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DutchCrusader



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19/08/2009 20:32

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In another thread I quoted what an English lawyer (working in England) told me: "There are no solicitors in TRNC". I'm not familiar with the English/British judicial system - someone in the know has to enlighten me (because I may be wrong in quoting the above).



Someone in the know, please...



Hector


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They are right. They are called 'advocates' in the TRNC. UK Solicitors have to be legally qualified & practicing members of the UK Law Society. All practicing solicitors have to have a current legal practice certificate & have indemnity insurance.



flightholiday


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Hans as you know the English language is a little complex maybe even weird.



What do you mean by solicitors 1] a person who is in the legal profession who is not a barrister but might be a notary public? 2] a person who is soliciting your interest to buy i.e any one in sales 3] a person who is in the oldest proffession and is soliciting your trade? 4] solicitor of the treasury. The title of one of the officers of the United States to name a few.



Hector


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UK solicitors are subject to strict disciplinary & legal rules. Complaints made against them are independently investigated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) and as a result of that investigation they can be subject to disciplinary proceedings i.e. their firm closed down and the individual struck off. Mrs Isun Vahib & her firm Vahib & Co are a recent example.



loslobos


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Hey Dutch,

How come you have so much time to post interminable messages on the Forum ?



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 5, loslobos: (...) How come you have so much time to post interminable messages on the Forum ? (...)



=> Robert, wait till I can use both hands and hence all ten fingers to type again - I'm not in good shape yet.



elko2



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Re. msg. 4

Hector,

I heard about the closure but had no idea about the easons. Can you enlighten us please?

ismet



negativenick


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Dutch - Garry Monger want's 2 grams of what you are on, please....



Bradus


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20/08/2009 09:35

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Elko, this is a summary of what was reported in the British Newspapers.



From Hector's post yesterday.



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/21005.asp



negativenick


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Naomi Mehmet has "LLB" after her name, which qualifies her as a solicitor (in the UK anyway...)...



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 3, flightholiday: (...) What do you mean by solicitors 1] a person who is in the legal profession who is not a barrister but might be a notary public? 2] a person who is soliciting your interest to buy i.e any one in sales 3] a person who is in the oldest proffession and is soliciting your trade? 4] solicitor of the treasury. The title of one of the officers of the United States to name a few. (...)



Tom, many (British) people on this board use the word "solicitor" when they probably mean a TRNC lawyer (advokat). Hence my question in post number 1.



ozankoys


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Hi NN I may be wrong but I do not think you become a solicitor just by getting a Law Degree, you have to work for so many years in a firm of Solicitors before you can become one yourself.



Aga Buyers A G


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This may be of help



http://www.freewebs.com/trncpropertywarning/lawyerdefinition.htm



ABAG

xxxxx



Aga Buyers A G


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or this



http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/findasolicitor.law



flightholiday


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Hans,



I assumed that was what you meant but no one should work on assumptions - like the Brits who do not know the large difference between the two; Solicitor / Advokat and the differences of the two legal systems.



Difference down to even that the North Cyprus legal system sometimes differentiates between people of different foreign backgrounds on the inheritance situation.



If anyone is interested I am sure Ismet can explain far better than I could (we discussed this a little when he was advising on my will in assocaiation with his Advokat).



Tom



Hector


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In the UK simply having a Law Degree (LLB) does not qualify you as a solicitor. That is only the start. Once you have a Law degree (or complete a conversion course if you have a degree other than in law) you either complete a one year full time (or longer part time) Legal Practice Course (LPC) for solicitors or Bar Vocational Course (BVC) for barristers.



Having passed one of those courses you then go on to a form of apprenticeship. Barristers can call themselves barristers at that stage as they are 'called to the bar.' They then have to find & complete a 1 year pupillage in a set of barristers chambers, at the end of which they then look for a set of chambers to join or find a job with a solicitors firm etc.



Having completed the LPC solicitors have to find a 2 year trainee placement with a firm of solicitors. Having successfully completed that 2 year traineeship, they are then entered on the Law Society Roll. They are then a solicitor. To practice they have to join a legal firm.



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