Turkey responsible for Greeces economic sinking

Opinion44


Joined: 07/01/2009
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 13:36

"Greece is forced to buy weapons because of the threats coming from Turkey”, the Greek MEP remarked



http://northcyprusdaily.com/news/Opinion/Turkey-responsible-for-Greeces-economic-sinking.asp

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 13:38

The biggest load of tosh i have heard this year. What makes it even more annoying is that British money will be used to help bail them out!!!!!!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 13:39

What a load of bloody crap,

Paul.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 13:40

Calm down Paul are you stressed mate??? not on the 2/10 again are you???

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 13:51

Once again, they blame anyone but themselves for their problems. There was an interview yesterday, when it was established the majority of the country dodge paying their taxes. It gave an instance of a private doctor living in the best area of Athens, in a very large house with staff. He was running 3 expensive cars but he was only down as earning the equivalent of 18,000 euros. per annum for tax purposes?? This of course is all about to change, talk about shutting the stable door when the horse has bolted. They are now expecting the rest of europe to bail them out and nothing will change. Greedy Greeks comes to mind.



The butlers wife

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 13:58

Absolute rubbish.

LOvegod


Joined: 22/03/2009
Posts: 161

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 14:43

yes but at the end of the day as long as ordinary people allow themselves to be brainwashed by all the EU propaganda and continue to vote for the 3 main parties nothing will change. Just hope Turkey stays out and continues on the path of being a good emerging market and doesnt cede their sovereignity to the EU fascists.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 14:45

Sorry Tange i turn into Richard the Lion heart on twoters,

Paul.

billyboy1


Joined: 01/06/2009
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 14:49

What can I say



Twats



blame any one but themselves, so lets picks on the turks again



total idiots

Opinion44


Joined: 07/01/2009
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 15:42

same issue on The Greek forums

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus28570.html

TopTen


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 1246

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 15:51

The bright spot is that the EU looks to be in meltdown, it will not be long the frogs, have already stated they are not prepared to keep paying for other countries debts

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 15:57

Greece's deficit is, at 12.7%, more than four times higher than eurozone rules allow. For years Greek spending has ballooned while tax revenue has diminished.

Its debt is about 300bn euros ($419bn; £259bn), and the government estimates it will need to borrow about 53bn euros this year to cover budget shortfalls.

Debt servicing is now costing Greece 11.6% of its gross domestic product and it has to pay more interest on loans now because its credit rating has been downgraded.



Any EU budget support for Greece is likely to come with stringent conditions, to ensure that Athens fulfils its austerity plans and to reassure European voters that their taxes will not be diverted to propping up Greece.

Opinion44


Joined: 07/01/2009
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 17:11

It seems that there is no way other then helping Greeks, other wise The EU will loose ground. Since they are living in The EU Territories, they should be saved! I have read some articles written by outstanding economists, all of them indicate that what we are seeing now is just the small point on the top of the ice-berg.

Without serious aid, The Greek Government goes bankrupt in 1-3 years.. Unfortunately this will cause an other global economic crises.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 17:18

The pensions of Greek civil servants is 97% of their normal working salary. It is worse than TRNC

ismet

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 17:32

' The pensions of Greek civil servants is 97% of their normal working salary. It is worse than TRNC '



Or better depending on which side you are on.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 17:44

It isn't the cost of the weapons that's costing Greece the money, it's the cost of hiring real men to use them.



Tony

winslow


Joined: 09/04/2009
Posts: 332

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 17:55

To throw the responsibilty of their own failings off on outside influences is a standard political poly. Demonise your enemy in the eyes of your public (demonisation) throwing the heat of themselves... and boy do some of their politican love to demonise Turkey..... Even in this instance when they have not only cooked the books. Greece has set fire to the kitchen... and forgot to dail 999....the kitchen cupboard is bare...no one is gonna swallow that old chestnut ...the blame game won't work ...he is pulling his own plonker...what a muppet...

Winslow.

professoregit


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 381

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 18:11

Made me laugh out loud. However, this is the sinister route when a country is in crisis. Blame someone

where the mud might stick to get the public's mind off the real route of the problem and necessary painful remedial actions, in an attempt to avoid the inevitable civil unrest. Remember Hitler.

Marvo


Joined: 30/04/2007
Posts: 194

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 19:15

Corruption within the EU is almost a prerequisite of joining. I read an article recently that Greek olive farmers now receive grants and payments for olive farming based on the acreage of trees grown. Being the good EU members they are, they have applied for and been given the appropriate grants.

According to official EU figures Greek olive farmers have now been paid grants for olive groves with a total area larger than Canada.

When no one within the EU is accountable to any electorate, and no basic checks are carried out at any level, the EU civil servants can dole out money and be completely unaccountable for it. They are so engrossed in expanding the Euro zone almost anyone can get in (except Turkey). So hell mend them if the are now faced with bailing out the countries that cannot support themselves.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 20:11

A lazy militant workforce who think the bloody world owes them a living, but hey, they'll make hay while the sun shines, coz for sure when the clouds gather us mugs in the EU will come and bail them out. Meantime, Stavros sits draped in his general strike banner, sipping his Ouzo with his favourite ciggies down at the local 'no smoking' Taverna. Life's great if you're Greek.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 20:27

if the enosis had happened ,who would you be blaming now msg1

Joe Soap


Joined: 17/10/2008
Posts: 170

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 23:45

I think we should sympathise with the Greeks................ they got found out.



Should we have a whip round for the Greeks?



Who's going to be first with the whip.