Residency is it worth the trouble

jbm2009


Joined: 20/02/2009
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 12:43

Can anyone please tell me what the benefits of taking out residency are! it seems to me it just causes you hassel and has a cost every year. I have checked with immigration and it is quite acceptable to cross to the south evey 90 days. You are then not subject to fines etc for residency being out of date as can somtimes happen through no fault of your own!!!

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 13:28

Thats what they say now but the rules are changed every five minutes here. If you overstay and leave eg go to turkey or the uk you will be fined for every day you have overstayed. Also not every policeman gives you a 90day visa you could be turned back from the greek side and not allowed back home!! Surely once a year is not too bad to be legal.

jbm2009


Joined: 20/02/2009
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 13:49

That is not logical! if you think of all the people with holiday Villa's visiting maybe every 5 weeks they don't even consider residency. I can't belive that if you did not have the residency stamp in your passport that you would ever be challeneged! The problem seems to be in taking out residency once you have done this you can be fined etc, have you ever heard of anyone being turned away who has not got the stamp in the passsport? i.e. you are jst a tourist as far as they are concerned.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 14:18

if you overstay the number of days written on your entry visa then they will fine you when you leave. Usually you get 90 days but sometimes this can be low, e.g. 20 days, if they believe you are "playing the system." You are right however, once you become a resident then missing the annual renewal can bring much more severe penalties, I believe.

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 15:33

jbm



It is true to say that customs rarely check on entry visas, but on occasion they do have clampdowns and you will not automatically be reisued with a 90 day visa. Your choice to take the risk, but if you get caught you will find yourself with fines far exceeding the cost of doing your residency and maybe even prevented from re-entering the TRNC. Doing residency is a pain but it is only once a year and you can at least come and go as you please without the 'worry' of being caught out at the border.



Paul

crofter


Joined: 16/12/2008
Posts: 1035

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 16:00

jbm2009...Everyone is allowed to stay in the TRNC for up to 3 months. Then you must either leave the island or apply for Residency. As you say some people are visiting every five weeks then they are quite within their rights not to have to have Residency. As previously said above 'one' may get away with going across to the South and getting a further90 day Visa again and again. BUT come the time when you wanted to leave through Ercan then it is more than probable that you would encouter a fine for overstaying your Visa entitlement.



If someone is living here permanently then it becomes a hassle to hopefully get the Visa renewed at a crossing every 90 days. If someone lives here full time then they should accept the rules of their chosen country. We ARE after all visitors here and should respect that.

joanie1


Joined: 25/07/2008
Posts: 164

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 16:14

What would happen if you have temporary residency, then decide you would like to move to another country but return here periodically for holidays, visit friends etc. Do you have to come back every year to renew your residency (even though you are no longer living here). Is it true that once 'in the system' you cannot get out of it.

Is there any department that would know the answer - or do the rules change all the time?



Thanks



Joan

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 16:38

I have been here 5 years, and the first week I arrived I started the procedure for Residency why not get off on the right foot, blow the task of going over to the South/Turkey etc I intended to stay here so wanted to do things the proper way, lopts say I'm mad.

crofter


Joined: 16/12/2008
Posts: 1035

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 16:42

joanie1.....If someone moved to another country and the Temporary Residency had expired when they returned to the TRNC for a visit, they would be given a 90 day visitors Visa and they would then have to leave after this time. You cannot have Temporary Residency and not renew every year.

birdy



Joined: 21/07/2009
Posts: 154

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 16:59

If you overstay your welcome in UK you get a council house wonder if you get one over trnc !!!

yorkie58


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 245

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 17:16

that was funny birdy

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 19:06

funny but true...

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 23:41

It is definite that the rules change periodically, but it depends why you are here.

When there was a bit of a blitz up, some people were getting only 7 days on their passports on re-entry form the south. I actually had it happen to me, and said 'You have missed my visa' and then the guy crossed out the 7 days and put the proper stamp on it.

If one lives here permanently, it is not worth tyring to do it any other waythan 'residency' but...... the rules have change don that. With 'Temporary Residency' you may not be out of the country for more than 3 months (in bits!) or your residency is null and void, and now with Permanent Residency, you are not allowed out for more than 6 months (which is a bit of a contradiciton to 'permanence'. But next week/month/year this could change again.

If you just want to visit now and then, don't bother with the hassle, but just remember that the air fare for escaping is more than getting your residency.

It is a matter of personal choice, but it real

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
20/11/2009 23:42

sorry - really a matter of how long you wish to stay. Short term, don't bother with residency, but long term go for it, as it is the easiest option - honestly.

nostradamus


Joined: 15/04/2008
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
21/11/2009 08:13

I would be the first to agree that the residency is an expensive and ridiculous con and don't understand why anybody who has bought a property here should need this. The only problem, however, with not having residency is that, without it, you cannot get a TRNC driving licence. If you are here for more than 90 days, your car insurance is not valid without a local licence.