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kiwikid

Joined: 18/08/2008 Posts: 496
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 11:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 18 in Discussion |
| Hi All For anyone who is interested in deep see fishing please check out our new web site http://www.fishingnorthcyprus.com We are going out most days at the moment as this is one of the best times for fishing, and we are catching manly Tuna. All tackle and safety equipment is provided as well as help for first time Anglers. You can keep what you catch, refreshments are also provided. We are departing from the Old Harbour in Girne, our boat is specially designed for fishing and we are licensed to take up to 8 anglers, though we are happy to go out with less. If you would like further information please give me a call on 0542 8555672 Thanks Angela |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 12:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 18 in Discussion |
| RE msg 1, Angela: Some essential questions not answered on your web site: How many hours does a trip last? Departure time? How much per person? How much for hiring the boat? Any extra's to pay? How far out at sea do you go? Thank you for your answers. P.S. The boat looks OK! |
kiwikid

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Message Posted: 01/10/2009 12:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 18 in Discussion |
| Hi dutch, We say leave between 4-5 hours per trip, we are manly doing sunset trips or sun rise as these are the best times for fishing, evening trips leave at 3:45 sun rise leaves at 0530. Distances depends on the fish, but any where from 5km to 12km out, we start fishing just after leaving the harbour as we have in the past started catching only a few km out. The cost is £50 per person for the trip or £300 for a private trip. These prices are for everything no hidden costs, we provide soft drinks and snacks, but not alochol, though you are welcome to bring your own. I hope that is a bit more informative. Thanks for you questions. Angela |
DutchCrusader


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Message Posted: 01/10/2009 13:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 18 in Discussion |
| Thanks, Angela! |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 13:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 18 in Discussion |
| Large scale, intensive commercial Tuna fishing is very disruptive to stocks unless it is strictly controlled. However, this is small scale, deep-sea angling and individual catches will hardly effect stocks at all. Provided the catches are eaten by the guests/crew or sold to restaurants (ie not thrown back dead) I do not see the harm in this type of fishing. |
DutchCrusader


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Message Posted: 01/10/2009 13:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 18 in Discussion |
| RE msg 5, Soothsayer: (...) So TRUE !! Be proud of your killings! (...) => I think you are aiming your arrows at the wrong group. It's the commercial fishing boats doing the damage - here in the Eastern Med and all over the world. A couple of sportsfishermen are absolutely irrelevant in the tuna problem - they live the dream, but most never catch a tuna anyway! |
Soothsayer

Joined: 19/11/2008 Posts: 134
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 14:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 18 in Discussion |
| "catch all the babies so they newer have a chance to breed and survive somehow" if you kill the babies it does have an effect. sorry to say this.. Dutch, I think offering fishing trips is COMMERCIAL fishing.. And if you had a look on the pictures you would agree that they only catch babies as tunas get bigger than 2m... http://www.fishingnorthcyprus.com/fishing_picture/fishing_photos%2031.htm Thank you for your valuable comments, but truth hurts - even if its ot a commercial factory ship or something like that.. It does not matter if you just kill one tuna or all.. Maybe it was he last one survived.. Maybe you should ask yourself why you are not catching anything? There simply nearly none left! The few left are hunted by "sports fisher", "fishing trips", "fishermen", factory boats, etc.. As I said, be proud of your killings, remember the face of the fish, it could have been the last one you ever see! Read the articles then you maybe are more aware of the situation! |
kiwikid

Joined: 18/08/2008 Posts: 496
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 14:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 18 in Discussion |
| Soothsayer The photo you have picked out was from a trip with six people,none of the fish were thrown back dead all were eaten, we do how ever have a catch and release policiy on our boat, we keep what we need and if the fish has not been injuried we release them, I think we are the only people here that do that, Also if you know so much about tuna then you will know that these are not Babies but adult Albacore tuna which do not get to the same size as the larger Blue fin Tuna, which is not as common in our waters. We are not the same as the large commercial boats which catch up to 2 ton a night collecting everything in the sea. Angela |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 14:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 18 in Discussion |
| RE msg 9, Angela: Well said - but the pros and cons in the sportsfishing debate will never meet. It's more or less like the smokers/non-smokers debate. And the smokers know the result of fanaticism... (Although this thread is about fishing trips, I await the non-smokers artillery now... ). |
Soothsayer

Joined: 19/11/2008 Posts: 134
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 15:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 18 in Discussion |
| a catch and release policy: is to catch and to release!! No matter how much! NOT: "we keep what we need and if the fish has not been injuried we release them" In one and the same sentence you lie to us! What injuries should a fish get when its on the hook - other than mouth injuries? So, you keep them all - or you release them all? did you ever ask yourself why there are nearly no bluefin tuna left? Bluefin do the travel trough our waters to the red sea.. As they breed there.. Like all other tunas.. Anyhow.. Do it as you like.. Just wanted to inform people and get their attention to this subject. Nice to see that you have a clear conscience.. BTW: albacore Tuna grow to 1,50m! and more. |
kiwikid

Joined: 18/08/2008 Posts: 496
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 15:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 18 in Discussion |
| A hook in the month will not kill a fish, one in the eye or gills will if it is released back in to the water! You will find that most deep sea sport fishing around the world uses this method. enough said. If anyone is interest in contacting me about fishing please do so Angela. |
Soothsayer

Joined: 19/11/2008 Posts: 134
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 16:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 18 in Discussion |
| Angela, you tried your best but your catch and release policy is following: "we keep what we need" and "release if not wounded" (Read your text in message 9) So, this simply means you keep ALL! Why? Simple: Either you need them for yourself and your customers (as you are not catching masses) or, they are wounded to badly due to the fact you pull them 1,5 to 2 m high out of the water with an iron gaff which is in the Gills (tell me if I am lying there!!). So all fish are wounded, also a good excuse to keep them. You dont need to get excited about this, just tring to get some light in the dark.. So all know whats going on.. Informative. |
BigMart

Joined: 26/02/2009 Posts: 423
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 17:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 18 in Discussion |
| Angela, just ignore any further posts by Soothsayer, his is obviously a anti-fishing fanatic and you will never change his mind, perhaps he ought to have a look at the Chinese torturing the Racoon dogs for the fur trade, that might give him something to thing about. Would love to join you for a trip soon, martin |
Rottolover


Joined: 21/06/2009 Posts: 519
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 17:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 18 in Discussion |
| Soothsayer, as an Australian who loves all things maritime, I have been incensed for many years by the methods used by Japanese and South American factory ships which have been decimating the bluefin tuna and toothfish populations in the Southern Ocean for decades. They take hundreds of tonnes in one net or on one longline, as well as destroying a massive by-catch each time. Also, I never enjoyed seeing sportfishing boats pulling in to the Fremantle Sailing Club and hanging up very large marlin to photograph. But I'm sorry to say that the kind of emotional nonsense you are writing will harm your cause more than help it. Fanaticism of any kind is always suspect with regard to veracity. There will in my opinion always be a place for recreational fishing with the proviso that all fish caught are either eaten or released safely. |
Brinsley

Joined: 04/04/2009 Posts: 6858
Message Posted: 01/10/2009 17:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 18 in Discussion |
| Soothsayer must be a vegan, another bunch of nutters! Richard |
timefore

Joined: 01/08/2008 Posts: 495
Message Posted: 02/10/2009 15:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 18 in Discussion |
| must say that when out on our boat the 'fish finder' shows plenty of fish - I just cant catch any of the b-----s! |
DONTY

Joined: 07/06/2007 Posts: 534
Message Posted: 02/10/2009 19:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 18 in Discussion |
| Im with the Kiwi! The effect that rod and line sport-fishing has on fish stocks in North Cyprus is miniscule. The real impact is done by the huge factory ships that can scoop up whole schools of fish, though I don't think there are many of those operating out of N. CYP? Anyone know the numbers? P.s. Ange, remind Ozgur that Ive got first dibs on the captains mate job |
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