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rdsteve


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Have just aquired the sole import right for Cyprus of the above product. Sea-Klear is a natural product. See info below

Information...Uses and Benefits of SeaKlear. Natural Clarifier



Clarifies Cloudy Water

SeaKlear Natural Clarifier got its name because it was originally used by the U.S. Navy to clear seawater for underwater photography. Environmentally safe, nontoxic and biodegradable, SeaKlear Natural Clarifier contains a natural ingredient, chitosan, which attracts the organic debris that causes cloudiness in pool, spa and hot tub water. A floc or mass of organic material is formed and carried to the filter, where it is more easily removed. Easy-to-use, SeaKlear Natural Clarifier is an excellent clarifier. Each week, treat your water with SeaKlear Natural Clarifier specially formulated for pools or spas/hot tubs to improve water quality and clarity.



Removes Excess Oil

Unlike synthetic, petroleum-based clarifiers, SeaKlear Natural Clarifier actually removes oils from the wat



TopTen


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Will this get rid of green like film on the sides of pool tried scrubbing, extra chlorine, longer turn over on pool but still keeps returning



Mindy



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Whats the cost of this product to buy from you please



zerochlor


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28/10/2009 16:55

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so is it a alternative to chlorine.

or is seaklear just a fancy name for floculant?

what is the cost

and what size containers does it come in

is it liquid or powder

most flocs are arouind the £18 to £25 RRP



what will your price be?



Also before it is sold here in the north

youll have to have it certified by the ministry of health

not such a hard process,but it will need to go to a labority here in the north.



zerochlor


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28/10/2009 17:00

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buy online



http://www.poolgeek.com/SeaKlear-Spa-Chemicals-C787.aspx



zerochlor


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28/10/2009 17:15

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steve.which 1 is your product from the range.also is it a alternative to chlorine.is it a sanitiser?

SEAKLEAR Algae Klear SEAKLEAR Natural Stain Remover

SEAKLEAR Algae Prevention & Remover SEAKLEAR Phosphate Remover

SEAKLEAR Chlorine-Free Shock Oxidizer SEAKLEAR Phosphate Remover

(Private Label Formula)

SEAKLEAR SPA Chlorine-Free Shock Oxidizer SEAKLEAR PRS - Stage One

SEAKLEAR Enzyme Klear SEAKLEAR Problem Klear

SEAKLEAR Filter Cleaner & Degreaser SEAKLEAR PRS - Stage Two

SEAKLEAR Leak Sealer SEAKLEAR Stain Klear

SEAKLEAR Metal Klear SEAKLEAR Stain Prevention & Remover

SEAKLEAR Metal Stain Control SEAKLEAR Super Metal Control

SEAKLEAR Natural Clarifier Tablets SEAKLEAR Super Scale Control

SEAKLEAR Natural Clarifier SEAKLEAR Thick Tile and Vinyl Cleaner

SEAKLEAR Yellow Klear



Spa MSDS





SEAKLEAR SPA Alkalinity Up SEAKLEAR SPA pH Increaser

SEAKLEAR SPA Brominating Tablets SEAKLEAR SPA pH Reducer



rdsteve


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28/10/2009 17:16

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Hi David

Sea-Klear EU have sent it to the ministry and are awaiting paperwork.

They see Cyprus as a big potential market



Cost is £14.95 for 1 ltr bottles and £29.95 for 2.5 ltr bottles

This product is made from crab shells so it is all natural

Used it in a green pool today and cleared it within 2 hrs



Steve



zerochlor


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SEAKLEAR SPA Calcium Increaser SEAKLEAR SPA pH Steady

SEAKLEAR SPA Chlorine-Free Shock Oxidizer SEAKLEAR SPA Phosphate Remover

SEAKLEAR SPA Enzyme Klear SEAKLEAR SPA PRS Stage One

SEAKLEAR SPA Filter Cleaner and Degreaser SEAKLEAR SPA PRS Stage Two

SEAKLEAR Spa Filter Cleaner Spray

SEAKLEAR SPA Self-Floccing Defoamer

SEAKLEAR SPA Leak Sealer SEAKLEAR SPA Sodium Bromide

SEAKLEAR SPA Metal Control SEAKLEAR SPA Sanatizing Granules

SEALKEAR SPA Natural Clarifier Tablets SEAKLEAR SPA Stain and Scale Control

SEAKLEAR SPA Natural Clarifier



Aquaria MSDS



SEAKLEAR AQUARIA Natural Clarifier

SEAKLEAR AQUARIA PRS Stage One

SEAKLEAR AQUARIA Phosphate Remover 3000 SEAKLEAR AQUARIA PRS Stage Two

SEAKLEAR AQUARIA Phosphate Remover



zerochlor


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is it a alternative to chlorine?



is it a sanitiser



or do you still have to use chlorine with it or other non chlorine sanitaisers?



rdsteve


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28/10/2009 17:25

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The product is Sea-Klear 4 in 1 natural clarifier

http://www.sea-klear.eu

The above website is the spanish agent for this product



If you use zerochlor you should not need to use this product as zerochlor is another natural product this product is aimed at chlorine pool



Steve



zerochlor


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28/10/2009 17:30

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sounds a good product . also if it is a all in one product for the water and no need to use chloine in conjunction with it.

if it is not made in south of cyprus youll still need a import licence to import it into the north,it cant be just brought across the green line in large quantities unless its smuggled.

also the ministry of health here in the north would want samples,and a full documented lab report,something like a SGS report on the product and also there own goverment lab would want to do there checks on the product.

Again,not such a hard job to do,but a little time consuming



zerochlor


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cheers steve. i was hoping it was another super product on the market to do away with chlorine,im all for new products that go against chlorine.

next time ur passing the shop,if you got any samples,drop buy or any for sale,il take 1 off you to try.



rdsteve


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28/10/2009 17:54

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Hi David

Already got you in mind for a sample. Sea-klear eu are dealing with the ministry saves me getting involved.

Something like this could not be smuggled i have my reputation to think of.

Had one of those nasty chlorine pools today that has had a green tinge to it for months so the owner told me so put a single does of sea-klear in it and left the pump running after a couple of hours it cleared it. Going back tomorrow to check what it is like after 24hrs.



Steve



zerochlor


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cheers steve



i wasnt saying to smuggle it.i was just saying if its comming to the north side in quantity it would need a import licence. and if no import licence the only other way is to take the chance.

but i wouldnt advise that.

Hope to see you in the next week.



kibsolar


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You need an import licence for products made in the RoC.

if the product is not made in the RoC then you are not allowed to import them via south cyprus.

For both procedures you need a registered TRNC company to import them.

This will be the much bigger hassle and most probably the end for your 14,95 STG per bottle.

Or do you invite us all to come to Paralimni and buy the bottles there? (sorry, but it seems to be this is the case)

Also I just want to comment that chitosan seem to be a „natural product“, but during production a lot of waste products arise which are not biodegrable.

And most of the other „Sea Klear" products are stuffed with chemicals.

The clarifier chitosan does not replace other pool treatment.

anyway, steve, you have been interested in our products, but you didnt answer my reply.

and why do you use two email adresses? steve@awningandfountains.com and jcfairbank@btinternet.com ?



kibsolar


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Be careful zerochlor:

chitosan adsorbs copper from the water. (and Pb, Cd, Zi and Ni)

Not good for your product. (chitosan does not work for Mg, Ca, Na and potassium)



barnaclebill


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If I remember right SEA-KLEAR has been in the TRNC for over a year .Poolsan when they were around used to use it could it be the same one ? 1 Litre/2.5 litre bottles ,dark blue ,crushed crab shells.

Very good at clearing cloudy pools.



rdsteve


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Kibsolar

I am still interested in your products and sorry i thought i had replied to you but don't seem as though i have from your posting. Why do i have 2 email addresses i don't i have 4 i also have info@awningsandfountains.com and david@awningsandfountains.com. I dont want to miss any business and they all come into one account. At present i have a lot of products from different companies that i am looking at. Cyprus is a lucritive market and i want to offer the best products especally as i want to open a shop in the North early next year i have to test the market. I already have a Cypriot business partner lined up to move the project forward.



Steve



kibsolar


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msg 17.

chitosan is a product far away from "crushed crab shells".

shells are used, yes.

after several chemical processes chitosan will emerge. the waste of this procession is not biodegrable.

be aware that a "non cloudy pool" is not necessary a clean pool.

msg 18

in which products you are interested?



rdsteve


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If you use Zerochlor there wil no need to use Sea-Klear as everyone who uses zerochlor knows you dont get green or cloudy pools if your levels are correct so it is not aimed at that product what it is aimed at is chlorine pools. I think you will find that chitosan is a natural polymer from crabshells. This product is non toxic and

bio-degradeable and enviromentaly friendly so what Kibsolar says about this product is not true unless he would like to take the manufacturer to court for false information they put on the product. I have seen the postings on here about green and cloudy pools so i only put this on here to say that there is a product out there that works (i have given this product to 10 people to try free of charge and i have seen the results).

As Kibsolar has dissed myself and this product i guess you will still be getting green and cloudy pools in the North and still posting on this site what can be done about it.



Steve



kibsolar


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sorry?

before you start start imputations which are close to accusations because you feel "dissed" you might read eg msg 15 carefully, i wrote that

THE WASTE OF THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS FROM CRAB SHELLS TO CHITOSAN IS NOT BIODEGRABLE. and that most of the products of SeaKlear are not biodegrable.

is that wrong?

in msg 19 i mentioned that a "clear(non cloudy) pool" is not a "clean pool".

is that wrong?



zerochlor


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Message 17 barnaclebill



your 100% correct. poolsan did use the product seaklear in conjuction with there poolsan.



i suppose that shows how good poolsan was!!



anyway i am now in possesion of half a litre of seaklear in my office.



i was hoping seaklear was a new product here in cyprus and some competition to chlorine :(







Happy chlorine free swimming folks



zerochlor


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your website does not exist



http://www.sea-klear.eu



zerochlor


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steve.



can you tell me how much seaklear youll use in a 10x5 pool,and what effect will that amount that ill use have on my 10x5 pool?



also can you take a video of a green pool changeing colour as you say it did useing the seaklear.i would very much like to see that,as im not convinced seaklear will bring a green pool back to life.



my understanding of the product is that the seaklear your talking about is not a algeaside so how can it turn a green pool blue?



secondly if you use to much seaklear.have you any idea what will happen to the water?



kibsolar


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zero,

please read msg 16. as i understood poolsans and zerochlors ingrediences contain copper. if you use chitosan, the copper will flock out and will be going into the filter. if poolsan did use seaklaer then its no wonder that their shop is closed!



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When you have all stopped squabbling, I would like the answer to a serious question,....













Will any of these chemicals discolour my Lime Green 'Borat' Mankini?





Rob



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website is http://www.seaklear.eu/



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Mess 24 - Jomtien here you come !



kibsolar


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msg 26, iam not squabbling. Honestly. I just brushed up my knowledge about chitosan a little:

chitosan itself is biodegrable and harmless, but its not ecofriendly in chemical production and therefore its not "natural", although its called a "natural polymer". Chitosan is already quite expensive and the alternative, the enzymic production, even more. This is why chitosan is mainly used in medicine and „problem cases“. If you maintain your pool properly and if your filter is proper sized, a pool does not turn green and the use of Chitosan should not be necessary. But if „it happend“, Chitosan can reduce or avoid a "shock cleaning", which is good. In daily use you cannot replace any other chemical with chitosan.

And i mentioned that SeaKlear offeres the whole range of pool chemicals, but advertise chitosan (crab shells) as the „front runner“ to be natural. And finally to your question: chlorine discolours everything incl your Martini ;-)



ROBnJO


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re my msg 26



I was, slightly 'tongue in cheek', trying to point out that this topic has been viewed over 400 times.



Many probably from prospective customers such as me.



If it appears different suppliers are squabbling and criticising others products,......





which supplier would I trust most to give me unbiased advice and prefer to deal with,.....????



Remember, this is your 'Shop Window'!





Rob



MarkVPiazza


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We haven't had such a good pool releated sqwabble since the Great Water Maid Wars of 2005 ;)



kibsolar


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no wonder, msg 30,

when somebody from the RoC offers his products on this „shop-window“, of course he has to face "some lectures about legal imports". This reminds me of this other RoC based guy Dennis who offered hot- air-vent collectors incl installation! After receiving some "resistance", he announced that a company will be founded in the TRNC soon (also with NC partners....) ...and? His last post: march 2009.

Despite that, everybody should be free to give proper info about a product.

As vaughan said about my chemical free Necon systems: very good, but when you get a quote, you better sit . or look at zeros chlorine free bottles, he spent days and weeks to explain his product.

and to give the logical answer to your question: dont care and buy the product which suits you most. you know what you will get, thanks to this forum.



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