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stingrayno1

Joined: 03/02/2009 Posts: 58
Message Posted: 02/12/2009 19:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 36 in Discussion |
| This is a message from Marian,'the website has been updated and will be up and running as from monday 7th december.' |
cooper

Joined: 23/10/2007 Posts: 3386
Message Posted: 02/12/2009 19:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 36 in Discussion |
| Thanks for the update. Cooper |
stingrayno1

Joined: 03/02/2009 Posts: 58
Message Posted: 03/12/2009 17:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 36 in Discussion |
| thats ok cooper. |
nareik

Joined: 26/01/2009 Posts: 113
Message Posted: 03/12/2009 19:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 36 in Discussion |
| That's great news. Thanks for letting us know. Nareik. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 07/12/2009 14:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 36 in Discussion |
| I'm looking forward to the updates |
Pipie

Joined: 05/01/2008 Posts: 5499
Message Posted: 07/12/2009 16:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 36 in Discussion |
| Is it up and running yet ? |
Blackpoolfan

Joined: 03/12/2008 Posts: 1568
Message Posted: 07/12/2009 16:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 36 in Discussion |
| Are we their yet??????? |
Hector

Joined: 26/08/2008 Posts: 2352
Message Posted: 07/12/2009 16:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 36 in Discussion |
| Not at 14.05 UK time. |
Blackpoolfan

Joined: 03/12/2008 Posts: 1568
Message Posted: 07/12/2009 16:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 36 in Discussion |
| Hector its 14.12 still nothing!!!!!!! |
wanderer

Joined: 05/02/2009 Posts: 1653
Message Posted: 07/12/2009 17:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 36 in Discussion |
| Its working fine in the UK |
Pipie

Joined: 05/01/2008 Posts: 5499
Message Posted: 07/12/2009 17:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 36 in Discussion |
| Still not up and running !! |
stingrayno1

Joined: 03/02/2009 Posts: 58
Message Posted: 08/12/2009 09:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 36 in Discussion |
| appologies from marian ,the internet was down so she couldnt get it done .but now its back on itll be done by wed evening. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 09/12/2009 22:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 36 in Discussion |
| Is NetHouse still down? The HBPG website is still not updated. |
Blackpoolfan

Joined: 03/12/2008 Posts: 1568
Message Posted: 09/12/2009 22:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 36 in Discussion |
| Hello is anybody there?????????????? |
cyprusishome

Joined: 31/03/2007 Posts: 2381
Message Posted: 09/12/2009 22:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 36 in Discussion |
| It is a shame that people take time to criticise and make sarcastic comments against one of the few people who is giving up her own time to help others. Marian makes slow but steady progress within the "system". The "system" here being totally differnt to the UK. You cannot go in thumping desks, shouting etc as some on this forum advocate, you have to play petty politics and at times kow tow to people you really want to kill! We are currently working with Marian on a project to submit to try and make progress on our own home, as are many others. These people work quietly with Marian personally at the Pia Bella, by e-mail etc. They never appear on forums in TRNC for obvious reasons!! So anyone that has a genuine query e-mail or telephone Marian and she will respond. OOPS her computer died on monday so e-mail may be delayed. I spoke with her at Pia Bella yesterday and communicated today regarding our own issues and she is sorry about the web site but it will come back soon. |
Blackpoolfan

Joined: 03/12/2008 Posts: 1568
Message Posted: 09/12/2009 22:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 36 in Discussion |
| Message 16, Just a bit of fun no offence intended, come down of your high horse before you get a nose bleed......... |
petez

Joined: 04/12/2008 Posts: 560
Message Posted: 09/12/2009 23:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 36 in Discussion |
| I have offered to help Marian with any aspect of her website, even to the extent of helping her put together a new one free of charge as her web hosting is quite obviously pretty terrible. I know she is very busy but I have a feeling not all is as it seems. My offer still stands. |
BillyB

Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 436
Message Posted: 09/12/2009 23:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 36 in Discussion |
| petez "I know she is very busy but I have a feeling not all is as it seems." Perhaps you should respect that then. |
petez

Joined: 04/12/2008 Posts: 560
Message Posted: 09/12/2009 23:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 36 in Discussion |
| Hi Billy, Am not sure what you mean by that comment. Marian does a fantastic job, but the problems with the website are un-neccesary and frustrating to alot of people. I just offered to help. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 10/12/2009 07:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 36 in Discussion |
| I agree with petez, a web presence is the best way of informing the 1500+ people who look to HBPG for a solution to their problems, about what is happening. They have no one else to turn to for regular updates and, like Marion, from personal experience I know what it is like to be in a situation where it looks like you're going to lose everything. Broken promises about the website being back on unsettles these people, most of whom are back in the UK facing another Christmas possibly struggling with the debt caused by paying for a property that hasn't materialised. Before BullyB, rants at what I have written and turns it into a criticism of MS, all I am saying is why doesn't she take the time to communicate through Cyprus44 instead of through the pages of Cyprus Today and tell us what is really going on. Or, like petez feels too, is there something going on which she cannot tell us about? |
Secrectcove

Joined: 06/12/2009 Posts: 59
Message Posted: 10/12/2009 08:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 36 in Discussion |
| I think one of the answers is marian is very independent and Wants the website to remain independent and not aligned to any forum / other website. From what little we know she does have a life other than helping others FREE OF CHARGE spending lots of time trying to sort her own problems out ( we all have them ) IWe do know there is a problem with one group wanting to represent all uk expats with the goverment & this has / is causing untold problems. Marian is used to using Microsoft front page however she now has to use ftp and another program to update the website this may be proving to be difficult to grasp. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 10/12/2009 09:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 36 in Discussion |
| I can't see how leaving bulletins on Cyprus44, Twitter, Facebook or Cyprus Today means that you're aligned with any of these organisations. At least with the first three you don't get misquoted as I believe she must have been in the case of the Sante Fe victims where she was reported as supporting pouring more money into property owned by Koop Bank which they intended to auction. |
petez

Joined: 04/12/2008 Posts: 560
Message Posted: 10/12/2009 11:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 36 in Discussion |
| Hi Secrectcove Re message 22 "I think one of the answers is marian is very independent and Wants the website to remain independent and not aligned to any forum / other website." I only offered to help set up her new website for her, I did not ask anything else in return. Malcolm is right, there are so many ways to get information to people, you can set up a facebook group in minutes. I am sure NCFP, Lincguide and Cyprus 44 would all let people know about it pretty quick. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 10/12/2009 18:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 36 in Discussion |
| according to secretcove, "Due to rain leaking window Marians computer is in the repair shop after speaking to her today !!" |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 11/12/2009 12:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 36 in Discussion |
| Instead of levelling criticism at Marian Stokes and HBPG, people who do so, or are about to, should, before 'committing to the keyboard', contemplate the thoughtlessness, maliciousness and potential harm of such an action towards one utterly selfless person. Having personally attended a fair number of HBPG sessions at the Pia Bella Hotel on Tuesday afternoons, I have witnessed the pressure placed on Marian and her helpers by not only force of numbers, but the complexity of the problems for which remedial advice is being sought. Is it any wonder that, faced with such a barrage of insurmountable problems, due to the lawlessness of TRNC, and being continuously fobbed off and ignored by duplicitous politicians, that Marian has been made, at times, thoroughly physically ill? People should save their criticism for those that deserve it - the politicians, who obviously condone and support all this criminality. |
petez

Joined: 04/12/2008 Posts: 560
Message Posted: 11/12/2009 14:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 36 in Discussion |
| Tenakoutou you are another person not actually reading the post... see message 24 |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 11/12/2009 14:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 36 in Discussion |
| Petez/Msg27: I did read your Msg 24. I certainly didn't intend to include you and, since you made no criticism - I see none in your Msg24, I'm left wondering why you should think I did. In fact, I applaud you and all those wishing to help Marian and the HBPG. |
petez

Joined: 04/12/2008 Posts: 560
Message Posted: 11/12/2009 14:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 36 in Discussion |
| Sorry if I mis-understood.. it sounded like you were "Instead of levelling criticism at Marian Stokes and HBPG, people who do so, or are about to, should, before 'committing to the keyboard', contemplate the thoughtlessness, maliciousness and potential harm of such an action towards one utterly selfless person." I don't think anyone on this thread has criticised Marian |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 11/12/2009 15:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 36 in Discussion |
| malsancak/Msg30: I am in complete agreement that you should publish whomsoever's views. Indeed, my condemnation of Marian's critics emanates from NCFP, which, after all, must be construed as 'part and parcel' of this forum - the source of most of NCFP's contributors. |
petez

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Message Posted: 11/12/2009 15:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 36 in Discussion |
| I dont think you can criticise people on one website for views contained on another one... |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 11/12/2009 15:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 36 in Discussion |
| msg 31, "Indeed, my condemnation of Marian's critics emanates from NCFP, which, after all, must be construed as 'part and parcel' of this forum - the source of most of NCFP's contributors." Not necessarily, for example, yesterday there were 1159 "unique visitors" only 292 came via C44. |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 11/12/2009 15:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 36 in Discussion |
| We can continue to 'split hairs' 'until the cows come home'! The fact remains that Marian Stokes deserves only the utmost admiration and recognition for her untiring efforts on behalf of so many desperate and disillusioned cheated people. My hackles rise when I read of any criticism towards her, or her helpers, at HBPG. That is all I have to say on the matter! |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 11/12/2009 16:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 36 in Discussion |
| I'll say it yet again, her website was used by property buyers and victims in the UK in order to gain update information. It has not been working for nearly 4 months, petez has offered to help her out. She seems to be having lots of problems WITH THE WEBSITE and there are no criticisms on this thread except against non-existent critics ON THIS BOARD. If you want to have a go at critics on NCFP why not go to that website and post your views. Yes she "deserves only the utmost admiration and recognition for her untiring efforts on behalf of so many desperate and disillusioned cheated people" and no one on this thread has said otherwise, unless you are able to say where please stop YOUR criticisms ON THIS THREAD |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 11/12/2009 16:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 36 in Discussion |
| What's done, is done. And I'll say it yet again: that is all I have to say on the matter! |
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