please be at girne court tuesday 22 december

cyprusishome


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Message Posted:
20/12/2009 16:42

Support in Court

Geoff and Mary Day would be grateful for your support when Geoff appears in the Girne Criminal Court on Tuesday the 22nd December at 09:30. They are hoping that this will be their last appearance and that the Judge will deliver his decision on Friday the 25th December. Please read their story and join them at the Courts on Tuesday.



19th December 2009

To read their story go to - http://www.hbpg-trnc.net/documents/Press/CT060908_day.html



You will note the date the judge will give his decision.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 17:03

An AGA victim is in court on the 23rd December so it looks like a plot to wreck Christmas for some - http://latchfords.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!AED4FE7679CA3C33!2229.entry

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 17:03

It is typical of the TRNC that this farce has even come to court. This builder is a rogue, and has persistently demanded a final payment, although he has no intention of finishing Geoff and Mary's house.

This sort of action on the part of the builder and the authorities is but one example of why I chose to leave the country.

I wish I could be there to give them my support at the court.

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 17:15

I am so sorry that I cannlot be there. I would but have to go to Famagusta. My heart bleeds for them, but let's hope that the message from the judge on the 25th fits in with the message of that date to the world.

Why do I somehow doubt it - naughty me.

As to leaving the country, dear Kaiserphil, a lot of us would but can't. Para yok!

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 17:32

Marie, I was lucky enough to be able to sell my house, albeit the protracted sale was a nightmare. That also resulted in a number of court appearances, as a result of an apparent attempted fraud. I had to pay for the court appearances, as my buyer would not pay.

I think it unlikely that I would have found another (genuine) buyer!

beeches


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 134

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 17:47

Re Message 1 - Don't believe everything you read in the newspapers!

cyprusishome


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Message Posted:
20/12/2009 18:03

msg 6.



I obviously have no idea what you are talking about and unless you wish to expound your knowledge so we all know what you are trying to say, I am going to the court to support a person who may be thrown out of the country and or sent to jail.



Other than that anything else I know is from a reliable source.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 19:02

David why would he be sent to jail. We are in the Robb train also. I have written it from my memory otherwise I will go mad. I wish him all the very best of luck and hopefully the tide is turning. They may realise they need us here xxxx

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 19:32

This is a disgrace. I have just read the article. How can the authorities treat people this way?

Those poor people, my heart goes out to them.

I just hope that justice prevails. xxx

I will be thinking of them on Tuesday and keeping everything crossed for the Judge to make a sensible decision and kick this builder into touch.

Tx

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 23:03

Problem is that it depends on who the judge is.



Like anywhere in world each judge has preferences to what he is presented with.



So if he likes the couple, no problem. If he hates foreigners, the hangman will be waiting.



So get along and shout for justice.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 23:09

I understand the anger of people at the system when they see injustice. I hear of so many wrong things that I get upset on a regular basis.

Three young cashier girls working for Lemar, Famagusta branch were sacked on suspicion of theft over three years ago. They were all questioned by the police and their i.d. cards were retained and banned from leaving the country. They deny any wrong doing. Three years on and they have not been formally charged yet. Every time they want to go to Turkey they have to apply to court for permission which costs them money. When they apply for a job, they are asked to show their i.d. cards and when they say that the police have got it, they say good bye to another employment opportunity.

Numerous applications to judges to get their i.d. cards back has not yielded any results. The attorney promises to speed up their case and the judges refrain from taking radical action and order their i.d. cards back. Each time the police is given a never ending last chance to bring the case to court. The truth of the matter is that they have no clue how to stick any charges on them and finally hope that they will despair and admit to being guilty. What can I say? If I was their advocate, probably I would bang my fist on the bench and get sent to prison myself. Sometimes I feel like a rebel.

ismet

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 23:11

To Elko I ask"iSN'T THERE ANYONE IN THE GOVERNMENT WHO COULD GET SOME JUSTICE GOING? There must be some good men in there?

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
20/12/2009 23:14

To Elko I ask"iSN'T THERE ANYONE IN THE GOVERNMENT WHO COULD GET SOME JUSTICE GOING? There must be some good men in there?

littleme


Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 299

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 02:16

Geoff and I would like to thank all for the support it touches our hearts that you all feel this way thank you it means a lot.

We feel that we will not get justice but hope that tuesday our nightmare will end.

Many thanks

Geoff & Mary Day

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 10:57

Have the English language newspapers been contacted so that they might attend? What about BRS, etc? I have a contact in Cyprus Today and I will speak to him.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 11:41

I was talking to Marian at HBPG last week and I think it is well covered.



I am sure BRS will be us usual conspicuous by there absence. Like Remembrance day unveiling.

professoregit


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 381

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 13:21

This case is really indicative of the way things are stacked against the ex-pat community here. How many

so called Builders, Advocates, Estate Agents, etc, with much greater known criminal activities, have been subjected to this type of justice. Me thnks none! Similar is some respects to Jez the hairdresser, use of a massive sledgehammer to crack a walnut. As I've said before, in terms of police, judiciary and positions of power, this place is rotten to the core. Shameless!

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 13:45

Mary - message 14 - we are rooting for you darling. Wish I could be there to give support in person.

Phil

flossie44


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Posts: 223

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 14:02

Geoff and Mary,



We will be thinking of you on the 22nd. If there is any justice in this world the court will find in your favour.



Janet (Malatya)

cyprusishome


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Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 14:34

I would like to add a warning to all that come along.



I have been on some of the mass meetings here and the one thing that you must be aware of -



THIS IS NOT A PROTEST.



any indication that it is anything other than support for these poor people may result in action by the authorities.

yorkie58


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 245

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 15:24

Geoff and Mary, we have never met you and we don't know you but we will be at court tomorrow to support you. Keep your heads held high.



Michele

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 15:33

I will be thinking of you both tomorrow too x

It is shameless what they have done.



Keep strong.

Hugs and loves

Tx

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 16:35

Good Luck Geoff and Mary. Hope you get the decision you want.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 17:05

I have read this sad story my prayers and my heart will be with you. People in the UK reading this will be shocked as to how you were treated. Things like this are realing turning me from this place. The very best of luck and may justice prevail.xx

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 20:27

I have never met Geoff & Mary but I am sure they will be helped by the support on the forum and by the support that you lot out there will be giving at the court tomorrow.



Have no idea if peaple are allowed into the court to listen but will give it a try.

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 20:58

I am sure you will be allowed in as long as you are all quiet. Any sign of a 'protest' and there will be problems as ex pats are not allowed to 'demonstrate', but I am sure that Geoff and Mary will feel upheld by the presence of fellowcountrymen who care.

Wish I could be there to lend support and to get the story out, but unfortunately I cannot. If someone likes to tell me all about it afterwards, I would be VERY interested.

So, if anyone goes and would like to meet me on Wednesday, I would be happy to do so.

Chin up Geoff and Mary.

LostFound


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 387

Message Posted:
21/12/2009 21:04

Plan to come and support you tomorrow. Why is it when I click on the link I cannot see the whole page of printed text, just some paragraphs that have been cut off so I cant read the whole story/

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 10:19

Very best of luck to geoff and mary today x

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
22/12/2009 10:28

Whatever the outcome of this travesty of 'justice', the British and, if possible, other foreign media should be alerted ASAP.

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 12:32

I believe the appearance was for 9.30am this morning. Any news?

elko2



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Message Posted:
22/12/2009 12:44

I hope they don't get another postponement. Who is their advocate?

ismet

elko2



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Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 13:12

The court is the place where all the evidence is evaluated and its wrong for us to speculate on the outcome. However, I do not approve the way the police delays matters unnecessarrily because that is injustice in itself. If the accused does not normally live here, the injustice is multipled by several factors.



I am also very suspicious about delays by the police. I suspect that if the evidence is not very strong they tend to postpone it rather than admit to their mistake and withdraw it as soon as possible. A withdrawal requires the permission of Chief Attorney and this may explain why cases are dragged on for so long. We really need to reform the system very badly.



If the accused is a poor helpless person, the chances of harsh handling by the police (to put it very lightly) is higher.



Finally I wish good luck to Geoff and Mary and hope that their ordeal ends today.

ismet

Secrectcove


Joined: 06/12/2009
Posts: 59

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 14:02

Not sure of the outcome but there was a very good turnout to support them, I spotted several members of this forum there as well as Marion stokes.

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 14:11

Any news?

Tx

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 15:00

Still no news?

Secrectcove


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Posts: 59

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 15:21

new hearing 20 th jan no court appearance today next installment to follow !!!

kaiserphil


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Message Posted:
22/12/2009 15:34

Surprise, surprise! Presume that is because the police are aware that it is a fit-up for their friend the builder, and really have no evidence?

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 16:19

A bit surprised at msg 33, I do not call SEVEN a good turn out especially after all the comments here.



MSG 37, it is actually quite positive news Mary will relate herself later. Plus she now has your details and will contact later.



We got there at 9.15. Just after 11.00 they were told to come back at 2pm.



We returned for just before 2 and they were called in about 2.15. Mary will detail later.



A good event happened this pm, an appearance was due of 4 drugs smugglers so loads of press about. Because the police were late one of the press members picked up on Geoff and Mary stood around. Mostly Turkish press and they were amazed at the story of idiocy about this case. So anyone read the Turkish and Cypriot dailys look out for a possibly interesting story.



All back again on 20th Jan for a hopefully positive outcome



David

Secrectcove


Joined: 06/12/2009
Posts: 59

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 16:22

I do you know apathy rules here david

Hector


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Message Posted:
22/12/2009 19:51

Any idea why it was adjourned yet again?

Hector


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Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 19:54

Are the days allowed to leave the TRNC whilst this is ongoing? I assume they are as this has been dragging on since September 2008. What a disgrace!

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 20:59

Hector, yes I do know but as stated above so that the full and correct info is passed over, Mary will post herself. No doubt after several lemonades.



All I will say is that this postponement was given and in criminal terms should turn out better for Geoff who is the one that is charged.



Geoff's passport is impounded.



secretcove, apologies. It is a shame that so many people spend so much time and expend so much CO2 on the forums but when asked to turn out for a couple of hours to help................. If there had been 30 or 40 people there this pm when the Turkish Mainland press were present I think there really could have been a difference made to the thinking of the press. As it is, another opportunity lost through apathy.



Back to Geoff and Mary. they still need support so look out for details of next appearance and get along, that is the only way we can effect change in a system that is at best flawed.

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 21:18

I have been thinking about them all day and waiting for the outcome, though being here in Northern Ireland I could not be there at the court.



As has always been said... 'You can't go back to do it' Someday we may ALL need help and support and if we do not give it, how can we expect to recieve it ?



Best of Luck to them and hopefully RIGHT will win out.