[SUGGESTION] A general pardon and reconciliation

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
05/01/2010 12:46

Just reading a thread about 6xm [ http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/28792.asp ] reminded me of a suggestion I wrote on another board. So why not post it here also. Only five days ago we wished each other here and there "a happy, prosperous etc New Year" - did we mean it? If so, why not start this new year with a general pardon for all long and short time banned members? It may calm down the sometimes too excited moods. All of us know the rules here, it's up to us how 2010 will be. Furthermore I offer everybody here to communicate again (no exceptions), I'm sure it can be done in a civilised way.

P.S. It's up to board manager Izzet of course, but if this thread gets some substantial support he may do as kindly requested.

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 12:49

DC



A good idea, it should liven the board up a bit again......



Mike

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
05/01/2010 12:50

DC you are jesting are you not? xx

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
05/01/2010 12:52

RE msg 3, dizzycows: No I'm not jesting. I'm dead serious.

dizzycows


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Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 13:03

Well DC have a Happy New Year then boy, I know I will, as I am going to carry on laughing and smiling even when the smokers light up and I nearly die.!(Joke)



Perhaps we all can 'reline' our thoughts to being more accommodating to each other.. x

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 13:43

Good idea DC

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 13:44

If anyone feels they have been unjustly banned then they should contact Izzet directly and ask for a 'Pardon'.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 14:01

A pardon may not be a bad thing.



A ban for people who call decent forum users RACIST Just because they are not afraid to speak should be put in place for these Small minded people.

PaulW



Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 651

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 16:53

Bill you and I know of one unjust ban, but as you told that person there is nothing you can do about it.

Great idea Hans, but it will not be actioned.



(A cynical) Paul

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 17:26

Paul

Next time we meet I will explain a few things that I think you are not aware of.

Take care

AJ

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 17:28

What these or something else?



http://www.phpbb88.com/trncvillaowners/viewtopic.php?t=397&start=30&mforum=trncvillaowners

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 18:01

I agree to the idea and think it has good possibilities but how many of us will it need before the mods consider it ??

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 18:02

Aw come on AJ, what you playing at? explain to us all, not to just a few chosen members, thats discrimination my boy!.....

edmund


Joined: 05/02/2008
Posts: 33

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 18:18

Message 10

"Paul



Next time we meet I will explain a few things that I think you are not aware of.



Take care



AJ"



Message 13 "Aw come on AJ, what you playing at? explain to us all, not to just a few chosen members, thats discrimination my boy!....."



...to say nothing of being a breach of confidence and an abuse of power.



Edmund

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 07:30

edmund,



Got that one correct.



Have a good friend who has been mod on another forum for about 3 years. They will not even tell me if a person is a member of that forum or not.



Their forum view is that any correspondence between members and admin/mods is 100% confidential.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 07:56

AJ we have had fallouts and I have stuck up for you but I think you are getting a little bit power crazy, this is a BB, you are not the President of a huge country and you are abusing your power by only informing some of your so called knowledge, you need to get out more and lighten up a bit.

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 08:37

Hi edmund ,to be fair , " Next time we meet i will explain a few things you are not aware of " where did AJ say he was going to betray a confidence ? , you can explain something without betraying a confidence

Simbas

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 08:41

DC I personally think its a great idea, hope it works and when the 'offenders' do come back they learn to be civil to all.



Dizzycows.

Why should DC be jesting???



Chris

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 10:07

I'm sure it can be done. Even the Hippo and I have not exchanged any unfriendly or hostile posts - and it is already January 6! I may even buy his poetry book and ask him to sign it... (As a foreigner with a limited knowledge of the English language I feel obliged to add here: the above is a joke! Dutch sense of humour, you know...)

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 10:18

RE msg 21, kusuksksoy: Whatever - msg 1 was and is serious.

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 10:18

Msg 20.It's a shame then you dont extend to everyone else on your 'blacklist'.



Msg 3 & 6 ring any bells?

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/28665.asp

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 10:24

RE msg 23, gooligan: (...) It's a shame then you dont extend to everyone else on your 'blacklist'. (...)

=> Gooligan, from my msg1: "Furthermore I offer everybody here to communicate again (no exceptions), I'm sure it can be done in a civilised way." What did I write wrong this time?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 10:24

Why don't we all agree to make this year a 'forgive and forget' year?



Lets just let bygones be bygones and move onwards and upwards. We're all adults and yes we all have opinions but lets try and keep it civil. You never know you might like it!



By the way this post is not intended for any one person - I'm just generalising.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 10:29

Bill I agree, so can we have my mate border back please, pretty please xxxxxxxxx

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 11:07

Msg 27 , ?????????

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 11:14

DC's appeal to re-instate banned members should be viewed by 'the powers that be' as a demonstratively public spirited gesture, that can, surely, only generate the feeling of good will that this forum so obviously needs to recapture.

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 11:15

Simbas,it's probably Nige.



Hans,it was the timing of your 'offer'.You upset a hell of a lot of people on the Wooton Basset thread,even your friends were telling you that you had gone too far but you kept on and eventually the thread was removed.Do you just expect folk to forget what you wrote just because the thread has been removed and then ask for an amnesty?

Furthermore,do you not realise that if you hadn't created your blacklist of 'persona non grata' then you wouldn't have to offer to communicate with them again.Do you reaslise how childish this is?

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 11:23

I think Hans is offering an olive branch here, already the temperature is beginning to rise in this thread.

Oleander


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 11:25

I don't know the history DC, but your suggestion is an excellent one for the successful continuance of any forum.

All forums have a few members who rile others and cause a bit of disruption but it is usually the case that their threads also attract the most posts!

Once forums chuck off everyone who ruffles feathers or doesn't post in agreement with everyone, they quickly turn to discussing fluffy kittens or knitting patterns (in the case of C44 this would more likely be reams of threads recommending local eateries and where to get the cheapest pint of Effes or whatever) and then the membership dwindles down to the few diehards who always agree with each other and post to throw cyber bouquets at each other. And becomes VERY boring.

If there were clearer laid out rules about what is and is not allowed to be discussed on this 'non discussion' forum, it would save some the bother of posting in the first place (assuming they read the rules)

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 11:31

gooligan. To be fair to Hans' his blacklist of 'persona non grata', as you put it, was probably done 'tongue in cheek'. Hans does have a funny sense of humour.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 11:38

RE msg 30, gooligan: (...) Hans,it was the timing of your 'offer'. (...)

=> It was an (extended) repeat of something I wrote on TRNC VO before I did it here. And for the rest I refer to msg 1.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 11:42

Hans. Your statement in message1 "All of us know the rules here, it's up to us how 2010 will be. Furthermore I offer everybody here to communicate again (no exceptions), I'm sure it can be done in a civilised way" says it all.



Well done to you. Now if only everyone else can accept that.

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 12:17

Bill,this was an unsolicited email he sent me,does this sound tongue in cheek to you?



=> You won't have an answer from me on any board. I take your text, coming from your primitive, uneducated mind and written in bad English, as a compliment. Hans Doeleman ================

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 12:19

Gooligan dont worry for its not what he is saying that matters but how he says it. I think the 'tone' of the above is pretty clear

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 12:24

RE msg 37, gooligan: If you prefer to live on in the past and want to do it all over again - then it's definitely your choice. I won't join your choice. I refer to message 1 - but I'm beginning to realise that I can't please you all. So be it, but at least I've tried.

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 12:31

Hans,I don't doubt the sincerity behind message 1,it's your ability to carry it out when someone has a difference of opinion.The past has taught us you go on a full frontal personal attack,lets hope the sentiment behing msg 1 holds true and I'll say no more about it

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 12:33

That's sorted then. We've agreed to move forward and let bygones be bygones. Well done to both of you.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 12:35

DC my dear fellow, in life you cannot please every one, fact. So I applaud you for offering an olive branch, just dont let it snap,maybe it might bend a little !!!!......



The actual thread where you blacklisted people just had me in stitches, so all of us should now just move on. Laugh and the world laughs with you ..... Not at you.......(a saying)

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 12:39

Well said, gooligan. I found a way to post in the future: only about dogs (although...), chess, ancient and medieval history and the portal I've started. Very few people read such posts anyway - so I avoid all problems...

edmund


Joined: 05/02/2008
Posts: 33

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 13:34

Message 17 “Hi edmund ,to be fair , \" Next time we meet i will explain a few things you are not aware of \" where did AJ say he was going to betray a confidence ? , you can explain something without betraying a confidence

Simbas”

Simbas, I salute you!

To retain your innocence whilst acting as a moderator on an internet forum is a truly remarkable achievement.

Irrespective of the level of detail, any discussion pertaining to the board activities of one member, between a board official and another member which involves information gained as a result of that officials’ position, is a breach of confidence, a betrayal of trust and an abuse of power.

Edmund

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 15:06

I think this thread has also now run it's course. If no one has any objections I'll close it down.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/01/2010 15:08

Objection. (Out of principle...) Go ahead, Bill! CU.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/01/2010 15:16

Nigel may be right, Bill.

dizzycows


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Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 15:22

Why keep closing the threads, some one might be away for a couple of days/week. What is the problem in keeping a thread open? does it take up space?? ..

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 15:23

Okay. I'll leave it open.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 15:28

Our old mate Pikey came back numerous times and only kept geting banned because he could not help himself in being spiteful and obnoxious to people on this site. We were all thiefs etc,



I have no problem with Mark coming back....only advice would be to keep off the Dopi....and he should be alright.



That's it.

dizzycows


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Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 15:32

Dopi? whos dopi? ..... lol

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 15:39

dopi TV....dopey!



lol

XXXX

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 16:05

"Ve haf vays of making sure you don't mention ze Dopi!"

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 10:43

Message 19



Hans if you have a limited knowledge of the English language then there is definately no hope for me!!!!!!



Chris

dizzycows


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Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 12:19

Tiggy I know who and what Dopi is, just trying to lighten up the thread!!!!

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 12:23

yeh right !

dizzycows


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Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 13:30

What Simbas?? please can you enlighten, all this stuff on here is nothing of importance, DC made a good suggestion and now every one is falling out with each other.... dopi or dopey.?????....

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 13:36

dizzer, I think we need floodlights.........dark and gloomy on here at the moment !

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 13:42

I know, its so sad that every one is falling out big time on a New Year, surely things can be made more light hearted without falling out, never to speak again? ...Dopey or what...

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 17:05

I am rapidly losing interest in this board,a pity after waiting so long to get broadband.From being a useful source of information, (50% of which is now usually wrong or supposition), it's become a schoolyard, a dumping ground for angst, an emotional rubbish tip for those to whom a keyboard is a licence to wind-up others.When I lived in Spain,after a while sensible people stopped posting on the local forums, and got on with the business of living their lives, not pretending that the nonsensical drivel appearing in print was actually of any interest to anyone with more than a lukewarm IQ.Stand back and re-read some of the stuff posted here in the last few days, ask yourself "Does it actually give pleasure, or enhance life, or indeed matter in the grand scheme of things?" No....it's a lot of bleating about f*** all really, visual graffiti.So glad I chose to live way out near Bahceli, the back end of beyond. My wife says I am sad for being a member of the 44 forum these days.

TonyE

jinyx


Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 161

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 17:41

TONY, you must be bloody mind reader, you have just posted what I was thinking, and I'm sure a lot of others as well. I think the lack of social structure here as opposed to spain is reflected in the postings on the 44 forum, ie, "nothing better to do!".

racoonchic



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Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 18:51

good luck dc have a great 2010

Oleander


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 02:34

Well said Tony. I've said much the same on another thread. Just lately (apart from lost dog threads and the recommendations of eateries and their opening closing dates), it seems most new threads (and certainly the most popular threads - therefore they must be enjoying it) are all about interpersonal disputes, revelations of personal email contents, off board spats and what have you. NO interest whatsoever to anyone new to the forum, or anyone who hasn't a clue who or what they are trashing and slagging off. Maybe the seemingly over zealous mods should turn their attention to getting rid of a few of these sort of threads, lots of which seem to be nothing more than 'Attention Seeking Threads' or a ploy to get others to post expressing sympathy or support for the disgruntled member. All very sad and all very boring.

jinyx


Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 161

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 09:28

Ref msg59: Spot on!, With both your's and Tony's comments. Dont you get sick to the back teeth of all that " nobody loves me" crap, and the countless postings on bloody dogs for christs sake. Or, "I know what I'll do say I'm leaving to see how many people will say they love me" and do you know what? its always the same old people that fall for it all the time.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 09:40

It's a pity that the intention of msg 1 was made to derail somewhere in this thread. But not by me, I'm sure.