Best VPN to watch uktv channels abroad

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 05:22

The best VPN i found so far is vpnuk which costs only 6.50 pounds a month without any upfront set-up fees.

Quality is very good,i experienced no buffering problems even on prime time using bbc iplayer,Zattoo and also tvcatchup.com.



The worst is certainly MMMMMM´s vpn which has a price extremely high,20 pounds a month,and also requires a 10 pounds setup fee for monthly subs.

This price has a very unjustifiable profit margin,Consumer Associations should have a look at that.

kimig1


Joined: 22/06/2008
Posts: 73

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 07:04

I am using another VPN service, but due to the poor bandwidth of my internet here, it is difficult to watch British TV, even downloaded ( and the BBC insists on deleting some of the progs before i even get to watch them!) Do you have similar problems, please?

Cheers

kimig

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 08:36

Still don’t know anyone who has the system that can recommend it to me.

I am slowly losing interest in what seemed like a good idea but due to total lack of consideration for potential customers so I am sticking with what I have for the time being.

Chegwin

jazzaktai


Joined: 14/04/2009
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 09:19

google my private network .£5 a month simple setup instuctions i have been using for 6 months no problems download all british tv or stream with 1 meg connection

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 09:23

RE msg 4, jazzaktai: (...) google my private network (...)

=> Google isn't the problem, but some details about your "private network" would be handy.

jazzaktai


Joined: 14/04/2009
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 09:27

sor ry dc thats the name of the company :my private network : type that into google and you will get the information . phew some people

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 09:47

and they laughed when i said i was getting a 4m dish...



i'll be thinking of you when we are watching X Factor on Sat night.... ;0)

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 10:03

People actually watch X Factor?







Wow.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 10:04

Cyprusunited



re msg 1



))



>>The worst is certainly MMMMMM´s vpn which has a price extremely high,20 pounds a month,and also requires a 10 pounds setup fee for monthly subs.



This price has a very unjustifiable profit margin,Consumer Associations should have a look at that.<<



Please could you tell the users your login and password for when you used the system and tested it.. Please don't worry about posting it..

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 10:05

The X Factor, oh Nick !!!!!!!!!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 10:08

RE msg 6, jazzaktai: I know, phew, some people... Sorry, I misunderstood you. If you had written [my private network] I would not have asked... Thanks for the link: interesting.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 10:24

mess 10 - count yourself lucky - the Monger's rock round to watch it every Saturday - last week the highlight of the evening was hearing Mrs M singing "I will always love you" completely out of key....

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 10:24

Dear Kimig1



re msg 2



You must be using the Beeb's download manager.. YES, the progs only stay watchable for 30 days - or 7 if you start to watch 'em and don't finish...



It's due to something called DRM Digital Rights Management



In you part of the world the 'infrastructure' for fast downloading is not as good as the UK... many VPN services limit downloads throughput to 1 mbit - so even if the connection IS fast you still get 'stalling' - making downloading for later playback from the hard drive more preferable.



You just have to remember to WATCH it..



VPNs are best suited to folk on the move, or on hols, or where there is no Satellite alternative..

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 15:26

MMMMMM



re msg 9

"could you tell the users your login and password for when you used the system and tested it"



Do you have a short memory?

I don´t have to tell you any private data,the same as you did when I asked you something about yourself related to another topic.

charlie15


Joined: 23/04/2008
Posts: 131

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 15:48

cyprusunited



I've just looked at the VPNUK site and it says £13.50 per month. How do you get it for £6.50?

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 16:38

charlie15



re15



No.Look on the website,there is a 6.50 pounds option for UK channels.

I´m using that and works at full speed on Zattoo,bbc iplayer and tvcatchup.com

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 16:45

Dear 'carl from paphos' re 15



>>Do you have a short memory?

I don´t have to tell you any private data,the same as you did when I asked you something about yourself related to another topic.<<



No, as a matter of fact I have GREAT memory.. it's called a database - and it logs emails, IPs, etc.



There is NOTHING 'private' about providing me with a login id to MY server...



You, 'sir' have started this thread with a HUGE whopper.. you have NEVER *tried* my service... it's OK, I expected nothing less from you.. :(



You asked me to 'prove' someone's pay tv service was 'hacked', and you were given a PERFECTLY good reason why I could not and would not - if I still could.. ..



There is a HECK of a difference now........you have posted one of my business services 'sucks'... and you've never tried it )))))))



Go on , post the login...It is MY property..not yours.. I KNOW you CAN'T ..'cos you NEVER had one !



Did you know there is a law about posting fibs/ defaming.?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 16:47

Dear Charlie



please excuse me.. I meant msg 14 ! :(



In my excitement and joy at the poster before your's cardinal error, I was a little too quick

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 16:50

I find it more than ridiculous that cyprusunited and 6xm (both from South Cyprus) are again fighting their VPN war on this board. "cyprusunited" from Paphos is now trying to damage 6xm in the third thread in a couple of days. It's high time - imo - one of the Admins puts an end to this nonsense and endless repeated questions and accusations.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 16:57

Hi Hans,



I'm not even from 'South Cyprus' - wherever that is... ;) But I do have clients, biz and mates on the island.. some of whom WANT to listen to my advice.. !



I suppose I could have gone running to a mod, bleating about 'Carl's' fib - the started off the thread - but that ain't my style... I'd rather hang him out to dry, as now he has to put up - or shut up.. but I guess that's up to the mods.



I don't know if you noticed.. but the last thread hit nearly 2100 posts..



I back up my db every night and I trust you to be an adjudicator.. I will send you a copy of my last backup and 'Carl' can then send you his login.. I'm sure you'll not see it match up.. and you can advise the members accordingly..



Is that ok ?....

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 17:00

DutchCrusader

I live in a free country where there is something called free speech.

I started this thread about VPNs without breaking any forum rules and I explicitly say to the moderator that I want this topic to continue.

If you DutchCrusader don´t like my thread then don´t read it,how can you prevent me from expressing my personal opinions?

Please learn what democracy means and is about.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 17:09

))



'Carl from paphos'



Free speech is all very well, but if you discredit someone - knowing that the info you post on a public forum is a demonstrable lie, that is a VERY different kettle of fish.



Now.. I KNOW you are lying and can PROVE it.. If you don't think Hans is a suitable person, nominate any mod on here.. I don't mind who..

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 17:21

MMMMMM



I have just read your recent posts.

Can you read?

Did i write that i have an account with your VPN?

NO,never i would spend that much for a VPN.

I said,and strongly confirm,that your price of 20 pounds a month is incredibly high for market standards,and you also apply a 10 pounds set up fee.

My current account is with vpnuk and the quality is perfect.

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 17:24

MMMMMM how do you justify the highly profit margin you ask?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 17:28

AHA, worming time..



NO you said >>The worst is certainly MMMMMM´s vpn<<<



How COULD you know that -if you hadn't TRIED it?!





you went on to say:





>> which has a price extremely high,20 pounds a month,and also requires a 10 pounds setup fee for monthly subs. <<



and then



>>this price has a very unjustifiable profit margin,Consumer Associations should have a look at that.

<<



HOW, could you know? )



I think you need to apologise..

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 17:31

re msg 24



>>MMMMMM how do you justify the highly profit margin you ask?<<



The CORRECT format of the question should be :



How do you justify my price being more.. or even a LOT more..



*Contention*... the number of users 'fighting' for bandwidth.. I DID allude to my service being aimed at biz..



I have clearly posted this in 'ding dongs' with Washerman that I am VERY expensive.. ;)

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 17:46

MMMMMM



re 25



"HOW, could you know?"



Are you serious?

Your price list is on your website!

I do not need to have an account to your overpriced VPN to know your prices!



And the "biz" you mentioned maybe like to be charged more because they are "biz"?

When for 6.50 pounds you can have perfect picture even on primetime no matter if you are a private or a "biz".

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 18:26

Anyone tried the UKTVDIRECT sytem yet?

Feedback would be good if it really does work.



Chegwin

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 18:34

Chegwin please this thread is about VPNs,i don´t want it to be closed for talking about uktvdirect.

Thanks for your comprehension.

Lincsman



Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 19:45

Help please!



What internet connections are people using to download in TRNC?



I thought the players(BBC I player, ITV player etc) were streaming only, can you download from them?

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 20:01

Hi Lincsman.

Yes you can use bbc iplayer to download programs.

But you need to use a VPN,which is the object of this thread.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 20:15

cyprusunited

You appear to have a personal vendetta against Mark. This board does not condone personal vendettas.

If this is the case then take your vendetta of board.

AJ

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 20:21

I would advise all members looking for UKTV via the internet to use http://www.filmon.com it is more professional and easier to use than the rest and is currently FREE and even when they start charging it will be much, much cheaper than the service offered by mmmmmm and others and their website is not thrown together by a 2 year old.



http://www.filmon.com the best way to get UKTV via the net in Cyprus

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 20:26

AlsancakJack - not that i need protection but how come you jump in to protect "mmmmmm" when you do nothing to stop him from posting negative comments about others? It seems the the moderation on this forum sometimes can be very one sided.

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 20:44

AlsancakJack



I have no intention whatsoever to take a personal vendetta against Mark.

I only want to discuss about VPNs with everyone interested.

Please keep my thread open,i am doing nothing wrong.

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 21:33

Tried now Filmon.com

Well spotted Charles!

It does not require a VPN and at the moment is free.

But on the website they say will start soon charging a monthly fee of 10Euros.

So in that event I´d still go cheaper with my current account from vpnuk at 6.50 pounds a month.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 21:38

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'



re msg 27



Please don't be obtuse..



You stated ( re VPNs)



>>The worst is certainly MMMMMM´s vpn which has a price extremely high,20 pounds a month,and also requires a 10 pounds setup fee for monthly subs. <<



You have admitted you haven't tried it ... after a fair degree of squirming ... now kindly admit that you *can't* say it is the 'worst' ... I would contend you get's what you pay for ! ...



The issue of my service being HUGELY expensive ( explained so even you could comprehend !) is NOT at issue ..



It really is time to admit you started this thread to try and 'knock me' and to apologise...



If you haven't tried it you simply ain't qualified to knock it, right ?! ..

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 21:38

I won’t talk about UKNOTDIRECTTV then cos I have nothing to say about it cos I haven’t seen it...........

Nor has anyone else by the lack of repsonse to my earlier questions.



Bonjour

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 22:02

I promised AlsancakJack that i want to talk about VPNs and not having a personal discussion with MMMMMM.

Please mmmmmm don´t try yourself to hijack my thread with the only purpose of making the moderator close it.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 22:48

uktvdirect

Re message 34

Me protect Mark? now your having a laugh. Mark will be the first person to tell you that he has been admonished before by me for personally targeting a certain other business that is trading in the TRNC. My opinion is that personal vendettas should have no part on this forum.

AJ

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 22:54

AJ - Fair enough as long as its the same for everyone, No problem

notthereyet


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
14/10/2009 23:39

Tried the Filmon.com and thought what a good idea these VPN,s which this thread has introduced me to despite the bickering. Question for the two combatants is there a way to try any of the two systems you are arguing about, for say a week to see if they work on peoples broadband connections before subscribing. Sat here on my UK connection i am very impressed with the performance of the Filmon.com service is it that good over in Cyprus? and if so what about the other two mentioned services.

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 00:04

notthereyet



Filmon.com working fine here in Paphos.

You can test for free now until they decide to charge 10 Euros a month to watch the UKTV channels.

Thanks to Charles (uktvdirect) for having spotted this and suggested here.



Chegwin



sorry Chegwin for not answering your request about uktvdirect,if AlsancakJack agrees i can quickly tell you my experience.

I know for certain this service exists,an installer called Steve has got cards for it.

But dish size required can vary between different parts of the Island.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 00:38

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'



are you 'having a larf..' ?!



You started this thread by telling darn-right lies about something you haven't tried and FIVE times I've asked you to withdraw the remark...



I guess it is easy to tell fibs when you hide you ID.... ?

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 00:44

mmmmmm



AlsancakJack has already warned you before (unsurprisingly) for your rude methods.

I´m not getting caught by your technique to make threads a personal battle.

I want to fully comply the rule set by moderator AJ to continue my thread.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 00:47

Dear notthereyet



re msg42



>> there a way to try any of the two systems<<







1/ IF you are in the UK WHY would you NEED a VPN?!



2/ Do you remember this..?



>>I have been reading your propaganda and smarmy comments about the TRNC and all matters regarding it`s exsistance for over a year now and have moved forums just to get away from your drivel. Never liked you never will, bit of a cyber space bully and a clever dick with a lot of time on your hands to boot.<<



Do you STILL feel the same? ..



If you want THIS "cyber space bully and a clever dick's"... services - you''ll need to talk nicer to me !



The great thing about having one's own biz is that you can pick and choose the clients ;)

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 00:54

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'



re msg 45



Let me make this CRYSTAL clear.. I'm not trying to 'get your thread closed' - I already told you that ain't my style..



I AM trying to get you to be HONEST - to be a REAL man.. and not hide behind some sort of anonymity ..!



SIXTH time... you started of this thread by posting a LIE... it's very simple. Tell the folks the TRUTH...



If you can't do that then YES... I would ask for the thread to be closed ... or the offending line ( and any quotes thereafter, to be removed)



You simply don't have a 'leg' to stand on...

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 00:54

I think notthereyet is not interested in your overpriced VPN,but in the other services such as Filmon.com and the cheaper VPNs.

notthereyet


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 01:17

Msg 46



VPN Dont need it at the moment getting as much info before arrival.



Asking general questions for anybody who may be trying to get some info inbetween the bickering.



YES I DO ReMEMBER (and nothing changes) Didnt say i wanted your services mate and your arrogant attitude does not suprise me in the slightest take your biz and ram it. The good thing about having competition is you can choose your company

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 04:25

I confirm every single word of my VPN reviews.

Mark is purposely spamming my thread in order to force moderators to close it.

I hope AlsancakJack does not fall under this plan.

I want to continue this thread talking about VPNs to watch UKTV channels in Cyprus.

And I think other members are interested too and can agree with me,for example notthereyet,uktvdirect,beanbag and others.

kimig1


Joined: 22/06/2008
Posts: 73

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 08:24

Mark - yes, I understand about the 30 days - but mine is giving up as soon as it's downloaded! And if there is somewhere on the BBC site which tells me when the prog is due to expire, I certainly haven't found it. And if I download to Media Player, it won't play - as you say a DRM issue. I have tried all over the web to find out how to restore the DRM, which I certainly USED to have, but most of the offered solutions didn't work, or indeed crashed my system. All I want is just a little BBC TV - after many, many years of



unless you know any better....?



All I want is just a little BBC TV - after many, many years of paying UK TV licences, is that really too much to ask?



cheers

Kimig

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 09:21

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'



re msg 50



>>I confirm every single word of my VPN reviews. <<



)) SEVEN TIMES..?



>>The best VPN i found so far is..<<

>>The worst is certainly MMMMMM´s vpn<<



Did you TRY it.?



NO... although it took half the thread to get you to admit it ..



>>Mark is purposely spamming my thread in order to force moderators to close it. <<



NO.. Mark is pointing out that you started the thread with a LIE ..



>>I want to continue this thread talking about VPNs to watch UKTV channels in Cyprus.



And I think other members are interested too and can agree with me,for example notthereyet,uktvdirect,beanbag and others.<<



'uktvdirect' only JOINED to advertise his service



'beanbag' only contributed on the 'uktvdirect' thread and went trappist, when he got confused about his location



So that leaves 'notthereyet'



The members MIGHT be interested in reviews / discussions that don't involve demonstrable LIES... penny dropping, yet ?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 09:28

Dear Kimig1



re msg 51



>>but mine is giving up as soon as it's downloaded!<<



Sorry, do you mean the prog is unplayable ( if so what is the error msg, please )



or disappears ?!



>>if there is somewhere on the BBC site which tells me when the prog is due to expire, I certainly haven't found it<<



When you download a prog, it tells you how long you have got until it expires..



When you visit a show on the BBC's site



e.g.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007tcw7



You can see how long it is available..



Can't help re the 'disabling' the DRM protection.. sorry..



If I have misunderstood anything, feel free to respond.. and if this thread gets locked - I could start a new one - help with VPNs !

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 09:35

re msg 49



notthereyet



>>Didnt say i wanted your services mate<<



) .. course you didn't say >> Question for the two combatants is there a way to try any of the two systems you are arguing about, for say a week to see if they work on peoples broadband connections before subscribing.<< ....

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 09:41

remsg 43



"Thanks to Charles (uktvdirect) for having spotted this and suggested here"

filmon was mentioned in a few threads even as far back as June, if you were looking at his forum back then....

so no need to thank charles for anything!

kimig1


Joined: 22/06/2008
Posts: 73

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 12:05

Message 53

Message 53



Thanks Mark - you have solved ONE of the BBC probs - you are quite right, the Beeb do mention when the progs will expire, and in future I will check before I start downloading - why doesn't it show that on the iPlayer site? (OK you don't have to answer that!)



The other prob is harder. If the Beeb give me the option of downloading to WMP, why won't it actually play, without the DRM rights which presumably the BBC have given me....?



(Rhetorical question, it is neither your fault nor mine. But why do they offer me that option, if it is not available?)

BIG SIGH......

Cheers

kimig

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 12:35

Hi, James1970



is the spirit of fairness and honesty..



'Charles' would appear to have brought up filmon



http://tinyurl.com/yzy95as

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 12:39

Hi Kimig1





re 56



Glad we got part 1 out of the way



part 2..



Try here:



http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/



I found I had issues with playback and had to uninstall, and even fo into the registry ( a hidden config settings directory) to stop playback probs



sorry, if I'm teaching Grandma - so to speak, but I found my answer on the message board part of my link.. GOOD luck ;)

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 15:14

6m,

sorry but have to disagree with you:

uktvnotsodirects thread first mentuioned filmon 04/08/09



harryroberts mentioned it 24/06/09 http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/17655.asp when filmon was getting posts all over the net.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 15:20

re msg 59



James1970



I most humbly APOLOGISE.. to YOU and' Harryroberts'...... that's one gets when one puts in "filmon" instead of the website address in the CY44 google search :(



What makes it MORE embarrassing is that I contributed on that thread :o



Wouldn't it GREAT if, our "Carl from Paphos' could admit howlers, too ?...

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 16:05

Hi kimig1

What VPN are you using?

I´m using vpnuk on a Windows Vista PC for 6.50 pounds a month and have no problems in downloading and watching bbc programs.



I´m happy this thread is useful for members,and I thank again uktvdirect for his suggestion of Filmon.com which I did not know about and nobody else had cared to mention it recently.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 18:09

'Carl from Paphos'



It WILL be useful for members if you could be a little HONEST



1/ It has been established - beyond all doubt - that you haven't tried a VPN service you defamed when you started this thread... and you THINK by ignoring this - it will go away..?



2/ It has also been quite clearly established ( to my 'embarrassment' ! ) that we owe our thanks to 'harryroberts'. - yet you persist in attributing some'thanks' to someone else ?!



Now *I* contribute re Political / historical debate / some Satellite stuff and comms stuff on here.. I'm 'tolerated' .. I bring 'something' to the table.... and if I was 'fishing for biz' I'd surely not be 'winding up' a lot of folk with some of my CY viewpoints..



WHAT is your expertise / agenda ? It can't be prof. sat installations and clearly it isn't objective reviews...

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 18:28

And continue to contribute in the political/historical threads then,but please stop spamming my thread thanks.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 18:41

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'



Kindly demonstrate your knowledge of where I have 'spammed' ( advertised ) on this thread...?



For now - 8 times, could you finally do the 'right thing' about your LIE?



Your first post on this thread..



>>The best VPN i found so far is..<<



>>The worst is certainly MMMMMM´s vpn<<



Once again.. You hadn't tried it.. so be honest and tell us you REAL agenda ?

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 18:42

mmmmmm - sorry to jump into your rant with cyprusunited but i think that you are being a little unfair to him as he did not actualy question the quality of your service from what i understood of the following:



"The worst is certainly MMMMMM´s vpn which has a price extremely high,20 pounds a month,and also requires a 10 pounds setup fee for monthly subs. This price has a very unjustifiable profit margin,Consumer Associations should have a look at that."



I think maybe he could have worded his post a little better but as far as i can see his only negative statement against your business was price related and I have to say after shopping around the net looking at various different companies he has a point your price seems to be 2, 3 or 4 times more expensive than most and looking at the over all quality of your website which would not inspire me to part with my hard earned money seems a very expensive product.



I personaly would rather invest in something like http://www.filmon.com

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 18:55

Yes uktvdirect Filmon is still working fine for me at the moment,absolutely no buffering problems.

Really there is no reason why people should spend more than 10 Euros a month for watching UKTV channels.

And up to now it´s even free!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 19:18

re 65 ))) on Q.. the 'man on holiday' appears



>> i think that you are being a little unfair to him [ 'carl from paphos' ] as he did not actualy question the quality of your service from what i understood of the following: <<



OK, let's look AGAIN..



>>The best VPN i found so far is ** ( no spamming, right?) which costs only....Quality is very good,i experienced no buffering problems even on prime time using bbc iplayer,Zattoo and also tvcatchup.com. <<



Next sentence..



>>The worst is certainly MMMMMM´s vpn which has a price extremely high,....<<



English IS your first language, isn't 'Charles' ? 'Carl' started off a thread comparing two VPN services - he only looked at the PRICE of one and proclaims it to be the 'worst' .. I wonder does he ( or you) have a CLUE about contention rates, QoS, etc..



You need that holiday, 'Charles' .. you weren't good at addressing legit 'issues' of you own..

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 19:37

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'





does 'film on' need a VPN to use it ?

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 19:44

Mark

Rather than continue this war how about some information regarding:



'I wonder does he ( or you) have a CLUE about contention rates, QoS, etc..'



Again this thread is going the way of the last one. Lets have some constructive info rather than the usual slagging off of each other, if you cannot achieve this then it has become yet another thread of absolute crap.

AJ

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 19:45

mmmmmm - I will answer your last question - does http://www.filmon.com need a VPN to use it ?



NO it does not as far as i am aware and if it does its integrated within the product so no complications setting it up or SET UP FEES as with some others, but i am sure that in the spirit of checking out the competition you will have checked it out already especialy as its FREE and will have realised that you just simply download the player and click on the channel you want to watch and off you go.

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 19:45

Filmon works without using a VPN,because UKTV channels work without the need of a UK ip address.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 19:50

re msg 71



So, if you use film on - no NEED for a VPN then .. right?



You temporarily saved users who need a VPN to watch UK TV a fortune...



Are there any DOWNSIDES to film on you are aware of ?

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 19:52

mmmmmm - anyway you are the expert as you keep telling us techno deficiant thicko's so i am sure you are more qualified to answer this than the rest of us.



All i will say http://www.filmon.com is by far the best quality, easiest to use & slickest product i have ever seen for watching UK tv channels via the internet so far and at the moment its FREE.

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 19:55

mmmmmm - Are there any DOWNSIDES to film on you are aware of ?



Are you leading up to something here? please do not play your usual games what are the downsides to it if there are any?

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 20:05

A very good VPN alternative is http://www.vpnuk.info where i got an account for 6.50 pounds monthly with NO SET UP FEES to pay upfront.

Nice deal considering that with just the setup fee needed by some other providers I can get nearly two months of viewing here!

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 20:36

filmon will be come a subscription service later this year

there is some debate on the various filmon threads on the net about whether or not it will be allowed to stream the main uk tv channels outside of the uk or not -

and filmon did get rather bollocked (filmon owners words!) when they put sky sports on there "for testing purposes".

you can get rid of the filmon advertising logo by deleting the appropriate file form the filmon programme folder.

there are many other p2p sites that is using the same technology as filmon...

download vlcplayer

http://rapidshare.com/files/272763894/V1L1C.rar

and then download uktvplayer - (dont know if i am the first to mention this tho - but i am sure credit will go to charles!)

https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1808775/britishtv-windows.zip

same type of system as filmon (but filmon does have a huge catalogue of programmes they have the rights to show), same type of quality as filmon, more channels than UKTVDIRECT!

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 20:37

re 69



Hi AJ ! I hope you haven't come to break up the 'party' ... this is just a trial run of a 'future peace and reconciliation committee' .. 'Carl' started off the thread to test if we can spot fibs.. I think he was stone-walling rather well ..



I hope you will confirm *I* have asked you to come on here to 'help' me out !



*Contention* - the number of users sharing the connection - for example 10:1 , 100:1 .. the more users the slower data throughput will be ..One company might charge 6.50/ month and allow a contention ration of 100:1 = 650/month revenue.. another might charge 20 /month but only permit 10 users .. rev = 200 ..



*QoS* - Quality of Service http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service - basically traffic management.This costs and some cos simply rent servers that they don't administer



So, in this simple example the company charging 20/ month is going to offer it's client's a faster connection - which may be 'Carl' needs to think about ?!

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 20:48

hey mmmmmm please do not try and compare your offering to that of http://www.filmon.com a massive company with millions at their disposal as you are the LIDL cola compared with the Coca-Cola and will never be able to offer a service that compares to their quality, choice and stabilty unless of course you too have a quality commercial product that attracts lots of investors, will this ever happen? I doubt it but nothings impossible so you never know. You do need to keep your envy under control though as it will be your downfall as you seem to attack everything that you either do not do as well or wish you had of thought of in the first place.

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 21:02

re 78

even with my limited understanding i know that filmon and http://www.uktvabroad.com are two completely different services so you cannot actually compare them.



(i could say "thats like comparing your ahem "tv system" to an actual digital broadcast of the same channels direct from the main satellites and providers" but will not to keep the thread on track! )



filmon is a service designated for streaming of tv using p2p technology.

uktvabroad.com and other VPNs are purely portals to allow access to various online players in the UK, and many other geo-IP restricted things.



"All i will say http://www.filmon.com is by far the best quality" - Ive seen much better quality on vpns especially at "peak" times, when filmon does tend to buffer a bit.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 21:04

Dear 'Charles'



re msg 74



>>Are you leading up to something here? please do not play your usual games<<



No 'games', 'Charles' ... I asked as :



"Film on" asks users to :

1/ download an executable file - it is clearly a file sharing network .. I'm fussy what I install on my pc.. and who is uploading files from mine.



and



2/ to register their contact details - but there are some 'interesting' Ts and Cs [*'s are my emphasis]



>>you authorise us to *use*, store or otherwise process any personal information which relates to and identifies you, including but not limited to your name and address and email address, to the extent reasonably necessary to provide the Service available through our website by us, our partners, successors (including the purchaser of the whole or part of our business), associates, sub-contractors or other third parties (together our 'Partner Companies').<<



So, if you don't mind giving your details - to anyone they seem to deem fit .. go for i

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 21:17

So when people subscribe to your service and pay do you not ask for their credit card details & name and address etc?



I would think that was a minimum requirement and i personaly would rather share my personal details with a large respectable company than risk giving financial details to a little company that no one has heard of.



So my question is are you someone that is deemed fit? As your contributions on here would make me very nervous.

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 21:21

And, trying to keep this on topic, I saw a report in The Guardian this week that said the BBC team are developing an international version of iplayer which will allows the viewing of certian "BBC Worldwide" copyright owned programmes outside the UK, some for free others for a small fee.



"...to a little company that no one has heard of."...like yours?

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 21:21

Dear 'Charles'

re msg 78



>>You do need to keep your envy under control though as it will be your downfall as you seem to attack everything that you either do not do as well or wish you had of thought of in the first place<<



Still with the 'envy' theme?! You do get personal, 'Charles'



Tell me / us WHAT *am* I envying ? .. Do I have need of investors or overdrafts or loans - Am I answerable to shareholders or bank managers.. ?



I certainly am NOT a member on here to 'spam' ...



If you see valid questions you constantly avoid, and your 'boasts' of an infrastructure/ staffing level that is clearly a figment of your imagination as 'envy'.. you really DO need that 'holiday' ..

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 21:31

re 81



>>So when people subscribe to your service and pay do you not ask for their credit card details & name and address etc? <<



NO.. I don't.. You REALLY need to do some more research ..





Now I'm not suggesting they would pass on your credit card details... but I DO suggest - for once - you read something - properly - before responding.

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 21:34

mmmmmm, mmmmmm, mmmmmm, mmmmmm as i thought you do have an inferiority complex and it shows more when we are talking about your own personal business as opposed to you attacking other peoples businesses. Keep taking the tablets and lying on the couch of the professional he will help you through your pain. Its not nice is it when the shoe is on the other foot been challenged instead of challenging others, maybe you should reflect on this and then it may make you think before you jump in on future subjects and rubbish other people. This is why as i am sure your professional couch consultant will tell you its difficult for you to have lasting relationships and friendships with normal people.

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 21:48

AJ my thread is continuosly spammed by Mark on purpose,I´m having a nice conversation with other members and he wants to block it.

Is it possible to ask him to leave my thread and let me continue my interesting conversation with the people who are really interested?

Mark does not even reside in CY anymore so he can´t tell how well a VPN performs here.

Thanks.

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 22:08

mmmmmm - NO.. I don't.. You REALLY need to do some more research



So if you do not take the customers details and credit card details how come you are posting negatives about other people not taking monthly payment via credit credit cards when you are now saying that you do not either?



You seem to change your stance as you go along to suit your current mood, how can we believe anything you say when you constantly change your answers?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 22:10

Dear 'UKTVDirect'



re msg 85



As ever you don't respond to specifics, and make this about me !! Did you READ the "filmon" Ts and Cs, yet..?



I don't want to be part of their data farm, but if you *know* that the .exe file is 'safe' and you can register using a throwaway email addy, then if you want free UK TV on a PC - and it is of watchable quality.. who needs a VPN ?!



I HATE file sharing and don't even want the iplayer download manager on my pc as it is peer to peer software..



IF you have a good connection - and a GOOD VPN, you can watch live UK tv anywhere... on a pc .. without the ads, stalling, etc.... which of course 'Carl' wouldn't know about ...



I'm sure you'll agree - there's no substitute for watching UK TV - preferably in HD - for FREE...



re 86

'Carl from Paphos' - it is clear you STILL don't know the meaning of the words

1/ spam

2/ defamation



I have businesses based in CY and even workers / networks / pcs.. a fib, AGAIN.

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 22:15

uktvdirect



you said in message 81 "So when people subscribe to your service and pay do you not ask for their credit card details & name and address etc?

I would think that was a minimum requirement and i personaly would rather share my personal details with a large respectable company than risk giving financial details to a little company that no one has heard of"



So that means that people should not subscribe to your service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



By the way have you never heard of new businesses, obviously not from your stupid posting

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 22:42

Dear UKTVDirect



>>So if you do not take the customers details and credit card details how come you are posting negatives about other people not taking monthly payment via credit credit cards when you are now saying that you do not either? <<





As my biz takes many 'card holder not present' transactions from many different countries *and* relies on repeat subscriptions , we sue third party merchants - same account for nearly eight years - and NEVER a charge back. We don't store the clients credit card details.. you asked me :



>>Do you not ask for their credit card details & name and address etc? << I truthfully answered, no..



So AGAIN, you were a little too quick to hit that 'post reply' button - and VERY predictable..

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 22:45

That should be we *use* third party clearing merchants... I probably have suing someone in my subconscious thoughts ;)



At least I would only need the 'edit post' button to correct my spelling mistakes.. )

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 23:41

re msg 86

you mentioned his service in your first post, and upon reading how the post was worded suggests that you have tried his service and it was poor. so it should be fair that he can defend it.

just like your chum charles tried to do on his thread, where, incidently, he was spamming by putting the webaddress of his "made for 1€ websire" on every post he made.



and how can it be "spam" as he has not even mentioned his service on this thread.

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/10/2009 23:53

just a few questions i hope someone can answer.

what are internet speeds and connections like in NC?

what is the "normal" upload and download speeds?

are they consistant - here in spain on bank holidays weekends etc the speeds slow down a bit (not that i notice as I am 100mts from the exchange with a 10meg d/l!)

are the operators "tight" with monthly quotas or UL and DL?

do some VPNs have UP / DL quotas / fair useage policy?

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
16/10/2009 01:45

I am in Cyprus and the VPN i use for 6.50 pounds a month has no bandwith limitations,so i can watch live UKTV for as long as i want and can download any amount of programs.

I repeat again the speed is very good,the picture is always perfect with no buffering even on prime time.(I have checked even tonight).

This is my direct experience here in CY and what should matter,not the prejudices that come from a spanish or uk resident who still think Cyprus is a third world country and can´t have a fast and stable internet connection.



It´s wrong to continue to say that if people don´t pay 20 pounds a month you can´t have a reliable service.

I have the maximum quality level with spending 6.50 a month.

All the extra would just increase the profit margin of the seller.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/10/2009 11:01

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'



re msg 94



You STILL aren't listening:



1/ What is the definition of spam in the internet context ? .. then once you answer THAT Question, ask yourself how *I* could be 'spamming' )



2/ Your misled members and told a LIE about a service you hadn't tried... are you going to admit you LIED?



The truth is you tried a bit of negative spamming.. and for some bizarre reason the request for tests of my VERY expensive service has gone UP ))



Ironic bit :



How does your living in 'Paphos' relate to most folks in "TRNC"..?



IF you are in Paphos you could be using a Cyta based ADSL backbone or a service from Primetel .. are you aware MOST folk in "TRNC" haven't GOT ADSL? . Mostly their service is FAR inferior to that in the 'rump' RoC



(cont)

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/10/2009 11:21

re 94

'Carl' IF you are going to try to appear like you know what you are talking about - in the context of VPN performance- one wouldn't say ' I am in x and the VPN i use for x pounds a month has no bandwith limitations'



1/ I'm guessing you meant that 'they' don't restrict the amount of data you try to download..may be true..you are limited by the number of users they allow to download - VERY different... your ISP probably does, though !



Also, the level of Quality of Service network management they operate a



2/ Your ISP 'speed' is affected by other users on the system in your locale.. as if you think of your feed as a water pipe, - if other users on your pipe are downloading, YOU will be affected. you'll get less flow.



3/ The site you use to VIEW UK Tv via the net also has an impact on performance. Ironically, when in the UK I often get WORSE performance on iplayer, than I do on the CY network.. traffic shaping restrictions-by site, data type - put on by UK ISPS..

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/10/2009 11:23

Lastly,



If you don't mind downloading peer to peer file sharing software, and allowing your contact details to be used by third parties associates as they see fit, why are you using a VPN, at all ?



HarryRoberts told us how to get UT TV without a VPN.. ;)

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/10/2009 11:23

UK, even :(

kimig1


Joined: 22/06/2008
Posts: 73

Message Posted:
16/10/2009 15:32

message 58



Hello Mark - in fact you ARE teaching grandma - indeed great-grandma - when it comes to most things computer. My first machine was a Vic 20, closely followed by a Sinclair speccie....

However, ( she says modestly ) there are still lots of things I don't quite understand. Perhaps most particularly, Microsoft and some of its software...

Followed your/their instructions to the letter. Twice. Both times, at the end of the process, my machine suddenly stopped completely and displayed a Frightening Error Message in that arcane DOS which I used to do in my sleep.

It is pretty definitely a WMP 11 fault: one of the nice things it does is refuse to uninstall. Good old Revo sorted that, and from here on I will not even TRY to download except directly from iPlayer.

Thanks again for your help -- especially the page which tells you expiry date.....

Cheers

Kimig



PS Would have emailed you, but it seems I don't have enough posts for that exalted knowledge!

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 00:29

"My first machine was a Vic 20, closely followed by a Sinclair speccie...."

me also,

and a BBC Model B Micro!!!!!

and an Acorn Electron!!!!!!!!!!



Thanks for jigging the memory (chips), I am sure I still have a 128K Spectrum+ (with floppy disk) around somewhere!

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 01:38

Mark you were quick to criticise uktvdirect but you seem to have a tactic regarding ignoring the questions you don´t like.

You never give a plausible reason to explain the ridiculous profit margin of your VPN,20 pounds a month plus a 10 pounds setup fee!

Quality is not a justification,because I´m getting perfect quality pictures on UKTV channels with a 6.50 pounds monthly VPN and no setup fees.If the purpose of getting a VPN is to watch UKTV there is nothing more that your VPN could offer than http://www.vpnuk.info which I´m currently using.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 12:29

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'



re msg 101



I have already proved you started off this thread to tell a fib and you are at it AGAIN.. ?!



>>you never give a plausible reason to explain the ridiculous profit margin of your VPN,20 pounds a month plus a 10 pounds setup fee! <<



Don't read msg 77 or any of the posts where we discuss contention ratios or QoS..



We are still waiting for a little 'honesty' / apology from you..

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 16:59

Still not answering about your profit margin.

Who cares about contention and QoS theories?

If i want to watch UKTV channels with a perfect quality even on prime time i can do it for 6.50 pounds a month with http://www.vpnuk.info

This means surely their servers have the right contention ratio and QoS required to offer a perfect service.

For two months I´d pay 13 pounds with them,instead your price would be 50 pounds!

That´s four times higher to do the same thing!

compass


Joined: 27/02/2009
Posts: 208

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 18:15

Cyprus United



Will you say who your ISP is please and your connection speed. I have a 1 meg with Nethouse and use - my private network - VPN but it only works without buffering about 50% of the time.



Jazzahtai



Can I ask you the same question pls as I think your setup is identical to mine but you say yours is perfect.



This started off as such a good informative thread but soon veered off into it's usual end...........



Thanks



C'pass

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 19:00

re 103:

cyunited:

what are your profit margins for your services, whatever they are? (do you charge extra for BS? )



this is not something you normally ask any company?



as with most things if you dont want to pay it go with another company, as you have done so.



so why go on and on about it?



i dont go to "sainsburys" and ask what profit they make on every item?



and as you mentioned spamming how many more times are you going to post a link to vpninfo site?

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 19:03

Hi Compass



I´m using a 4 Meg Adsl with Netway ISP on Dsl Access line.

As a VPN I have http://www.vpnuk.info which gives me perfect picture on UKTV channels for just 6.50 GB pounds a month.



I´m happy to give all the information i can,it´s just Mark (residing in the UK now by the way) who continuously comes up here to interfere and promote his over-the-roof priced VPN.

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 19:11

re106

how many times has mark promoted his company or used his services name: none

who mentioned his service first: you

who said is service has bad quality without trying it: you

so what if he is priced higher - if you dont like dont pay it - its that simple, but you started this thread by bashing his service without trying it - he is not "interfering" with your post but merely posting a response to a quote you made about his service.

so how do you know the quality is bad - it may have exceptional quality and therefore worth the higher price...you dont know as it looks like you have not even tried it!

So what if he does not reside in the country - neither does your friend "charles" but you are ok with him pushing his "service" - and he charges 300 plus euros a year for channels you can receive for free direct from the offical satellite! so whats his profit margin?

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 19:11

James1970

I think my information by residing in Cyprus can be a bit more useful than yours being a spanish resident who has seen Cyprus on postcards or short holidays.

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 19:15

sorry, forgot that VPNs are only for Cyprus.

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 19:19

"who has seen Cyprus on postcards or short holidays. "

actually it was a competition on the back of a cereal package...

or was it the real eastate agent in NC....cant remember which...

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 20:47

Dear 'Carl from Paphos' re 103



I answered your Q in 77 AND 102 ... are you adding STUPIDITY to being a FIBBER ?! Please do your maths..



You are paying 6.50 for a shared .. dynamic IP service.. you are EXACTLY like the demo of msg 77 ... if you are SO concerned about profit margin, I would have a word with the folk you are paying ...



As you seem a little 'slow' I'll make it simpler...



You are on a 'bus' stopping and starting to pick up passengers... all paying 6.50 GBP, Lord know how many are being crammed in ..and my clients have their own 'limo' - sharing with no-one.. for 20GBP .. WHO is going to get the best experience? I think you can see who is going to be a more profitable concern..



I'm in the biz of quality not quantity... I'm VERY expensive...for a reason ;)



PS WHY are you still paying if "film on" is 'the best' for receiving UK TV in Cyprus...? surely you don't doubt 'Charles'?



MOST Folk in 'TRNC' don't have such ADSL options.. get it ?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
17/10/2009 21:16

re msg 106



So you are paying nearly 96 Euros a month for you ADSL on a primetel backbone....



Our network in Lima(s)sol is with Primetel - 8 Megs.. !!



So..



IS it ok if I contribute on the thread - as I pay for it ? )) ...



Don't you think it is a RIP off ??



I pay £10 / month for double your speed, with SKY ( nearly 8 times less monthly cost )



and



three times less for a biz ASDL 8 meg service with BT ?



As I said, your experience has b' all bearing on what 'northies' can get...

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 01:09

Mark your insultive behaviour should be reported to moderators,the fact this function is not available on this forum(or it´s me that can´t find it) does not allow you to exceed.



You have a cheaper broadband in the UK with SKY?

Who cares? We all know Cyprus Adsl lines are dearer and this does not matter on what is discussed here.



And also understand that I and the other people living here need a VPN for just one purpose:watching UKTV channels.

If i can reach this goal by spending 6.50 pounds a month and no setup fee that´s me sorted.

I have a perfect picture even on prime time,there is nothing more i can ask to a VPN.

There is no need to put 50 pounds in your pocket just to say I´m on a dedicated IP address.And even that option from http://www.vpnuk.info would work out a lot cheaper than yours at 13.50 pounds a month with no setup fee.

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 01:16

Did you leave the Island to get cheaper prices and more commodities?

I can tell you I also could afford to move,the price i´m paying for my adsl connection shows that,but I´m committed to staying in Cyprus.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 09:50

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'

re msg 113



>>Mark your insultive behaviour should be reported to moderators,the fact this function is not available on this forum(or it´s me that can´t find it) does not allow you to exceed. <<



There is nought insulting about speaking the truth.



1/ You STILL refuse to apologise for kicking this thread off with a FIB



2/ You suggest *I* don't respond to your questions - when I repeatedly point to examples.. that is STUPID..



I could have run to a Mod as soon as you started this thread - as your intent - to 'knock' my VERY expensive product - without having TRIED it - was clear ;).. I'd much rather you enjoy oxygen to continue your 'folly' ..



By now, any member still listening to what you say, will be TOTALLY confused..



Should they pay for a cheap VPN, or use 'film on' ? ))

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 10:00

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'

re msg 114



>>Did you leave the Island to get cheaper prices and more commodities? <<



If you had joined the board other than to post nonsense about TV in a part of CY - you clearly aren't aux fait with - you'd know the answer!



The price WE pay for ADSL is a TOTAL rip off - all ISPs in "rump" RoC tied to Cyta / Primetel backbone rates...THAT was my point.



Why don't you start off a thread about that on here..?! you'll find a lot of folk interested in the plight of someone from Paphos ;)

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 11:17

So, if I get a VPN thingy can I get UKTVDIRECT in TRNC?

And if so, where can I see it working?

Just moving along on this.

Chegwin

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 11:29

no

VPNs allow access to the uk tv "iplayer" / webstreaming services via the internet

uktvdirect is a thrid party "satellite system", that "borrows" / "steals" signals from the official UK TV satellites and rebroadcasts them using another satellite.

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 11:37

Thanks James1970

I thought this whole TV debate subject was initially to do with someone flogging a different type of TV receiving system and then moving on to having to have a VPN thing to watch it which apparently nobody in TRNC has so the doubt has to be there. Does it work or not?

Seems I have missed the plot on this so like I said in an earlier post somewhere I will stick with what I have.

At least I know it works.



Chegwin

kimig1


Joined: 22/06/2008
Posts: 73

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 17:31

Chegwin - I live in TRNC and use a VPN service. This is necessary because you can only watch/download UK tv progs ( to your computer) if you are perceived to be living in UK.



It works - but after a fashion - because bandwidth from all internet providers in TRNC is erratic, and even at is best is very slow compared to UK standards. Sorry if you live here and already know about this!



I am able to download BBC programs to watch when I want, but I cannot watch streaming TV, as it buffers every few seconds. A VPN will enable you to connect to English progs, but can't do anything about a slow connection.



I use a VPN called ACE Open VPN, which costs 5$ per month. If you want a link I will send you one.

Cheers

Kimig

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 18:39

you could alwys use a "torrent" service like uknova, mininova or the box.biz to download uk tv programmes without VPN, and with no restrictions on "days available", rather than streaming.

scruff


Joined: 15/07/2008
Posts: 1070

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 19:10

re. msg 121

james1970 which is exactly what I do. Use the box.biz With my very poor TRNC 512/128 download/upload.

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
18/10/2009 23:09

Hi Chegwin.

If your connection is slow you can use a VPN to download UKTV programs to watch later.

Or you can use torrents for free but in that case there can be risks of getting viruses on your computer.



About uktvdirect,the satellite service that Mark had forecast to last a couple of days and instead it´s still on,I have noticed that Charles has kept his word and removed all Direct TV brands from his website.

Now the only brand appearing on uktvdirect website is Irdeto (in the picture of the Irdeto CAM),which i assume it´s being authorized because Irdeto is the encryption provider for that service.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
19/10/2009 00:07

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'



re msg 123







You stated off this thread on VPNs with a GREAT 'whopper' - announcing mine was the 'worst' - but you hadn't tested it - and we have established that your VPN isn't even the cheapest ( well done Kimig1 )



What has a well 'dodgy' sat system you can't even catch in Paphos 24/7 got to do with VPNs ?;)

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
19/10/2009 00:59

Yes Mark,your VPN is certainly the worst in terms of price.

I´ve just noticed that you also require a two months minimum contract,this is unique in the VPN market.



About the sat system,it´s the example that your word is not the Gospel and you should consider that.

You made a forecast in July that is now proving wrong.

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
19/10/2009 10:35

"mmmmmm" - you are like a child when challenged, you have been proven wrong on many points and still insist on telling people you are right.



You continue to attack our satellite tv system which should have been turned off and gone for good well before now according to you.



It is still broadcasting and will be expanding its service in a few days to give even more quality uktv content to its 1,000's of customers new and old, so much for your closing down soon prediction.



http://www.uktvdirect.com

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 10:42

Dearest 'Carl from Paphos' re 125



>>your VPN is certainly the worst in terms of price. <<



STILL demonstrating that you are (wilfully):



1/ STUPID



2/ *trying* to 'knock' a product that has been on the market for 6 years BEFORE the days of iplayer, etc !



It's not even expensive. Mr 'expert' .. I have clients paying more than 20 times that - and their contracts are for a YEAR at a time ;)



>>About the sat system,it´s the example that your word is not the Gospel<<



) I've also warned folks that another pirate TV system available in 'TRNC' will not remain available - and to pay monthly - by credit card



I'm very happy to stand by what I say... the difference being I *KNOW* what I'm taking about ;)



I have a suggestion for you...next time I'm over in CY, Alex, myself and our corporate legal advisor will come to visit you. We can clearly demonstrate your technical 'howlers' and legal transgressions and advise how to 'correct' them, gratis ;))

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
19/10/2009 11:01

"mmmmmm" - another demonstration of your child like behaviour and with the addition of schoolboy style hidden threats.



I am sure that you are convinced that "You*KNOW* what I'm taking about ;)" but the problem is self praise is hollow and bears no relation to the real world and other peoples opinions.



people who have to keep telling themselves how good they are have a inferiority complex and need to continualy reassure themselves, very sad, i feel sorry for you.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
19/10/2009 16:21

Dear 'Charles' re msg 128



>> but the problem is self praise is hollow and bears no relation to the real world and other peoples opinions. <<



Which part of any posts regarding my expertise to post on

1/ Irdeto being hacked,

2/ Intelsat 905 capabilities in Cyprus, ( and you TOTAL inability to get dish size requirement right

3/the BBC / ITV not giving 'you' permission to charge for a service that is free,

4/ suggesting members should insist in paying monthly by credit card, V

5/ VPN network operating functionality - cheapest probably means more users piled in



DO you have a problem with ?



>>people who have to keep telling themselves how good they are have a inferiority complex and need to continualy reassure themselves, very sad, i feel sorry for you.<<



I'd worry about making sure that your 'glove puppets' are more 'clued up' and don't keep making untrue statements based on zero knowledge of a product ;)



Carl (and you) hide their true id and tell fibs.. how '

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 16:32

(cont) convenient..



Carl has told a LIE on a public forum and had plenty of chance to withdraw it .. You need to understand that I'm not threatening anything.. I'm *promising* ..



'Carl' wanted Alex to visit him, and h will.. with me, and someone that can advise 'Carl' concerning the implications of defamation without having some sort of proof to back it up.



' Carl' was asked to apologise on several occasions and I keep repeating that my VPN IS expensive.. he has clearly stated it is the *worst*.



I have clearly stated that 'your' operation is pirating UK TV services and charging for something that is not 'yours' to resell. This is FACT and I invited you to 'sue' me if it was indeed untrue...



'Your' biz model relies on 'layers' to avoid legal action - and this is WHY you rely on 'agents'..



I SERIOUSLY doubt you have 2000+ agents installers and certainly haven't seen a flood of clients on forums (esp. not THIS one) stating how 'great' your service is..

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
19/10/2009 16:35

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.