Its official the water is a coming

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 18:15

http://haber.turk.net/ENG/2353452/-Turkey-Getting-Ready-To-Build-Water-Pipeline-To-Northern-Cyprus-Occassion-Of-Its-26th-Anniversary



Great news for once,

Paul.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 18:29

Newlad I think you should be made 'the second most helpful member'.

Keep it comming, all interesting stuff from you lately.

tamand


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 240

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 18:48

Yeah theyre also talking of bringing the gas pipeline to TRNC as well with the intention of taking it further maybe to Syria, Egypt n north African areas as well

Good news all round

colly


Joined: 31/07/2008
Posts: 297

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 18:57

I will believe it when it happens. Could be used in the talks as the south could really use the water as well.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:08

Is this pipeline soley for the north or is it a for the whole island ?

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:12

just the North i think Tats,

Paul.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:13

Hope it has a better ending than the Girne bypass. Perhaps they will remember to actually have a plan to connect it when it gets to the TRNC.

sporty


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 685

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:14

probably a tap!!

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:15

If thats so Paul then surely that tells us something about the talks....yes/no

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:16

could be a nice bargaining tool ??

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:19

Can't be any worse than the GC's attempts to tanker water from Greece to the ROC. They put all of the infrastructure in only to find that the flexible pipeline that was installed to take the water from the tankers was not long enough. Oh how we all laughed.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:21

I seem to remember Turkey offering water to Greece during the summer of 2008 and Greece said no thanks and continued to carry on shipping the water,

Paul.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:23

Tats,

The north to the south will you let us have direct flights if we let you have some of our water,

Paul.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:30

Paul

The South to the North... no you can't have direct flights but we will take you to the court of human rights so you have to supply us with some of your water.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:31

Hope the water is cheaper than electricity.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:33

Hector such a negative slant on what is great news,

Paul.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:37

Doesn't really matter what it costs you can't live without it

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:38

The work will start early 2010.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 20:23

Is this a leak? .....

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 20:39

No dizzy ......just on tap

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 20:42

Water of a duck's back Paul, good news and top journalism mate........

Sid447


Joined: 15/05/2009
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 21:16

Good news,



Though I won't hold my breath. It'll take twice as long as forecast plus a good 30 days on top of that.



Anyone know of a good company that can drill and set-up a water well?

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 21:29

infrastructure is in place , turkish side , waiting for eus desition. long live kktc

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 22:38

i believe its going to be pumped into an expanded gectikoy reservior , well at least the carp will be happy no more swimming in a pudle!

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 22:43

i'm sure I read somewhere they were going to do an electricity pipeline from turkey aswell or did I imagine it ;-)

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 07:26

This year, next year, sometime, never - that's the name of the game in TRNC!



And Hector is quite right to be cynical about the probable cost - there'll probably be 100% + Duty + 15% + KDV added; then add the prevailing resale 'greed factor'....



But it all bodes well - well, eventually!

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 12:28

Re No. 15: The south provides much electricity for the north via a power line that runs fom near Frenaros over to near Famagusta. They charge the north LESS than they charge their own customers. I took this up with EAC a few years ago who at first denied it, and then admitted it on the grounds it was the "commercial" rate. i.e. the no-orofir rate. Suits me! But I guess their customers in GC-land won't be too happy about that!

Geoff

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 12:29

Typo in my previous: orofit should read profit. Why can't we edit our messages after posting?

MarkVPiazza


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 530

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 10:32

IMO, the 1st thing the TRNC needs in order to have a chance in life, is good infrastructure services.



The water pipeline would revolutionise farming and tourism, and would be a money maker (no more tankers to top up your pool)



A gas pipeline would also be fantastic - no need for oil fired power stations any longer, which should reduce the cost of electricity (if they don't also put an electricity cable over.



Mark

rigsby


Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 912

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 11:38

Message 11.No we did not all laugh,Water is too precious to waste.

Stewart


Joined: 19/07/2008
Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 11:47

Hi..think you will find that the water is intended for the whole island, some of pipeline being paid by EU.



Still...there must be an on / off switch.....will make the south more reliant on Turkey either way

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 16:45

This has been on the cards for a while now, I posted this info way back in August.

Would be great to see it happen.



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/20667.asp

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 17:37

Cheers for the link.Lets hope it all comes to fruition,

Paul.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 17:56

re 11



>>Can't be any worse than the GC's attempts to tanker water from Greece to the ROC. They put all of the infrastructure in only to find that the flexible pipeline that was installed to take the water from the tankers was not long enough. Oh how we all laughed.<<



Oh Dear, AJ.. STILL not too clued up on facts re CY , :( ...



This was true for a week last year...



Now how long and how many times have we heard that water will be piped to Cyprus from Turkey..?



I, too, will believe it when I see it... IF I'm still around...

greylag


Joined: 08/04/2009
Posts: 1110

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 09:16

mmmmmm,

So negative, it will happen,

Grey.

Serkan


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 12:53

I think cyprus will regain its name "yesil ada".

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 15:28

The water pipeline from Turkey has been in planning (in the pipeline ?) since circa 2004. This latest proposal has now expanded this to pipe electricity, water, gas and anything else of they can think at the same time. Any project drift, problems and delays associated with this will probably be on the Cyprus side. Personally I don't expect to see this come to fruition for at least 5 years if ever.

MarkVPiazza


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 530

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 15:53

I think it will happen next year - Turkey wants to settle all its neighbour disputes, Cyprus in particular, and the pipeline will help this one of two ways



1. Providing cheap and plentiful water/electricity/gas will make the TRNC more amenable to annexisation with Turkey



2. Provides and extra incentive for the RoC to accept an agreement, on the basis they do not want the above to happen.



Any way you look at it, the pipeline(s) will drastically change life in Cyprus



Mark

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 16:03

msge 38



"Any way you look at it, the pipeline(s) will drastically change life in Cyprus"



Very true MVP

MarkVPiazza


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 530

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 16:31

The more I think about it, the more likely it is to happen



As a "solution" one way or another is very likely next year, another building boom is the likely result (collective sigh)



As we know, there is no way the existing water/power/roads can cope with this, so when there are firm commitments to finish the Girne bypass, Karpas Road etc. I think we can anticipate a solution is on the cards.



A double edge sword if ever there was one



Mark

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 17:53

MVP,

Great to hear a positive post i also think it will happen next year as it ticks all the correct boxes,

Paul.

MarkVPiazza


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 530

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 10:31

Once the north has plenty of cheap water and power, there is the real chance of tourism florishing (as well as farming and everything else)



I guess one option to encourage this, is something similar the Turkish government did in the 80s , i.e said to it's "businessmen", "build the tourist infrastructure, and we won't ask where the money came from"



A pragmatic move that has reaped many benefits for Turkey



Mark

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 10:41

re 35 Greylag, 37 Geejay



The reason I am negative - I've heard it ALL before..



>>the water pipeline from Turkey has been in planning (in the pipeline ?) since circa 2004. .<<



Not so, it has been mooted many times, as has bringing water with tugs in giant plastic bags ....

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 20:05

Mark,

Its on the way my friend,trust me,

Paul.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 20:10

Wasn't there an earlier problem with running the pipes over the deep Adana Trench between Turkey & Cyprus?



I'm sure I read that a year or so ago.

MarkVPiazza


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 530

Message Posted:
19/11/2009 10:21

I think the initial; plan was to lay the pipeline on the sea bed, but due to problems with this they are now going for a "suspended" pipe



As I see it, this pipeline is essential to win the hearts and minds of the voting population of the TRNC.



My timetable for next year is



Re-unification talks go no where

April - presidential elections in the TRNC, UBP/Pro Turkish president elected

Girne bypass, Karpass Road, water pipeline completed

Vote in the TRNC for Enosis with TR

TRNC becomes a province of Turkey

Problem Yok !



Mark