Vahib & Co Solicitors

Othello


Joined: 18/08/2009
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 20:46

I appreciate its probably old news over there but thought it important for all prospective purchasers and current disillusioned ones to know that Hassan Vahibs wifes solicitors firm vahib & co have ceased to trade and are longer recognised by the Law Society in the UK.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 22:39

I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned before, she (Isun Vahib) was representing the Orams after all. It was in Cyprus Today 8th August. The paper reported that she has had to quit the Orams legal team amid allegations of financial irregularities including the alleged illegal transfer of money from a client account. She has been called before a Solicitors Regulation Authority disciplinary tribunal later this year. The SRA allege Mrs Vahib transferred money from a client account, failed to keep accounting records properly written up, acted in circumstaces where there was a conflict of interest between her & a client and allowed the firms client account to be used at the discretion of the office manager. Her husband Hasan also worked for the firm which has been closed down.



As UK solicitors have to have client indemnity insurance, any clients would be recompensed if they had lost money.



Pity the TRNC doesn't have an SRA.

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
19/08/2009 00:14

Such a shame, and the Vahibs kept totally quiet about it all - no one had any inkling of it until the grand announcement. But the good thing is that the Orams legal team are doing fine, and although the Vahibs will be missed, it will not cause any delays or complications to the work being done. By the way, not only is the team working onthe Appeal on 12 and 13thNovember but has also requested a re-hearing/re-consideration with the ECJ on the grounds that the ruling was injuust due to several factors, one of which was having a Greek as head of the judges!

cyprusinvest


Joined: 27/05/2010
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 06:28

I have invested a six figure sum in land in cyprus through vahib & co. They shut the company down and have dissapeared with my money. I also know of 3 other parties who have invested similar figures who have suffered the same fate from the Vahibs. They are cheats and thiefs. I am sure there are a lot more people out there who have frauded by Hassan & Isun Vahib.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 22:12

Think you might be in a queue!

honest2010


Joined: 25/10/2010
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 13:59

How can she be employed as a solicitor again? if you need details pls contact me.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 14:42

From the information that I can find she was not struck off the solicitors register. Many of the points referred to above whilst headline grabbers were slightly technical breaches of the Solicitors Accounts Rules relating to dealings with her now ex Husband's company.



I can however find no current record of her name in the Solicitors Roll, she may now of course use her maiden name or indeed may have re married.



Any misconduct by a UK solicitor should be referrered to the Solicitor's Regulation Authority.



Harold

honest2010


Joined: 25/10/2010
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 15:43

She is still under the same name...



She is working at the below firm. I really can't believe people like her and Hassan are allowed to walk free.



Garstangs

CompanyType : Solicitors

227 Strand, London, WC2R 1BA

Telephone: 020 7427 5678, Fax: 020 7427 5679

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 15:49

none of the matters referred to and investigated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority were in any way criminal. If you have further complaints then you should contact them and have them investigated rather than post vague inferences on this board.





Harold

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 15:53

Harold2555 wrote "none of the matters referred to ans investigated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority were in any way criminal."

There is a mention of prosecution on the SRA website http://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicitor-check/2118.article#

honest2010


Joined: 25/10/2010
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 16:00

Harold - Why was Isin disciplined? if you say she was not in any way criminal.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 16:06

The plot thickens! It's a cover up!



Richard

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 16:14

The Solicitors Accounts Rules are very detailed and breach of those is not in itself indication of Criminal acts. She was disciplined for some errors in book keeping and allowing Troy Lake Cyprus UK to pay money in to her client account and allowing her now ex husband to make payments out against this at his discretion. She also failed to pay a bill from a firm that I believe supply representation at Police stations for Solicitors clients. She also failed to pay her Professional Indemnity Insurance which lead to the firm being immedaitely closed.



Mal, Prosecution is the term used when the SRA take matters before the Disciplinary Tribunal. It is not a Criminal process Per Se.



It is possible that the Lady has ceased to be a UK solicitor. That does not preclude her working for another firm providing neither they nor she hold her out to be a solicitor. I do not know this is the case.



Harold

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 16:17

It may not be criminal, but Harold's description of her "offences" would/should bring her honesty and integrity into question.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 16:20

I am aware that people claim, and I have no reason to doubt them, that they lost money or are otherwise upset with Troy Lake. Thiis was the business from what I can see of the Lady solicitor's Husband and another man.

I don't know the state of her involvement with this company if any. What I do know is that apart from some money going in to her client account from the UK Troy Lake company, no activities involving house development in Cyprus formed part of the investigation and the discipline from the appropriate UK regulators.



If there are matters that should be further investigated then those authorities should be informed.



The report of the Solicitors Disciplnary Tribunal can be found here



http://www.sra.org.uk/SDT/



Harold

honest2010


Joined: 25/10/2010
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 17:13

Thanks Harold...I have reported this.



I just dont think other people should be abused by the Vahibs

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 17:32

Harold, what I was suggesting was a crime in a wider sense of a "breach of rules or laws for which some governing authority (via mechanisms such as legal systems) can ultimately prescribe a conviction." In this case the SRA was the governing authority. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 17:36

For easy access to message 15 for those that wish to read, It's November 2009.

It's beyond belief!



Richard

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 17:39

Mal



well given that earlier posts mentioned people not being able to walk free, I think my interpretation as in against the Criminal code of the land was the more obvious!





Harold

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 17:42

Harold, have you some link to firm/lady? Nothing implied, just asking.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 18:24

None whatsoever just providing information available to all based on years of Auditing Solicitors Accounts under the Solicitors accounts rules

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 18:26

I believe you.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 18:42

Harold, now don't get me started on what constitutes a crime, it reminds me of my law lecturing days

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 18:50

The laws on deception/fraud have changed recently (in legal terms). Harold may be behind the times?. Seems like deception to me.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 20:31

Yenibob



I am not talking about anything other than the transgressions that brought her before the Solicitors Diciplinary Tribunal, I don't know the facts about anything else.



The question was asked, how can she get a new job as a solicitor, I replied after researching the offences that were acted upon by the SDT. Nothing in those acts, as reported could be constued as deception.



Harold

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 20:41

Harold2555

Is this why you've banned me many times in the past without transparency of informing me why, by email? I am not going to debate privileged legal argument with you as there are better qualified people on this board that would do better than I.



Richard

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 22:04

Thank you for the reply "Harold". You are perfectly at liberty to defend said lady, and I will not worry why;o)

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 22:08

In my memory Richard I have never banned you, I could always start though!

However I do agree that there are many more people better qualified to debate legal arguement with on the board. If it was privaleged I of course wouldn't debate it on the board!



There are probably not that many on the board better experienced to debate the Solicitor's accounts rules though!





Harold

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
25/10/2010 23:34

Yenibob



not defending her merely reporting facts as to why she was allowed to continue to be employed as a Solicitor in the UK





Harold