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AlsancakJack
Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 13:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 14 in Discussion |
| reproman The writing is on the wall. The second recession is on its way. Fasten your seat belts and prepare for a bumpy ride. AJ |
mmmmmm
Joined: 19/12/2008 Posts: 8398
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 13:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 14 in Discussion |
| http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/de16732a-dd14-11de-ad60-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1 is the link you want... Could you explain how Greece has managed to 'single-handedly' managed to get the UN Security council to pass resolutions about the 'invalidity' of 'TRNC' AND wants TR in the EU .... and must now be ridiculed ??!1 It's just that I seem to remember TR needing to talk 'Turkey'( sic) with the IMF and they ain't 'outta da woods', yet still... |
Dixie Normus
Joined: 22/02/2008 Posts: 820
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 13:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 14 in Discussion |
| After Greece goes down the pan the UK wont be to far behind, Morgan Stanley has seen the writing on the wall, the gold standard credit rating is due to hit the rocks which will put us in the same boat as the Greeks. Wont be Gords worry as the unelected buffoon will be trying his worst to win the the next election knowing he will never be able to get the UK out of the hole he's put us in. D.N |
Corbo
Joined: 13/09/2009 Posts: 627
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 13:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 14 in Discussion |
| and then the UK! |
smithy
Joined: 17/07/2008 Posts: 5301
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 13:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 14 in Discussion |
| Think the UK have already gone down the pan Corbo |
Corbo
Joined: 13/09/2009 Posts: 627
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 13:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 14 in Discussion |
| I think you are right..and it's getting worse. |
petez
Joined: 04/12/2008 Posts: 560
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 15:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 14 in Discussion |
| Do you think this will make any difference to Greece's attitude towards Turkey in the EU? |
Dixie Normus
Joined: 22/02/2008 Posts: 820
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 15:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 14 in Discussion |
| Cant see Greeks taking their heads out the sand ther dead and burried. Same attitude as N.C when it comes to productivity, 65% of Greeks are employed by the goverment which is skint (as here) there only difference is nobodies bailing them out. Goverments frightened to change situation as its a vote loser (same here) result pandermonium and civil unrest (already starting to happen). Thank God or who ever, Mother Turkeys bailing this place out or no doubt a similar situation would occur here. D.N |
No1Doyen
Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 17:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 14 in Discussion |
| Will this affect people still on buiders electric? ) |
AlsancakJack
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Message Posted: 01/12/2009 17:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 14 in Discussion |
| Mark Message 3: ' It's just that I seem to remember TR needing to talk 'Turkey'( sic) with the IMF and they ain't 'outta da woods', yet still...' I think you need to brush up on that one, The IMF has been encouraged to offer financial help to the TR by 'outside influences' because it was hoped that the TR would change certain government policies in exchange for easy money. But it has not and will not happen. Turkey is in a far more better financial state than most if not all EU member state countries. AJ |
mmmmmm
Joined: 19/12/2008 Posts: 8398
Message Posted: 01/12/2009 18:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 14 in Discussion |
| Thanks, AJ, I'm well sprced up, today ! ;) I read the TR press... but I'm also aware the budget deficit will increase this year and that Civil Servants are being asked to take a pay increase 1.8 % less than forecast inflation . Not everyone thinks TR should 'exclude' the option of the IMF http://www.turkeyfinancial.com/news/2009/10/05/roubini-advises-imf-deal-for-turkey/ |
Reproman
Joined: 05/06/2008 Posts: 252
Message Posted: 03/12/2009 20:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 14 in Discussion |
| http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahKNNkEIm6dc&pos=7 Dec. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Turkey’s credit ranking was lifted two levels to BB+, the highest speculative-grade status, by Fitch Ratings, which cited the economy’s “resilience” during the global financial crisis. Turkey hasn’t receive emergency funding from international lenders including International Monetary Fund even after the country faced its worst slump on record, with the economy contracting 14.3 percent in the first quarter, the most since quarterly records started in 1987. Turkey “has not needed an emergency IMF bailout nor to support the banking sector,” Fitch said. “There has been no significant pick-up in dollarization or capital flight.” “This will close the IMF chapter and be a seal of approval as it will make it easier for Turkey to borrow,” said Tunc Yildirim, a director at Standard Unlu Menkul Degerler in Istanbul. “This is a pretty major move and the other rating agencies may follow." |
AlsancakJack
Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 03/12/2009 20:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 14 in Discussion |
| Reproman Unfortunately others will not accept how strong Turkey is and is still becoming. We will see and everyone has seen my predictions with regards to the second recession just about to hit the EU. Take care AJ |
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