8500 Turkish Cypriot properties to be given away in south

malsancak


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 09:41

Read http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com

Mal

PeeCee


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 10:47

Thanks for this - puts a further perspective on this issue!

sporty


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 10:55

well,well,well! if its true?-talk about shooting yourself in the foot!!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 11:13

Now if Mal would be good enough to post the link in the CY Mail on HERE for us to *read* it we can discuss..



Mal may be misquoting ( sensationalising ?) ..



IF true, then of course the 'moral high ground' would be lost and it would be tantamount to accepting of the status quo.

dobbo



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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 11:18

Excellent idea, time to move forward no point in living in the past, all Cypriots can get on with there lives instead of living in limbo. Surely it would not be to difficult to set up a compensation system for all north and south.

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 11:49

He has posted the link...doh!

malsancak


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 11:52

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=48214&archive=1



Mal

malsancak


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 11:54

"‘All refugees will get title deeds’



THE GOVERNMENT’S aim is to provide all refugees with title deeds and all efforts are being made in that direction, Interior Minister Neoklis Silikiotis said yesterday.



“In mid 2010, procedures will start to offer 2,500 plots to refugees living in Turkish Cypriot properties,” Silikiotis explained. “The aim is to provide refugees living in houses or estates built on Turkish Cypriot land with 8,500 title deeds.”



The minister didn’t exclude the possibility of expropriating the land by securing the consent of the Turkish Cypriot owners."

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 12:03

Dearest Dee..



re msg 6



>>He has posted the link...doh!<<



Hmm, that would be why it has appeared - as requested in msg 7 - AFTER your post ... I think I can now see why it took you SO long to see those Minarets in the "rump" Roc ;)



re msg 7



Mal.. thanks for posting the link to the actual article you mention.. as I suspected, your article does mislead..



1/ >> The minister didn’t exclude the possibility of expropriating the land by securing the consent of the Turkish Cypriot owners. <<



2/ >> procedures will start to offer 2,500 plots to refugees living in Turkish Cypriot properties << that doesn't mean the govt will 'nationalise' TC owned land / property without the permission of the owner..



So, it would appear the GCs STILL hold the 'moral upper hand' - they ain't proposing to take a TCs land/ property and allow the new 'owner' to sell it for private gain...



BIG DIFFERENCE..



Mal could it be you were being 'sensationalist' to bump up hits ?!

millzer


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 12:11

If this is accurate reporting, then is this not the first signs that both sides are finally starting to realise that exchanges of land and or compensation is the only way to go if there is ever to be a settlement. How can the GC hardliners now continue to insist that everyone should have the right to return to their pre -74 properties for there to be any settlement when they are contemplating doing this?



This could well be the first 'softening up' of the GC's into acceptance that exchanges/compo will take place. I also think that the new Greek president (or PM whatever he is) visiting Cyprus so soon after his parties election win could also be the start of moves towards getting both sides ready for a referendum. Apparantly he wants to maintain good relations with Turkey and wants to see a solution found.

malsancak


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 12:14

msg 9, M6 where are these 8500 title deeds coming from? I read that GCs are being given title deeds and somehow these are going to appear from nowhere. This is not a might/if situation it's a we are going to do it statement. Perhaps you're right and these 8500 GCs are going to be moved into new properties, but equally right could be a situation where the system of exchange is put into place or the deeds are going to be issued without going through a lengthy negotiation with the original TC owners.

I did find the article a little confusing I must admit but I just didn't imaging people would be moved out of their homes, ones which they might have lived in for 35 years.

Mal

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 12:39

Dear Mal



re 11



I thank you for responding - I note you didn't 'bite' on my valid comment that your header on NCFP was at best sensationalising and more likely plain inaccurate.



For sure some settlement needs to be found and GCs SHOULD be encouraged to test out TRs local remedy.

lapta29


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 12:47

6 ms you are Quite right ......you were being 'sensationalist' to bump up hits.



Still quite an interesting read.

malsancak


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Message Posted:
10/10/2009 12:52

Re msg 12, I think you'll find that it was in the vein of wondering what the hell the implications of the Cyprus Mail heading could be, i.e. "‘all refugees will get title deeds’ . Perhaps you're saying that I've sensationalised a sensational heading? Yes, 8500 GC families might be evicted from TC properties next year, but surely this is equally unlikely. I just got the impression they would be staying and given title deeds, because why else is "title deeds" relevant to the article?

Mal

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
11/10/2009 13:24

No Mal,



That is NOT what the CY Mail was saying..



8500 GC families aren't going to get 'turfed out' unless there is somewhere else for them to go..



IF you REALLY knew the FACTS, you'd know that a few TCs have decided to contact the 'Guardian' and the GCs HAVE to move out ....

malsancak


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Message Posted:
18/12/2009 21:39

M6, looks like I was right - http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2009/12/18/gcs-demand-title-deeds-to-tc-property-in-the-south/

exnavalperson


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Message Posted:
20/12/2009 19:06

Looks like 6m jumped in a little to soon.

Moover321


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Message Posted:
20/12/2009 22:57

6m always thinks the GC have the "moral high ground" - and for him the history of Cyprus starts in 1974 which at best is laughable



He sees TC as Cypriots (albeit a minority) and Turks from the mainland including the Turkish troops as the 'problem'! He forgets if it wasn't for Turkey the TC would have been wiped off the island and the only land the GC would have given to TC would be that for burying the dead TC and even for that they probably would have sued in the EU and UK courts for compensation!



The problem with titles in the ROC is effectively GC have taken TC land but the government does not acknowledge this 'officially' i.e. issuing titles - but it is still a de facto appropriation of TC land i.e. Larnaca Airport!



Now it seems that GC have been 'promised' titles by the GC government of TC land



And 6m can never take it when he is wrong LOL Too much for his ego I suspect