Ban ready to engage in cyprus talks

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 10:45

United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki Moon has expressed his willingness and readiness to engage himself in the Cyprus negotiation process whenever the time is appropriate. The UN Chief also expressed the hope that during the two rounds of negotiations this month, the leaders of the two communities will be able to agree on longstanding issues.



http://www.brtk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1068:ban-ready-to-engage-in-cyprus-talks&catid=5:kktc&Itemid=28

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 11:05

Morning Bill,

And what does Christofias think about moon wanting to become more activeley involved.Its well known that Talat asked for help months ago but his request was turned down.Moon sshould change his chrisiTan name to Keith and become "the wildman" of the U.N.

Paul.

TheScarlets



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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 12:09

More like "Harvey"

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 12:44

He could drop his pants and 'moon' that way! About all he's good for! UN an inadequate, inefficient, incompetent, ineffective, useless quango!



Richard

Aslan


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Posts: 757

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:02

As soon as the talks fail Mr Moon will find it an appropriate time to engage himself in the process, why o why are these two men wasting their time meeting each other, if they really want to receive the Nobel Peace Prize they should close the borders and let the two communities get on with developing their lives.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:15

Asian,

Close the borders.What about all the people from the North that ply their trade in the south,

Paul

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:21

Msg 6

They will become refugees if caught on the South side when all the gates are closed!



Richard

rdsteve


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:34

If the green line is closed it will affect a lot more people in the North than the South. What about all the Brits that fly into Larnaka and Pafos. Think how many TC's will have no work. Two states would be better with the green line left open. TRNC will become a third world country if not careful, the money needed to put a decent infastructure in cannot be supplied by Turkey they have problems of there own. All the Brits on here who want to see the talks fail and shut the borders are shooting themselves in the foot as property prices will plummet no tourist will come and food and goods prices will go sky high. Welcome to Zimbabwe no 2.



Steve

MarkVPiazza


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Posts: 530

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:38

If a two state solution was adopted & recognised, the TRNC would be in the EU therefore the border would have to remain open by EU law (freedom of movement of citizens)

barnaclebill


Joined: 12/12/2008
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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:49

Ref Msg 4,

Richard Tell that to the 1000,s that were saved here in Cyprus who would not be here today if it wasn't for the protection of the UN. Obviously another subject you no nowt about .

Engage brain before opening mouth IMHO

BB

Aslan


Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 757

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:52

Msg 6



One would hope that as a county of Turkey businesses could ply their trade at home.



The TRNC is already very much like a UK administrative county council, we have:



The President would become Mayor as appointed by the President of Turkey

The Prime Minister would become County Council Chief Executive

The Deputy Prime Minister would become County Council Assistant Chief Executive



and they would have a committee of specialists in finance, health, employment e.t.c



The North Cyprus County Council would be split into Boroughs i.e Lefkosa East, Lefkosa West, Girne East, Girne West, Guzelyurt, Lefke, Famagusta East, Famagusta West, Tatlisu........................... These boroughs would have elected councillors who would run their borough as efficiently as possible. That would help alleviate the present each village Belediye/Muhtar problems and make life more bearable for the Counties citizens. I Think !!!

Aslan


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 13:58

Msg 9



If the borders were closed and the TRNC was not in the EU would I lose my freedom of movement?

Aslan


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Posts: 757

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 14:09

Msg 8



The TRNC will become a third world country as opposed to be what at this present moment in time? All this emphasis on TURK and EU money.Larnaka and Paphos airport, next you will be telling me you drive to Charles DeGaulle airport because flights are cheaper, use the state carrier and airport and you to can make a difference. You are trying to say that the governments of the TRNC and Turkey are as incompetent as Mugabe and his regime, sorry I don't think so, property and produce prices your trying to say that a property in the Isle of White has plummeted because it;s not connected to the mainland? A lot and I mean a lot more tourists came here prior to the borders being opened especially from Germany I think they understood that quality and not quantity was the name of the game.

newlad



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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 14:13

Anyway i thought this thread was about Wan-ki-Moon,

Paul.

Aslan


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Posts: 757

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 14:18

We are the politicians here not the grey, bold and slant eyed men, they are just observers!!

MarkVPiazza


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 15:04

The TRNC's minimum wage, civil service salaries and pensions are double that of the mainland



How would a manufactuer, hotel or farm compete with a mainland company when their wages bill is twice as much - simple, they wouldn't



If the TRNC becomes part of Turkey, living standards will fall drastically - I can't see Turkeys voting for Christmas (no pun intended)

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 15:21

Msg 10

And I'm sure you're well informed about UN's role in France's act of International terrorism ref. the blowing up of The Rainbow Warrior!



Richard

PS I have done occasional work for UNESCO so have a little insight to the workings of the UN.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 15:43

I would like to see Ban Ki Moon get involved as soon as possible.





That would guarantee the failure of any talks!



I saw his 'fact finding' mission to Sri Lanka recently. His helicopter 'tour' seemed to miss out any of the refugee camps or areas of atrocities by both sides and focus on regeneration and railway rebuilding.



He wins my award for being the most useless Gen Sec of the equally toothless UN in my lifetime!



(being pedantic,... I believe he is Mr Ban,..... Ki Moon being the equivalent of our forenames.)



Rob

MarkVPiazza


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Posts: 530

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 16:07

The RoC's current game I suspect is to drag things out a little longer, Talat looses the presidential election, Eroglu gets the job, and the GCs say the talks have failed due to the hard line nationalist TC president, just like Denktas etc etc ad nauseum



And then we start the whole 35 year cycle again.....

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 16:15

MarkVP



What more could we ask for!



Please,...... anything but inclusion into the Eurozone!

MarkVPiazza


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 17:34

RobnJo



The TRNC is already losing it's young to foreign lands at an increasing rate - in 35 years time the TCs will be a small minority of pensioners in their own land.



A slow death of the TRNC would not be good for anyone IMO (except the RoC)

Aslan


Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 757

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 17:41

What really pisses me off is some of the members have been here for oh at least a week and seem to know so much about the politics and bullshit this governments and the R.O.C administrations have applied for their own self centered gratification, nothing to do with peace talks or bringing two communities together, purely a discussion on who has the biggest balls in the western world. We are lucky that the reigning big bull champion is still alive to tell the tale in his Cyprus Today article and he is lucky that his partners in crime have all but passed away and found peace, quite ironic don't you think. It's about time the newbie members to the forum and Cyprus society got off their effing high horse and researched the history of these ghost talks and measured the amount of dead semen the participants ejaculated every time they open their mouths

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 18:50

The last thing the TRNC needs is Eurozone admission.



That would guarantee a massive flood of people, especially younger people, from NC to France, Germany, UK etc.

MarkVPiazza


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Posts: 530

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 19:02

RobnJo



If born in Cyprus, they can already go to the south and get an EU passport (another very sneaky way of ethnic cleansing)



Mark

measey


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 20:25

Paul. You have a good point there Wan-kin Moon Chaps.



Keith.

greylag


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 20:50

Asian,

Dont hold back mate,

Grey.

stusimpson


Joined: 06/08/2007
Posts: 178

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 21:53

To all the idiots who wish the border closes and the TRNC left to itself.Wake up.



You have no idea of what you are saying,have no concept of whats happened to similar countries/states just the usual stupid TRNC is the best place on earth mentality.It needs investment or the place will crumble,it'll all end up like Varosha if you're not careful.



Unbelievable selfish and short sighted.



Stu

measey


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Message Posted:
14/01/2010 11:13

Stusimpson. just saw a Pig Fly by Window, up yours matey.



Keith.

measey


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Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
14/01/2010 11:35

Aslan. i dont think thats quite right you know, everyone who has a vested interest has an opion.



Keith.