New Book Out:101 Ways to Reach a 50TL Monthly Electricity Bill in TRNC

Poppy2010


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Message Posted:
13/12/2009 19:13

Available Monday 11th January 2009, no matter what size of property you have!

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
13/12/2009 20:06

That should be interesting seeing as our bill is more than that when we arent even in the country lol.

billyboy1


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Message Posted:
13/12/2009 20:43

available



11th jan 2009 !!!!!!!!

exnavalperson


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 14:16

Poppy 2010



Everybody who lives here KNOWS this cannot be done. So nobody posts here and nobody will buy the book.

Pipie


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 14:51

exnavalperson . Give poppy 2010 a chance !!!

exnavalperson


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 15:54

Sorry. I'm not feeling well today!

Pipie


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 16:26

exnavalperson, hope you feel better soon, no worries we all have off days !!! POPPY 2010 good luck with it !!!

RoxyBob


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 11:45

Poppie2010



How much for the book and where do we buy it?

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 11:48

There is only one way to get it that low;



Pull out the main fuse, use no electricity and just pay your standing charge............

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 11:49

When you say "reach a 50tl monthly electricity bill" do you mean that 50tl will be the MAXIMUM you will pay no matter how much you use?

malsancak


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 12:10

There are ways to cut your electricity bill without cutting your energy consumption but they cost more to set up than the savings they make, e.g. use more gas and change to gas appliances, use solar and wind power or even do what some locals do, plug into your neighbour's supply without them knowing

Activator


Joined: 23/12/2009
Posts: 44

Message Posted:
12/01/2010 12:12

Hi there.



I am an electrical engineer and may throw some light on this. ( no pun intended). The three main items that bump up electricy bills are as follows.



1. Immersion heater. These are typically 3kw. in simple terms for every hour (or part of) that the immersion is on the cost will be 3 (units) X 35 Kuros. So 1 hour a day per month = 30 ytl. So you could cut that down by half if you shower less! so lets say 15ytl.

2. Fridgefreezer. When running will use approx 1kw so will be around 30 ytl per month.

3. Pool pump. The biggest consumer of all. The average pump for a 9x4 metre pool will be .75kw. Run for 2 hours a day at the momment will be 20ytl a month.



Add on Lighting,TV and washing machine you are looking at another 30ytl a month.



Even with careful management this will total 95ytl a month. In spring/summer the pool pump will need at least 4 hours a day.



I would interested in acheiving the impossible.

simbas



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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 12:17

Hi Activator , would you still have to have the pool pump on for about 4hrs a day if you were using Zerochlor ?

many thanks , Simbas

Chegwin


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 12:18

On the subject of Lekky consumption:-

Is it cheaper to leave the immersion heater on all the time just clicking on and off topping up the already hot water in short bursts or to have it work flat out for however long to heat a full tank of cold water?



Chegwin

scruff


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 12:39

Chegwin. No it is not. The hot tanks here are not as well insulated as in the UK. & given that they are outside (mostly) leaving the immersion on all the time would result in much larger bils. I doubt if even in the UK. that strategy would work. Remember that in the UK, most people are heating their water through CH & usually gas. In the winter the boiler is on nearly all day.

Back in 2002/3 when electricity bills here were much lower (cheaper per unit than UK) a neighbour tried a month with leaving her immersion on 24/7. The bill, when it arrived the following month, was horrendous.

MrsSnakes



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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 12:53

Unless of course you are on Builders Electric. Mine is roughly 450 TL a month at the moment. I do not use the dishwasher, washing machine everyday or even the oven!! Pool is on 2 hours a day. Heating I have cut back to 2-3 hours a night.

joandjelly


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 13:19

What form of heating Mrs Snakes? I ask because we are on builders and our costs are around 300TL a month with similar usage that you have described.

MrsSnakes



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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 13:21

joandjelly, gas tank and boiler. All low energy bulbs too!!

Chegwin


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 13:50

MrsSnakes

I may be missing something here but if you are on gas (Central I presume) heating then then why cut back at the risk of your health?

I doubt the gas tank and boiler will run up a huge electricity bill.

Just a thought.

MrsSnakes



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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 14:08

Hi Chegwin, because the pump comes on to circulate the water allbeit a small amount but I do have a log fire and I get Mr Snakes to cuddle me more to keep warm!!! I also try to conserve gas, this is going so quickly. We had a delivery of 350 litres 4 weeks ago and it has all gone.

May seem a bit petty to some.....but I take a meter reading everyday at 10am to keep a check on what units we have used and monitor it.

henrik



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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 14:13

so where is the book? 11.01.2010?

henrik



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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 14:15

so where is the book? 11.01.2010?

Activator


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 14:20

Heating circulating pump around 100 watts max on hi speed. Thats 10 hours for 30 odd kurus. 2 ytl a week. And that's if the pump runs continuously or is cycled by the boiler pump over run stat. Keep the heating on for what it costs, and ignore uniformed remarks like leave the immersion on all the time.

Activator


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 14:21

Is zerochlor a salt system?

sporty


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 14:26

aircon through the hot months will need to be used,this bumps it up a bit i would assume?

simbas



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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 14:37

Hi Activator , it keeps your pool clear

Simbas

Activator


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 14:38

You are correct. 600-1400 watts as apposed to an 18 inch fan being 100 watts. Not quite the same but that's all we ahve used for 7 years. Mind you, we don't do july and august in NC if we can help it.

Vidal


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 15:01

I can reach 50tl easy..its stopping it from going above I have a problem with!

malsancak


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 15:13

I think this thread will eventually find 101 ways to save paying for the book

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 15:23

"I can reach 50tl easy..its stopping it from going above I have a problem with!"



Vidal, you took the words right out of my mouth.... ))

millzer


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 18:35

I wonder if the book comes with a mone back guarantee

millzer


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 18:35

Sorry... moneY

malsancak


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 18:39

If it is sold in north Cyprus, then it is covered by the local consumer laws.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 18:43

Mal. "If it is sold in north Cyprus, then it is covered by the local consumer laws"



That's reassuring!

rowlo



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Message Posted:
12/01/2010 20:12

i hope its turkish title , get it lol.

laptagal


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:13

So, what is the cheapest way to heat water for showers in the winter?

Aussie


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:39

Laptagal



If you have the standard Solar water heaters it pays to keep track of how much sunshine there has been and adjust the time you switch on the immersion heater accordingly. On really sunny days you may not need it at all or just for 15-20 minutes and on in between days 30 mins or so is usually ok. Showering in the early evening as opposed to mornings also saves a lot as you are using it after the maximum solar heating has occurred.



Probably water heating cost would be less if you used a gas booster system or the ultimate would be a wood burner with a water jacket using the surplus heat from the fire.



Aussie

malsancak


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 14:17

Yep, Aussies, except showering around 3pm is better as once the sun moves to an angle with the panel, on otherwise cold days, the water temperature drops quite rapidly.

laptagal


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Message Posted:
14/01/2010 11:40

Thanks Aussie, can you explain how a gas booster system works please? We don't want to have central heating unless we really have to - can the booster be fitted without it? If so, any idea how much?

laptagal


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Message Posted:
14/01/2010 20:29

Are you there Aussie?

Aussie


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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 18:18

Laptagal



Basically I understand you can fit what is effectively a small gas instant water heater (not part of central heating unit) which uses the water from the existing solar tank and than heats it further to a desired temperature setting if necessary.



I am not a plumber and don't know the cost here, but in Australia gas boosted solar systems are considered the best solar systems you can get for ongoing running costs but cost more to buy. Perhaps you can ask a plumber here for likely costs and installation details



Aussie

laptagal


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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 18:42

Thanks Aussie.