir! A rather silly and negative comment to make! In my humble opinion.

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 12:50

Back in 2005 we were also being told that we could not comment about property problems because there were 'pending court cases'. You would have to have your head in the sand not to know what has happened since then especially for those who bought in the last 4 years who if they had been allowed to be forewarned may have avoided losing everything. It certainly did not benefit the home buyers that we stopped commenting and instead waited for the old government to sort things out. Hopefully the new government will listen to us about the treatment that Jez is getting and will do something to stop this injustice.



I think you are pre judging that this current government wants to silence a justifiable anger. In a way it is insulting to a party who have been elected to correct the wrongs that have been done in the past 5 years to say that they want to shut down freedom of speech.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 12:59

Perhaps AJ realised that in the now closed thread he had said a little too much and was worried about the consequences of that, maybe as a moderator he ought to have thought a little before putting his version of things on a public forum.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 13:49

To all

forgive me if I'm interfearing,but



I think AJ. is actualy crying out to you to say;



Please dont jump to conclusion,lets make sure what this is about first,then act if we want to.





Which I think is very senseable,



I dont understand why everyone is attacking him.

Sometimes we can all speak at a spur of moment without thinking straight and regret later,

I,for one fell into that situation couple of months back on another thread,

So please stop beaching off one another and consentrate on what the actual threads are about and dont get so personal.lol

Regards

denflolad


Joined: 18/06/2009
Posts: 67

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 14:42

Yorgozlu,



I sincerely hope you are correct. I have read and reread AJ's short missive, Msg 9, and I cannot for the life off me come to the same conclusion.



He has made a considered statement - Quote: For what it is worth, there will be a court case tomorrow and anything posted on this board could have an impact on the outcome. Unquote - where is he "crying out"



I would accept that line 7 of your post may be correct and would therefore ask that AJ clarify.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 15:33

*I do not normally get involved in debates like this but when a person opens a salon and takes in customers and tells them that he is still waiting to get his paperwork sorted out and has the shop windows plastered with 'opening up soon' banners then that tells me that he is working illegally. I will add that I do not care one iota what and how people live their lives, if someone wants to work illegally then that is their decision and they will have to sort out any problems that arise.*



Perhaps AJ would like to elaborate on the above statement he made too, he may be required to in the court case. What happened to innocent until proven guilty.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 16:20

hattikins

re msg 21

As well as asking the question:"What happened to innocent until proven guilty?"



You are also assuming that he is "guilty",in your above comments.



or am I wrong with my understanding?lol

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 18:19

denflolad, court cases need to be conducted with decorum, not with a bunch of hot heads heating up the ether with speculative comments, usually the subject of which they know very little about.



FYI, I once made a posting on a forum prior to a court case, it was reported back and I received warnings from a lawyer re possible slander accusations / action that could /would be made by the defendant against me, claiming my words were affecting the outcome of the trial. This would have put the outcome of the case at risk and damaged the prosecution's chance of winning the case.



TonyE

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 18:29

Re message 22, they were AJ,s words not mine.

I feel in that post he was implying guilt and as a moderator should keep those type of remarks to himself, not close the thread because others may have a different opinion from his own.

It smacks of do as I say not as I do.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
17/08/2009 21:50

RE msg 24, hattkins: (...) as a moderator should keep those type of remarks to himself (...)



=> Moderators/Admins delete/moderate offending (the rules) posts on this board. There is NO rule telling Admins not to give their personal opinion - and rightfully so. I suggest you read this: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/rules.asp (it's about time you do it, Madam).

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 01:17

re msg 24

Sorry,I misunderstood.lol

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 09:58

DC You may call me madam , but rest assured I will never call you Sir, you silly, pompous, interfering little man.



Hattikins.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 10:14

hattikins,

You actually made me laugh out loud, sat in front of my computer - I'm still giggling now!

I don't know what DC thought of it though...

Keith.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 10:21

Keith, Sir,

Glad it made you titter, some people on here take life far too seriously for their own good.



Hattie