It’s time for Greek Cypriots to take part of the blame (Cyprus Mail)

Aussie


Joined: 17/06/2007
Posts: 657

Message Posted:
07/09/2009 14:57

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=47671&cat_id=1

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
07/09/2009 15:16

Oh my now wait for the backlash now its been posted on here! well done Aussie, we await the multi m's and a few others who will defend the GC. killings of the Turkish Cypriots, bleating that they didnt do any thing, and that it was their right ....

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
07/09/2009 15:25

Aussie

A very fair statement of the mind set of the South

"It wasn't us "

And

"That big bully just turned up for no reason and turfed us out of house and home in 1974"

oh and

"those lazy turks just could not be bothered to work with St Makarios "

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
07/09/2009 15:27

We all seem to recognise this, it is only the GC's who cannot recognise it. Any mention of the Genocide Files gets them hot under the collar. They need to recognise what has happened and why it happened to prevent it happening again.

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
07/09/2009 20:01

The Greek Cypriots have been in denial for far too long. The international community is realising that it is they who are the problem delaying the unity talks.

Their actions in preventing the Turkish Cypriots their right to exist as part of international society has now become obvious even to their allies like France and Germany. The Communist government of South Cyprus is proving to be an embarrasment to the EC.

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
07/09/2009 21:10

Much as I don't agree with Geejay's analysis of the position of TRNC with other states, I'm still getting a very Dad's Army feeling about Bonio probably wearing a long scarf and asking questions of Sgt Wilson.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
07/09/2009 22:54

Aussie,

An excellent article, the sooner more people realise the true facts the better,

Paul.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
07/09/2009 23:33

Yes Arthur....he is a STUPID BOY!.....don't tell em "Pike"

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 00:52

I LOVE the CY Daily Mail.... REALLY !



But it is many only read by UK ex-pats ( and oft quoted by "northies" ) and some GCs who have lived off island..



Here's hoping the msg gets across and the TCs start reading minority papers, too, eh DC ?;)

Cyprusraider


Joined: 08/04/2009
Posts: 99

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 07:34

I'm not really too sure how to read your posting mmmmmm. Do you disagree with the article? Did the Cyprus Problem really start in 1974? Should all Turkish Cypriots and others in the North go home? Please clarify.

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 09:51

Bonio.....No offence..... But don't you know that Dimitris Christofias is the leader of the Greek Cyprus Communist Party, the party in power. As far as the International Community is concerned, especially the EC, they now realise that they made mistakes regarding Cyprus. Although they won't admit it. But they do now want to even things up.

This article in the Cyprus Mail by a Greek Cypriot and the report of a "Plan B" in the Cyprus Star are just two indications of that. Then take in the recent rapport between Russia and Turkey and statements made by many foreign politicians in favour of equal status for both communities.

Whatever happens to the unity talks. Things will never be the same again. There is no such thing as maintaining the "status quo".



6m's.......Keep it up. You're the best advert for the Turkish Cypriots position that we have !

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 10:39

Dear CR re msg 11



Sorry, let me make it clear.. YES, the article in CY Mail had it right for some GCs ... *I* blame schooling and unrealistic promises made by a now dead President.



Dear Geejay



>>you're the best advert for the Turkish Cypriots position that we have !<<



I've already responded to THAT in another thread.. don't you find an oft repeated "fib" tends to detract from the person speaking it ?! ;)

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 10:51

In defence of mmmmmmm, his moral view of what happened has always appeared as tending towards sympathy for the TC position. Legally mmmmmmm tends to support the GC position because it's the staus quo and what the rest of the world does.

Legally the GC's are still "in the right" whereas they don't occupy the higher moral ground anymore, if they ever did.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 11:03

Hi "TRNC" you're nearly there..;)



I don't agree that "TRNC" was the wisest move to help the TC cause and I don't agree with allowing the sale - for private gain of land still legally owned by a Cypriot.



As someone who campaigned for an Annan YES, and someone who thought it would be impossible to share power with former terrorists / freedom fighters in N.Ireland I live in hope for a sea-change in CY, too.. !

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 11:08

The "Cyprus Problem" made simple - "Tell a lie big enough and often enough and it eventually will become the truth" - All involved, including USA, UK, Greece, Turkey, TC's and GC's have been party to "The Big Lie" and all now believe that "Their" lie is the truth.



If only one would stand up and say - OK, we told a lie - maybe there would be some ground for movement! If you do not think that is true then go ask a Native American Indian why Custer lost and how they got back their lands!

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 11:55

Oh dear 6m's.....You really should read and understand other's posts instead of just piling in negatively. My comment to you was different to my previous one.

I really do think that your continual praising of things Greek Cypriot to the detriment of Turkish Cypriots is actually favourable to the T/C's position. Very few believe you any more.

Or is that just a strategy for raising awareness of how badly the T/C's have been treated by the International Community......Are you really a 5th. columnist working for the TRNC ?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 18:10

Dear Geejay



re msg 17



Please explain how >>My comment to you was different to my previous one. << and we can discuss..



STILL trying to "discredit" me ;) ?

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
08/09/2009 19:06

6m's...read the posts and understand the content. No doubt I will repeat my comment at some time just as you keep posting the same old worn out mantra's.



I don't need to try discrediting you. You're doing that job very well yourself.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
09/09/2009 00:19

Dear Geejay



re msg 19



what's the point of making a statement and not backing it up? .... unless it's a "fib" ?..... Oft repeated fibs do not the truth make... ;)

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
09/09/2009 03:27

History and time will always create debate.

1955-59, 1974.

Prior to, during and after.



2009 and time for resolve for now and the future.

Indiferent religions, creeds and race recognition.



Respect for land. In preference to greed.



Children of Cyprus being able to hold hands and show us the future.



Blame.



Its a word.



Blame.



Move on.



Blame.



Please dont teach this as part of a childs history lesson.



Blame.



The past is the past. Recovery period is nearing its time.



Blame.



Its hard to decide and continue to inflict.