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malsancak
Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 14/11/2009 13:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 20 in Discussion |
| "Whilst registering my Contract of Sale in February 2008, I, like so many others, discovered that the builder and landowner of my development had taken out mortgages on the site. One in the sum of £,1600.00 sterling and one in the sum of 100,000TL." Read more on http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com |
dozza67
Joined: 11/07/2008 Posts: 607
Message Posted: 14/11/2009 13:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 20 in Discussion |
| Absolutely well done. I do hope it all turns out right for you and we admire your courage and stamina in going through all this. BRAVO. |
Earlybird
Joined: 28/04/2009 Posts: 816
Message Posted: 14/11/2009 14:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 20 in Discussion |
| Well done Pauline, excellent. I hope many people will sign the petition. Too many home buyers here are just sitting back and letting their money be drained away and doing nothing. Good luck as you proceed. Good for you!!!!! |
smithy
Joined: 17/07/2008 Posts: 5301
Message Posted: 14/11/2009 14:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 20 in Discussion |
| What can I say, Congratulations Pauline it paid off in the end, so happy for you |
maddy
Joined: 12/01/2009 Posts: 24
Message Posted: 14/11/2009 15:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 20 in Discussion |
| Hi Pauline so pleased for you. Who was the builder? Maddy |
IvorBankloan
Joined: 14/08/2009 Posts: 180
Message Posted: 14/11/2009 16:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 20 in Discussion |
| Spiffingly well done. You have my amiration. |
malsancak
Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 14/11/2009 17:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 20 in Discussion |
| I have the names of everyone concerned but I've emailed Pauline to see what names she is willing to release at this point. |
Hector
Joined: 26/08/2008 Posts: 2352
Message Posted: 14/11/2009 19:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 20 in Discussion |
| Pauline is doing what should have been done long ago and she is to be truly congratulated and admired. If she wins, and I really pray she does, it will be an enormously important case on a par with the Orams. If we knew who was taking action, for what and against who, it would be extremely useful to victims and their lawyers. A successful outcome of her case will send a huge message that dishonesty does not pay and give immense hope to those who have been similarly mistreated by builders, bank etc. Well done Pauline! |
rocking
Joined: 05/11/2008 Posts: 421
Message Posted: 15/11/2009 05:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 20 in Discussion |
| Absolutely fantastic - well done great news. Let us hope people who have problems with builders, banks and (not in your case solicitors) try and do what you have done. A read David and Goliath story. |
elko2
Joined: 24/07/2007 Posts: 4400
Message Posted: 15/11/2009 07:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 20 in Discussion |
| Pauline, You wrote: "I started proceedings in September of 2008 and after securing Injunctions on sufficient property and land to cover my claim ...." 1. Do the developer and the owner of the land have sufficient property to meet your claim which is not actually mortgaged? 2. The injunction expires when a judgement in the case has been delivered i.e. it is a temporary measure until the case is decided upon. Now that you got a judgement in your favour I am sure your advocate has pt a memorandum on the same property i.e. a copy of the judgement is filed with Land Registry and you asked them to stop the transfer or a new mortgage on the same land. The next step will be an order from the court for forceful sale but I understand you have to wait for six months before you can start the process on tht front. ismet http://www.elkocyprus.com PS: You can e.mail me your reply and I will put it up here since you have not managed to become a member of C44 yet! |
malsancak
Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 15/11/2009 09:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 20 in Discussion |
| Pauline Read emailed me: "I will contact the advocate tomorrow and ask permission to give you their name. With regard to the builder and bank, at the appropriate time I fully intend to give them the publicity they richly deserve." |
Tenakoutou
Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 15/11/2009 09:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 20 in Discussion |
| Pauline Read - you're a star! I trust you will also be awarded your legal costs in this case, which I'm sure are liable to be substantial? I also hope that HBPG may be able to take advantage of your information, in order that so many others can hopefully be helped out of their grave, 'no-win' situations. I do, however, have one reservation, which is: why should you, having (handsomely, I guess!) paid your advocate, subsequently divulge your 'success formula' to anyone, for, to coin a phrase: 'less than the price of a postage stamp'? |
elko2
Joined: 24/07/2007 Posts: 4400
Message Posted: 15/11/2009 10:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 20 in Discussion |
| Tenakotou (msg. 12) wrote: "I trust you will also be awarded your legal costs in this case, which I'm sure are liable to be substantial?" Pauline in the original article wrote this: "Interestingly, the Judge also awarded my Advocate some costs." There lies the answer but I suspect Pauline did not have a full explanation of what all this meant! Guess what? ismet |
Tenakoutou
Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 15/11/2009 10:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 20 in Discussion |
| Let's hope all will be revealed, Ismet - but, like I said, why should she divulge all for nil recompense from those who plan to use her case details as a precedent? |
malsancak
Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 15/11/2009 11:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 20 in Discussion |
| As Pauline says in her article, "Meanwhile back at Girne District Court on Friday 6th November 2009 the judge ruled in my favour and I was awarded £120,000 (£23,800 more than I had paid) an amount that just about covers all I have spent on home improvement, fees etc." See http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com for the rest of the story. As for further recompense - perhaps she is writing a book? |
malsancak
Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 15/11/2009 12:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 20 in Discussion |
| Pauline Read emailed me with this: "I have been reading some of the postings with interest. Incidentally I am the one who tried to join and could not because I have a free e mail address (some new rule I understand). With regard to the costs, I do know exactly how much was awarded but I think it is for the Advocate to divulge, not me. I totally understand everything that went on, I am writing a book so it is not in my interest to release everything until the appropriate time, but please be assurred; , many things I am , a fool is not one of them. The Injunctions were temporary but then were made permanent, but Ismet, please be reassurred that my back is securely covered. I have always been a belt and braces girl!!!" |
elko2
Joined: 24/07/2007 Posts: 4400
Message Posted: 15/11/2009 13:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 20 in Discussion |
| Pauline (msg.16) Just one small correction: The normal practice is to apply for an injunction ex-parte i.e you ask for an injunction temporarily until the other side has a chance to defend. So you got the injunction temporarily to start with. After a hearing it became permanent until the court decides on the main case. Hence once the judge ruled on the case the injunction is not there any more. I am sure your advocate has already got a copy of the judgement and used it to put a memorandum on the same properties. It can be fatal if he overlooks that. Just a friendly warning, that's all. ismet |
Ozbey
Joined: 04/03/2009 Posts: 304
Message Posted: 16/11/2009 11:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 20 in Discussion |
| This case is so important that it needs to be kept up at the top. All those with similar problems need to read it, and wherever possible take the same action. |
MarkVPiazza
Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 530
Message Posted: 16/11/2009 11:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 20 in Discussion |
| Quote from the NCFP article "In November 2008 the original debt of £1,600 and 100,000TL was said to be 650,000TL – today it is said to be 1 Trillion TL! Obscene rates of interest must be being applied." This is how local banks balance sheets make them look solvent - small debts with massive interest applied, that haven't got a hope in hell of ever being repayed Be very carefull out there Mark |
Tenakoutou
Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 16/11/2009 13:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 20 in Discussion |
| I doubt whether the numerous banks who allowed these *loans on fully paid up property will be prepared to 'write *them off with a smile' - 'the chickens must come home to roost', and soon! These banks have used the buyers of the affected properties as guarantors for these loans without even asking the buyers' permission - if that isn't blatant fraud, no matter what the 'law' states, I'm b^ggered if I know what is! |
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