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Carndi
Joined: 12/06/2009 Posts: 613
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 10:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 31 in Discussion |
| Tony ( the liar ) Blair will not be the new EU President. What great news The EU, noted for the stupid decisions it normally makes ,yesterday elected it's first President and had the sense not to vote for Blair. A Belgian , Herman Van Rumpuy was elected President and Cathy Ashton from the UK elected as his deputy. |
smithy
Joined: 17/07/2008 Posts: 5301
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 10:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 31 in Discussion |
| This IS a day for Celebrations whoopee |
deecyprus4
Joined: 27/07/2008 Posts: 3452
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 11:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 31 in Discussion |
| You think so, I dont like Blair but who the feck is herman van rimpuy lol and cathy ashton, the only reason these were picked is because angela merkel and the idiot frenchman didnt want to be upstaged, and the choosing was all done behind closed doors..very democratic I must say lol. |
DutchCrusader
Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 11:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 31 in Discussion |
| Yesterday was another important day in the EU, inevitable on its way to become the United States of Europe. Where conflicts are debated and voted about - and not fought on the battlefield. We and our children's children will benefit of peace. P.S. I really admire the way the UK has shown its (or is it 'her'?) disgust of the EU by seriously trying to grab the Presidency... Wow, Albion and politics... |
No1Doyen
Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 11:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 31 in Discussion |
| Perhaps as a trained economist the EU are hoping he will get them out of the financial mess we are all in! |
No1Doyen
Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 11:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 31 in Discussion |
| Or if you really want to read more into his appointment: Van Rompuy is a strong opponent of Turkey joining the European Union. In 2004, he stated "Turkey is not a part of Europe and will never be part of Europe. An expansion of the EU to include Turkey cannot be considered as just another expansion as in the past". He continued "The universal values which are in force in Europe, and which are fundamental values of Christianity, will lose vigour with the entry of a large Islamic country such as Turkey." |
Aga Buyers A G
Joined: 04/10/2007 Posts: 488
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 11:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 31 in Discussion |
| Now how will Cherie fund her lifestyle - no EU - No High Profile Law case - will the chqs continue to roll ion ????? = ;0) |
kavenkoy
Joined: 10/04/2008 Posts: 1787
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 11:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 31 in Discussion |
| incidentally cathy ashton has been working as chairperson for equality ......wonder how equal the rights of north and south cypriots will look to her . kav |
Carndi
Joined: 12/06/2009 Posts: 613
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 11:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 31 in Discussion |
| I am not suggesting that the EU is an orginisation that practices democracy and I am an ardent opponent to the EU but in this instance I applaud their rejection of Blair. I would also, in my humble opinion, add that there are, at present, no politicians in the UK who should get the job. |
newscoop
Joined: 23/12/2007 Posts: 2197
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 11:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 31 in Discussion |
| So Van Rumpuy who sounds like a character from 'allo 'allo, and the former head of Hertfordshire health services a quango that I can confirm was a disaster under her tutelage are the two most important people in eussr. Gott in Himmell! We're all doooooomed I tell ye! Where's our referendum? |
No1Doyen
Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 11:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 31 in Discussion |
| I think Van Rompuy's opposition to Turkey joinung the EU is very worrying. |
elko2
Joined: 24/07/2007 Posts: 4400
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 13:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 31 in Discussion |
| I for one would not like Turkey to join those batch of hypocrites and anyway, its too much a a straight jacket to wear. If Turkey ever joins EU, it will bring sorrow and agony to both sides. Let us be realistic. ismet |
AlsancakJack
Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 14:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 31 in Discussion |
| Ismet I agree, Turkey has too much to lose by joining the EU and everything to gain by staying out of this corrupt organisation. It is a push by America to get Turkey into the EU and god knows what they have promised Turkey in return. AJ |
Woodspeckie
Joined: 25/01/2009 Posts: 2263
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 14:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 31 in Discussion |
| The President will get £350.000 a year not bad for someone nobody wanted anyway. |
Jetski
Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 584
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 17:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 31 in Discussion |
| Scoop - I worked with her at DfES in the early 2000's and she was MUCH respected. Don't malign her on very little evidence please. |
Troodo
Joined: 12/06/2008 Posts: 1002
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 17:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 31 in Discussion |
| The Americans and Russians must be falling about laughing. |
DutchCrusader
Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 17:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 31 in Discussion |
| All the people here maligning the new EU leaders were probably not asked for the job... |
FatgrumpyB
Joined: 11/03/2009 Posts: 48
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 18:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 31 in Discussion |
| I hope Turkey never joins the EU,It's a disaster,it's as democratic as north Korea and Myanmar (Burma) |
measey
Joined: 07/02/2009 Posts: 1037
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 20:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 31 in Discussion |
| hi carndi. news just broke katie price his to be his pr. |
newscoop
Joined: 23/12/2007 Posts: 2197
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 20:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 31 in Discussion |
| DfES? What the feck is that and how qualified for the job was she? |
measey
Joined: 07/02/2009 Posts: 1037
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 20:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 31 in Discussion |
| hi newsscoop. between his wife katie was the right price. |
Jetski
Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 584
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 20:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 31 in Discussion |
| Scoop - stick to football. You'll just embarass yourself. |
cornish
Joined: 30/12/2008 Posts: 186
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 21:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 31 in Discussion |
| Being run from Europe presumably means that there is no need for our houses of parliament in the UK. That'll be a great saving. |
wynyardman
Joined: 15/12/2007 Posts: 4580
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 22:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 31 in Discussion |
| Tony was out of his depth, the day he left Sedgefield. I guess "spin" makes the world go round. He needs Peter Mandelson.............. wynyardman |
Woodspeckie
Joined: 25/01/2009 Posts: 2263
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 22:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 31 in Discussion |
| see. http://www.guardian.co.uk Turkish anger over Herman Val Rompuy appointment, choice seen as a mopve to block Turkish accession to EU. |
AlsancakJack
Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 22:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 31 in Discussion |
| Cornish Message 23: Yep you are right but they will still claim their expenses. |
newscoop
Joined: 23/12/2007 Posts: 2197
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 22:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 31 in Discussion |
| I got it! Department for education and skills (Flagship project; sure start) couple that with CND, Business in the community, (battling inequality) National council for one parent families, Herts health authority, School governess, (Sorry, person) and leader of the Lords. (what was that about inequality?) 2005 Stonewall politician of the year?? Very impressive credentials for the second most powerful person in Europe. (Forgetting Angela Merkel and Nicholas Sarkozy) |
Coachie
Joined: 29/07/2008 Posts: 2135
Message Posted: 20/11/2009 22:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 31 in Discussion |
| News scoop..Who would you like to see in the new position then?? |
newscoop
Joined: 23/12/2007 Posts: 2197
Message Posted: 21/11/2009 10:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 31 in Discussion |
| Actually coachie I'd like to see the whole edifice disbanded. The lack of democratic principles it embodies make Scottish labour politics seem honest. |
lovingcyprus
Joined: 02/03/2007 Posts: 1272
Message Posted: 21/11/2009 11:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 31 in Discussion |
| Here we have the UK trying to impose democracy on Afghanistan whilst we have the EU which is probably one of the most un-democratic organisations in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Coachie
Joined: 29/07/2008 Posts: 2135
Message Posted: 21/11/2009 12:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 31 in Discussion |
| Scoop..It was ok when it was the original number,but when we came in our lot wanted to run it and every one else were against us and have not changed since.It is like all"clubs" when it it gets to big they split into their little cliques,and you can never get them to agree to anything.I see the Tory party is the only opposition party to have not agreed with the Lisbon treaty and that they have made their position clear what they intend to do if they are elected next year.Could be interesting.They took us into EU perhaps they might bring us out??? |
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