Double standards on property in the South?

vincehugo


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Message Posted:
28/01/2010 15:28

I came across this article, originally from the Cyprus Mail in 2006



http://www.trncinfo.com/TANITMADAIRESI/2002/ENGLISH/ARTICALSandCOMMENTS/AC91.htm



"WE HAVE been shouting and protesting for 30 years because the Turkish Cypriots have been building on our property. But the legitimate government (of Cyprus) gave us money to build houses on the properties of the Turkish Cypriots. And at the time they lied to us, telling us that they had given us state land. This was what was written on the documents we signed."



"In the same report, a woman, who was visibly angry, said: "We were fooled. They brought us here, gave us land belonging to the Turkish Cypriots and, through a life of hard toil, we built our houses on it, married, brought up our children and now they are telling us to leave and that they will give us a plot somewhere else."



If this is true then it seems to make the posturing of the GC's over exchange land a little hypocritical, to sya the least.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
28/01/2010 15:32

I haven't seen that article before!

vincehugo


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Message Posted:
28/01/2010 15:49

I do wonder if the GC Government make an ever so subtle distinction between TC houses and TC land. As in the TC houses are all there waiting to be reinstated but return of TC-owned land may not be quite so easy!

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
28/01/2010 16:02

vincehugo

With regards to TC ownership of property/land in the South there is concrete evidence to show that land/property title deeds that were originally shown as TC ownership have been falsified to show GC ownership. The whole thing stinks and unless there is a level playing field when it comes to land/property ownership then the whole situation will continue as a total complicated mess.

AJ

vincehugo


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Message Posted:
28/01/2010 16:06

Hi AJ,



I was always a bit intrigued with articles which talk about GC refugees being given "Government Land". Maybe this is land that the GC government decided a TC wouldn't want anymore!



Is this concrete evidence you mention available/documented?



Vince

vincehugo


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Message Posted:
28/01/2010 16:15

I also discovered recently that there is a law in TRNC to prevent TC's reclaiming their land in the south once they have agreed to "exchange" it. It is viewed as fraud and the fine is up to 10 years in prison.

This would certainly resolve the concerns expressed by GC's about "double dipping" ie. selling TRNC land awarded to you on to others and then going back to reclaim your plot in the South. However it would also mean that much of the land in the South supposedly waiting to be handed back to TC's is not going to get claimed. Presumably the ownership of this land currently resides with the TRNC Government!

Like the Orams situation this is another example where the different legal systems of the North and South make legal resolution of property claims impossible. So back to the IPC and/or a political solution!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 18:06

Surely the TC will not be able to claim the land in the south given that he would have given the deeds over to the trnc government - who presumably now own the land in the south.

girne 29


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 18:17

vince message 6



Thanks for confirming what we thought but were being told otherwise by some schadenfreude merchants.

vincehugo


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 18:36

Re Msg 8.



No problem - but I should stress that it is only my understanding of the position. Yorgozlu seems to have some different views on this but I'm b***ered if I can understand what they are!

Oleander


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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 01:29

AlsancackJack - do you have any links to this 'concrete evidence'?