Petition to reconise North Cyprus as Turkish Republic of North Cyprus

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
10/05/2008 15:00

hi guys

i know some of you guys would prefer north cyprus to be unified with the south but this is a petition for people who would like north cyprus to be reconised as the turkish republic of north cyprus this is a e-petition directly going to number 10 downing street, if you have the time please sign it and the petition closes on the 22nd of june 08 and so far has 687 signatures

thank you for your time and post if you have done so

warm regards

ukturk



http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/TRNC-Independent/



p.s also guys this another petition that the human rights group embargoed has set up for all bans and embargos to be lifted on the turkish cypriot people have a read and sign it if you agree click on the link sign petition after you have read the charter

http://www.embargoed.org/charter.php

thank you

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 13:29

Have just signed Erkan

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 13:35

thanx mark i knew could count on u

keep the emails coming!!!! lol

and ill keep sending them to u too

erkan

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 13:39

will do Erkan, you keep them coming too mate

Jachin



Joined: 05/02/2008
Posts: 99

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 13:49

Just signed it . It's the only way Cyprus can go.



David

wackyjim



Joined: 04/06/2007
Posts: 760

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 14:19

Erkan



Have signed also



Will send the bill to you shortly!!!!



Regards



Jim.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 14:21

thanks david knew you would sign

and you too jim just take it of the account you have got with me matey!!!! lol

regards to you both

erkan

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 14:24

OK I've just signed too, but.............



Please don't sign as MR & MRs or the UKTURK family, as this will only count a one signatory.



If there is more than one in the family that supports this issue, then have them sign individually.



Not that this Government will do anything about it. It doesn't do anything for it's own citizens let alone another countries.



But we all must try if we believe.



MC

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 15:15

I signed.



I dont want the North to be united with the South. History proves it would not work. A separate recognised state is the only way.

buddie 12


Joined: 30/10/2007
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 15:31

have.

just singed both.

buddie12

Robbie


Joined: 20/02/2008
Posts: 46

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 15:44

Just signed it



Good luck with the aviation one as well.



Robbie

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 16:05

thanks guys

like stevie said dont know where this will get us but we can only try

regards

ukturk

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 16:21

My wife and I are great believers in the TRNC and have signed the petition accordingly.



D n G.

Arty65


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 16:25

Ive now signed up to both. I'm going to have all my family members sign them as well.



Best of luck

Arty

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 16:57

Hi Erkan,

Both signed

Breezyboy

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 17:11

gottheyips,arty and breezyboy thanks!!!

i too personally feel north cyprus would do better on their own rather than being unified and the only solution i hope for is that these embargos are lifted and both states go it alone on a peacefull level

we can only pray for a good outcome

regards

ukturk (erkan)

andysue


Joined: 12/11/2007
Posts: 891

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 17:28

hi erkan ive signed too

stevie-d



Joined: 13/07/2007
Posts: 1420

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 18:01

Just Signed

stevie-d

Toon Army


Joined: 09/04/2007
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 18:59

Just signed .



Would do anything to help you lovely people.



Kind Regards



Christine

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 19:58

Just signed



ltd

ive@karsiyaka



Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 169

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 20:18

Hi Erkan,



Just signed the petition no 711



Cheers Ivan.

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 20:19

just signed , best solution

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 20:33

I've signed too

Prionsias


Joined: 14/03/2008
Posts: 21

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 20:49

Hi ukturk,



signed the petition to lift all bans embargos from the people of North Cyprus

not sure about the Turkish republic as I don't know enough about the politics of the country, but you don't need unity to live in Harmony.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 22:33

Just put my name to both. A just cause.



P.

smudge



Joined: 07/04/2008
Posts: 160

Message Posted:
29/04/2008 23:30

Dunnit

smudge

simma



Joined: 03/02/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 00:06

Signed, hope it's taken more seriously than the direct flights petition.

John.

Discovery


Joined: 21/04/2008
Posts: 36

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 00:07

Hi Erkan

Have just signed both petitions thanks for giving us the chance to register our feelings regarding how the TRNC must move forward to independance and the Greeks for once shut up .

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 00:44

Erkan,

After alot of serious thought and soul searching i have changed my mind re-unification and think it would be better to keep the north and south seperate as long as embargos are lifted and fair trading is allowed so i have signed the petition.Great posts today mate good luck and may your god go with you,



Warm Regards,

Paul.

Jo Valentine


Joined: 10/02/2008
Posts: 508

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 02:03

Hi Erkan

Just signed - whatever else happens the TRNC must get recognition. How could unification talks even be started when the two parties cannot go to the negotiating table with comparable international standing?

I'm far from wild about the idea of unification anyway, but that comes second; first we must keep fighting for recognition.

If I ever have to go into battle Erkan I hope you will be on my side!

Kind regards

Jo

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 09:37

Hi Erkan,



I've just signed as I beleve it is the best solution.



wynyardman

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 11:37

Erkan,



Mrs J Cooper, who is not a menber of this board, was happy to oblige also.



wyn

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 11:54

hi guys

thanks a lot for signing cos at the end of the day this affects us all not just locals but expats, tourists and family and riends who have someone or know someone who lives or visit cyprus

have spoke to izzet about this and hope to have this subject aswell as the aviation subject at the top of the subject pile for a few weeks this need as much covergae as possiable cos there are now 1500members on this forum and if all of us sign them and we know our friends will sign it we will bombard and jam their email inboxes

so keep on at them!!!!

warm regards

ukturk



p.s jo you dont even have to say or think that cos ill be at the front of line ready to do battle without a moments hesitation!!!!!

Biker



Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 13:22

Just signed

Good work.

Biker

gazza


Joined: 15/05/2007
Posts: 161

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 13:35

just signed the petition.



of to spain today, raining here in poole dorset will get rest of family to sign when we get back.



garry&becky

Kitty1


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 683

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 13:35

Thanks for the link Erkan, just signed mate x

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 14:54

Just signed keep it going,

Paul.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 14:54

thanks guys

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 20:10

Erkan,

Couldnt we keep this at the top,

Paul.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 20:21

Signed also





Cooper

bloggy


Joined: 10/03/2008
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 21:46

signed



Bloggy

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 21:50

signed by er indoors,

Paul.

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 22:00

Me too



MC

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
30/04/2008 22:55

749 signatures keep them coming,

Paul.

Kantara


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 661

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 00:06

Just signed.



kantara

HarryHornet



Joined: 18/07/2007
Posts: 291

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 11:51

i signed in 756 todate

hh

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 11:57

Not enough keep em coming.

kyrenia007


Joined: 19/08/2007
Posts: 88

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 12:00

Signed up and forwarded the link on to as many people I know.

stressedboy


Joined: 18/04/2008
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 12:20

just signed



Ken

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 13:27

come on guys there must be more than 30 something of us that belive and want north cyprus to be reconised out of over 1500 members that belong to this forum

ukturk

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 14:32

signed for both of us.

Hattikins

tilly-tina


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 14:33

Hi Uk T .... Make that 31 something !!! signed and emailed on both now

Tilly-Tina

li n lee


Joined: 09/10/2007
Posts: 144

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 21:10

add me to your list too matey hope i dont get government officials knocking on my door now though

paul90


Joined: 07/11/2007
Posts: 350

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 21:11

signed today

Gooses


Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 60

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 21:42

signed today

janjin



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 23:18

Good idea well done. 766 signed to date inc. mine.

torres


Joined: 10/12/2007
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
01/05/2008 23:50

just signed both



torres

helot



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
02/05/2008 10:15

I've signed and my Husband has I think it would be brilliant if this was to happen

marik


Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 88

Message Posted:
02/05/2008 12:33

us as well

beach resort


Joined: 15/03/2008
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
02/05/2008 13:55

i have too

big d


Joined: 25/06/2007
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
02/05/2008 13:58

hi just signed . coming out in june ,cant wait

RTgirl



Joined: 13/03/2007
Posts: 73

Message Posted:
02/05/2008 15:33

Signed up, best way forward. Here's hoping.... 777 signatures now.

Inca999


Joined: 25/11/2007
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
03/05/2008 08:37

Hi



Just signed so, has Hubby will get my kids to sign later when I see them



Anne

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
03/05/2008 14:56

thanks guys all you newbies to the forum aswell some of you oldies but still see some of you experianced posters on here have not signed is it because you dont belive north cyprus shuold be a indepdant reconised state?

regards

ukturk

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
04/05/2008 15:59

Keep bumping it up guys.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
04/05/2008 19:51

Sorted erkan.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
04/05/2008 19:57

And mrs jock.

brandy sour


Joined: 09/04/2008
Posts: 310

Message Posted:
05/05/2008 03:07

I did read some where on the net turkey was getting bored of supporting northern cyprus if that did happen where would they stand if talks failed they would be left to fend for them self because they get all their goods from turkey lets hope this does not happen

brandy sour


Joined: 09/04/2008
Posts: 310

Message Posted:
05/05/2008 03:15

Just signed

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
05/05/2008 05:01

have signed erkan



andre

ronaldo


Joined: 14/11/2007
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
05/05/2008 11:11

Hi Uk Turk

Just signed both petitions best of luck ! To all of us! the one about human rights I could not find UK in drop down list so put north cyprus address .

LOL ronaldo

robbo


Joined: 30/01/2008
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
05/05/2008 11:37

Signed robbo

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
05/05/2008 12:11

hi guys

robbo, andre, ronaldo, the jock family and brandy sour thanks for taking time out and signing these petitions like i said its not for me more for cyprus and eventually we will get heard one way or another!!!!



brandy sour i can tell you this will never happen firstly north cyprus name k.k.t.c which translates into english north cyprus turkish republic and turkey considers north cyprus one of its republic states, secondly over three quaters of its army are from the turkish mainland, and at least a quarter of its population are settlers from turkey with many buisness that are owned by turkish mainlanders, so it would be very difficult for turkey to just drop north cyprus of its familyhood

i for one read a lot of turkish newspapers and here in turkey they always say they will never leave its brothers and sisters of north cyprus out to dry!!!! and at the end of the day turkey has supported north cyprus and its turkic people for over 40 years so why would they stop now and also one of the reasons turkey has not joined the e.u sooner is because its stance on cyprus and not reconising the south as a indepadent country

hope this clears up things mate

take care and regards to you all and thanks for supporting such important subject even if it does nothing at least we can show the puppets there are many people who support the north cyprus plight especially people who are not turkish

people power!!!!

ukturk

brandy sour


Joined: 09/04/2008
Posts: 310

Message Posted:
05/05/2008 17:36

Thanks for clearing things up ukturk

bazzy p


Joined: 08/04/2008
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
05/05/2008 18:01

Hi Ercan,

just signed,

bazzyp

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
05/05/2008 20:06

Just signed the turtle family up

Over 800 now



No brainer for me ......got to be the best solution for everybody.

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
06/05/2008 01:37

just signed erkan no 803 rayzer

Janann


Joined: 07/03/2008
Posts: 47

Message Posted:
06/05/2008 22:38

Just signed

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
06/05/2008 23:29

Come on guys there are 1566 members on here i have just counted them all,



Regards,

Paul.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
07/05/2008 14:20

Just to add to your piece Erkan. I can't see Turkey giving up NC. I think the issue Turkey has, is that, it doesn't want to waste money in NC. It seems that a large part of the money it sends over goes in to providing government jobs i.e pen pushers. It wants NC to become self suffcient, to create more of a entrepeneurial culture, not one of beuaracracy. Has to be the right way to go.



Turkey also wants to reduce the number of troops on the island (to save money) and replace it with militaralised technical solutions.

Also too much Turkish blood was spilled in taking over NC. Could Britain give the Falklands to Argentina. It's unlikely. A friend of mine who fought in the Falklands war is going back there in November with 50 of his comrades. They saw many of their friends perish in that war and the scars remain.



I think also, deep down Turkey probably sees Cyprus as it's island, as the Ottoman empire ruled it fo 300 Years. At the same time it is only 40 miles from the Turkish mainland.



A GC who is part of the 'working group' (in finding a solution) stated that he had never seen so much willingness on both sides to come to a solution, however, at the same time he had never seen the two sides so far apart in their demands. (this was stated in the 'economist' magazine.) A solution has to be based on compromise, but neither seems willing to do so (same goes for Turkey). It is unbelievable that the GC's are still penalising the TC's, and actively doing so. This does not encourage good relations. Without compromise the frustration is going to grow and the enthusiasm for a solution is likley to wane.



The best solution has to be for the TRNC to be recognised, for the Embargoes to be lifted, for the GC's and TC's to be adeqautely compensated for land loss, for both sides to trade freely with each other and for freedom of movement to be encouraged and supported across the island. This may mean a hastened entry in to the Eurpoean Union for the TRNC. The advantage to many Brits of EU membership maybe that it becomes far easier to reside in the TRNC etc.



Just a side note, recently I was very very lucky to do some work in Singapore. It was really interesting to contrast Singapore with Cyprus. Both were Britsh Crown Colonies, and it is interesting to note how they have both developed since independence. Although most liberals would cringe, I think Northern Cyprus could learn a heck of a lot from Singapore about law and order. If the TRNC wants to grow and develop, to become entrepeneurial it has to impose much greater discipline. There are still too many stories of people being ripped off and people like Gary Robb walking around freely.

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
07/05/2008 17:56

Signed today

Brono

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
07/05/2008 20:27

Hello Mark,

Great post mate hope you are well and keeping busy.Its a good point that you make regarding the fact that both sides are willing to talk which is great but i still think there will be alot of points that they will be so far apart on that it will be almost impossible to agree.



One point i picked up from the press the other day was the fact that the french minister of foreign affairs was quoted as saying that "there is no question of Turkey joining the eu if it fails to recognise the republic of cyprus".its worth remembering that the french do actually carry alot of clout,

Regards,

Paul.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
08/05/2008 13:49

Hi Paul, I am good mate, loving the English sun - long may it continue. Hope you are well too mate?



Yeah, the French do carry alot of clout. I think they are inherently biased against Turkey though. Not sure they are wise to threaten Turkey. Turkey is a proud nation, like France, and may not react well to beng pushed in to a corner. Certainly Turkey is a little vulnerable right now, due to it's economy, mostly stemming from it's internal politics, but Turkey can probably offer Europe alot more than some of the more recent acquisitions in to the EU. Turkey can offer it's young and increasingly well educated population.



Didn't the two leaders of the North and South get together yesterday? Do you know how that went? It's quite excitng seekng what is going to happen next. Does anybody know what language the negotiations are taking place under? Is it English?

As well as the many, well stated sticking points, I think language is going to be a major problem. For the two sides to develop a good relationship they need to build trust. It was demonstrated to me recently how difficult trust is to develop without a common language (certainly over the long term)

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
09/05/2008 03:31

It probably is English, as having taught it in Istanbul I found everyone wanted to

learn it. It is the international language But I still learnt Turkish & also Gaelic

Dikensis gul olmaz!

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
09/05/2008 03:34

It probably is English, as having taught it in Istanbul I found everyone wanted to

learn it. It is the international language But I still learnt Turkish & also Gaelic

Dikensis gul olmaz!

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 231

Message Posted:
09/05/2008 10:12

Have just signed



Ll

Aussie


Joined: 17/06/2007
Posts: 657

Message Posted:
09/05/2008 16:07

Can non British citizens sign these U.K. petitions or does it cause a problems with the validity of the petition ?

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
09/05/2008 16:31

sign away more the better it show that other nationalties are taking notice of this problem!!!!!!!!

regards

ukturk

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
19/07/2008 21:09

Just signed also read David Haye world cruiserweight champion resides in kyrenia even wears turkish flag on his shorts because he loves trnc that much point being wouldnt it be a signature to have and while he is signing a photo worth thinking about or not

Chris


Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 454

Message Posted:
19/07/2008 22:22

Hi UK Turk



Has this petition now closed as I noticed it said 22nd June 2008 at the beginning





Chris

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
19/07/2008 23:32

There are two petitions

Chris


Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 454

Message Posted:
20/07/2008 00:44

Hi rayz1



Yes I did notice that, just thought they ended same date.





Chris

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
20/07/2008 13:58

Ime assuming one has but bottom one is still running as i signed my name to it without problems

schnib


Joined: 24/05/2008
Posts: 101

Message Posted:
21/07/2008 14:14

hi uk turk just added my name to the EMBARGOE petition-regards.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
21/07/2008 15:59

Just signed Embargo.



Has anyone UK based suggested petitioning our local MP's, MEP's for support?