Sweetwaterbay 12 - In search of the Holy Grail

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
17/02/2010 23:23

Okay, we might not have Indiana Jones, but we have got Rocky, Zhivago and our United Nations goodwill ambassador Andy F.

At least I got in first this time

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
17/02/2010 23:32

long live rms, got that in first as well.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/02/2010 23:44

arfur i didnt see you had started a new thread and ive done one also oops ! well sod it lets use this one as you started it first .



regards andy fairhurst ( un good and badwill ambassador to sweetwaterbay )

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
18/02/2010 00:51

Any Sweetwaterbay owners visit

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroup.php%3Fv%3Dapp_2373072738%26gid%3D171740192588%23!%2Fgroup.php%3Fv%3Dwall%26ref%3Dmf%26gid%3D6741911401&h=090b0e637377d8fc971dc243fcf84a05



The Sweetwaterbay friends facebook group and introduce yourselves. meet your neighbours, ask questions, start new or join in the discussions. Post photos or videos or just generally keep in touch with other owners. Uodate us all when you return from a visit or if you are lucky enough to be onsite then please keep us up to date with life at The Bay.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
18/02/2010 10:30

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/9981.



this thread is why andyf needs to get his negotiating head on otherwise if you dont work together it will happen to your site - perhaps now you see my intentions to encourage you to join committees etc so that your views can be considered - trust me try to work together you dont want to end up like these poor people on ST Marinag !!

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
19/02/2010 10:38

Well said Sweep. We all want the best for SWB but they way some are going about it is just making things downright unpleasent. It is well known about the non payment of fees (I was told by the couple when I met them the exact reason so I am not passing judegment on hearsay) and why but that doesnt make it right that the rest of us should carry anyone not paying and they certainly should not be representing fee paying owners.



We all own we should all have a say together.



Of to the hospice now where people really do have problems.

Sheila

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
20/02/2010 10:37

message 30 on the property management thread gives details of MEPS are they connected to the swb builders if so there are telphone numbers etc. There is also one criticism of Vistamar but no criticism of RMS. So North Cyprus is happy with RMS then..well thats how I read it..

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
20/02/2010 13:04

rocky MEPS are the company appointed to look after the gardens , dont think they are anything to do with the builder EMEK.

re RMS when and if we start to get problems with them then thats the time to start moaning and groaning and look at an alternative management company , but thats not happening and its to early so we should all support mike and his team.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
20/02/2010 13:14

As far as I am aware SWB employed MEPS so RMS has inherited them and has to continue to use them until such time as he can get the contract changed or cancelled. So he also has to put their charges in the budget for 2010. Obviously when meps are not being used anymore then there will be a figure which can be looked at for either a sinking fund for emergencies or for more amenities that the site would like etc etc .

lobylud


Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
20/02/2010 13:23

What's the latest confirmed plans for the beach area ?



What state is it in at the moment ?

dobbo



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
21/02/2010 12:43

I am writing to enquire if anybody knows who owned the land at SWB pre 1974 and if not would it no be worth while finding out. To my calculations SWB is built on about 10 donums of land, as there are at least 100 owners on the site and if we were willing to pay between 5 to 15 K each depending on the size of your plot, to the former owner for his GC title deeds. That would be a total of 1,million pounds cash with no lawyers, court cases etc to the former owner and maybe SWB could throw in a villa. Thats 100K per donum!

We would offset the cost by having undisputed title deeds, which would increase the value of our properties when ever we decided to sell.

We could get a solicitor to investigate through RMS, just a thought any way, what does every one think.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
21/02/2010 13:35

a starter would be e-mail keith and moira hunt , they had the "so-called" owner in there villa for a glass of wine . this greek geezer and his wife turned up at site claiming he was the diposed owner. you can read all the posts on it if you go and find the " sweetwaterbay built on greek land " thread.



i would have thought sweetwaterbay would have a vested interest in this as they have sixty unsold units and are offering pay maintence on them while unsold.

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
21/02/2010 14:02

Dobbo,



We have had confirmation from our solicitor that it was Greek-owned pre-74. Personally, I think it's a little early to worry about this (the TRNC government are still working on a solution) and Andy, SWB should definitely have a vested interest in this - that's who we bought off!



The problem with saying about each of us paying in so much (especially on a public forum) is that this may sow the seed with the owner or any Greek Cypriot that sees it!



Perhaps this sort of stuff needs to be kept to Facebook.



Marisa

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
01/03/2010 20:45

been very bad floods and im told some damage at sweetwaterbay , our place is fine but does anyone know what or where is the damage?



andy

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
01/03/2010 21:31

As long as your place is fine it doesnt matter then does it !

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
01/03/2010 21:31

Ours apparently has had some water ingress, but not given details. I guess you've got off as scott free as Nemanja Vidic !!

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
01/03/2010 22:45

ooohh , now now arfur best team won and you know it.



turtle bay village as been hit bad , some appatments are knackered im told. apparently no storm drains were installed ?



andy

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
01/03/2010 22:58

Hi Andy/f Tel me were you get your dud information from. I have friends who live on turtle bay village . Yes they have had floods like everyone else in NC but I dont know of any apartments being knackered as you so politely put it . As for the storm drains were do you get your stupid info from .

A disgruntled Loui.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
01/03/2010 23:20

loui im only stating what two owners who are friends of ours have said .



and before you ask NO I AM NOT NAMING THEM !



if its incorrect i will speak to them , they say its not " classified information "

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
01/03/2010 23:32

sweet water bay village as been hit bad , some appatments are knackered im told. apparently no storm drains were installed ?

im only stating what two owners who are friends of ours have said .if its incorrect i will speak to them , they say its not " classified information " Hows that you scaremonger. Im alright Jack/Andyf

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
01/03/2010 23:36

Message deleted due to inappropriate language.

AJ

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 00:42

Andyf i will see you at SWB next time you are over . maybe you can repeat to my face what you have posted. please be my guest and get one of them to post ( I thought it was a secret ) empty head.

zhivago


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 00:51

Andy F pleeze do not west time lissning to mans threts he wood run mile if ne new of your Kararte black bolt

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 10:19

Andy- did you get a red or yellow card, or did AJ do a Phil Dowd on you?



Yes, you're right, best team won [but might have been different down to 10 men]. Was also a very entertaining game. Even Ferguson said "we got lucky there".



The re-emergence of Zhivago suggests that Rocky has found a bottle of Wincarnis that Mrs Rocky must have tried to hide!

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 17:50

arfur seems it was a yellow lol

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 17:51

Z , have u ssen any crocks ?

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 18:52

Should have been a red .

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 21:08

lou go and swing on ya quattro band l.n.b ( if you know what one is )



here is a clue . special unit on feed end of dish arm .



collects and distributes Hh , Hl , Vh and Vl



V/500 cable down lead into launch amp and sloped off into multiswich then sent of in diplexed uhf and if component signals to network ends .



to much is it for a bog standard " sky fitter"

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 21:35

OK

This thread is going nowhere.

If this thread is not back on topic within 2 postings then it will be closed.

AJ

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 21:51

AJ is right. Does anyone have positive [rather than hearsay] news about water damage to properties. Also, any news about the final road surface, and progress on snagging?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 21:59

does anyone know why we havent had our invoice for two years maintenance and this after three maybee four phone calls to mike armstrong, was told we would get it sometime in febuary is anyone else in phase three still waiting to pay ?



i dont want to start having fingers pointed at us ( we are on free water and it seems free maintenance )



andy

zhivago


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 23:32

Adny praps you dont pay thiz iz prize for naming bar..SWB and RMS muzt sort water meter mess and reduze maintencae for thoze with de ,meters for water or its dubble charging..at leest you onest Adny

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 23:42

thankyou Z , ill buy you an efes when i see you end of may





andy

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
02/03/2010 23:52

re message 30 I guess its unwise to post individual damage to properties I would be interested to know how much of the path to the beach actually remains and if there is any damage to the pool and public areas. The path to the beach carved from soft terrain in many cases looked as if it would not stand up to normal storms yet alone the recent downpours.Hopefully individual properties will be covered by the insurance arranged by RMS although to date I have seen nothing in wriitng in respect of the cover offered by this group??? policy has anyone else?. Welcome back Z I guessed your disappearance was for the insurance. Did you buy a property in Panama I understand thats what mssing people do?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 00:04

well said rocky , im so glad Z is back . cant wait to have a northern soul dance session ( in clogs) at the bay inn





andy

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 10:21

Posts: 692



Message Posted:

02/03/2010 21:59

Reply Message 31 of 35 in Discussion



does anyone know why we havent had our invoice for two years maintenance and this after three maybee four phone calls to mike armstrong, was told we would get it sometime in febuary is anyone else in phase three still waiting to pay ?







i dont want to start having fingers pointed at us ( we are on free water and it seems free maintenance )



Why dont you just pay up ! Its people like the above that destroys Management companys and community spirit.

Question why should you none payers enjoy the fruits and labours of all the peeps who Do ! Parasites and scroungers comes to mind.

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 12:36

I wouldn't call Andy-f a 'parasite and strounger' - because he is honest to admit that he hasn't paid, despite his regular requests to our management company for them to provide invoices so that he can pay HOWEVER - they are a number of people on our development who refuse to pay management charges (for some reason or other) yet still enjoy the facilities, along with their guests. We have been asking the management company for those parasites and scroungers to be named and shamed. Those people, and you know who you are because you view this forum on a daily basis, you really do destroy the community spirit.



ps. It's not Andy-f's fault either that a water meter has not been installed at his property.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 15:57

I agree Jackie ...wots this loulouis got to do with SWB anyway? perhaps he/she or it should declare who they are and why SWB is of any interest. Andy is completely honest by decalring on theis forum he has not paid maintenance and has no water meter. I guess like most people on completion he has paid the bond which is 12 months in advance anyway.Some people have posted on facebook thread that SWB will sort out the overpayment by those of us with water meters they must live in cloud cuckoo land and I assume that they are enjoying getting water paid for by others. The sooner the site is adopted or approved then all of us will get cheaper water but without meters I cannot see that the site will be passed approved or adopted whatever the term may be.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 17:18

To all at SWB, your thread is both helpfull and mainly factual which helps to share information and give help and advice where you can. The reason i write is i have met and spoken to Andy F on a couple of occasions a top bloke who talks a lot of sense who has bought a property on the site to enjoy the fruits of his labour with his family.

What annoys me is someone like this "loulouis" hides behind a computer spouting their poison through offensive messages that spoils the thread.



Andy Tossers like them aren't worth bothering with, every dog has its day water off a carps back mate enjoy the sun........... and the FISHING!!!

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 18:44

Andy- [assuming he ain't telling porkies], "loulouis" is a sky tv engineer from Lancashire. Perhaps you may know who he is- the point is does he own on SWB [I suspect not], and if not, is he helping to inform by going on the SWB threads, or is he just trying to wind people up. I think we can all make our own minds on this one. BPF- don't keep praising Andy, he's bad enough every time Man U win, or he's had a successful day dangling his worm in some stream!

Zhivago, glad to see your reappearance by kind courtesy of Majestic Wine Warehouse!

Let's try and keep this thread positive; right or expose any wrongs, but don't criticise those who own up to not paying, and not being able to pay because they haven't been given a bill for it, or had a water meter fitted. That is down to the developer and management company to resolve- it doesn't need "helpful" comments from third parties.

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 19:50

I have had a policy document for the insurance because we have now received a statement of what we owe RMS and the insurance was on there so I asked to see the insurance policy. It was emailed to me a couple of days ago but was surprised to see it only covered £25K worth of building and £10K of contents! I have raised the issue with RMS because surely we need it to cover what we paid for it - not just £25K.



AndyF - I can't believe you still haven't had your bill for maintenance - you took your place over at the same time as us and we had our bill at New Year. Favouritism - that's what it is?! By the way, who's your mate? Nice chap isn't he? (not!)



Marisa

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 21:40

MM in this country the insurance is usaully for total loss clearing the site and rebuilding...if you own a villa of course you still own the plot (????) I am sure that the rebuild cost is a lot less than what we paid..however I also beleive it unlikely that £25K would cover the cost of demolition the site clearance and the rebuild so I will need to check with RMS exactly what my cover is on my villa. Arthur how do you know where Andy has been dangling his worm did Mrs J T know where JT had been dangling his?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 22:00

thankyou all for your kind words . strange after i posted on here that we had not had our invoice for maintenance and that i had asked on a number of ocasions to be sent it so we could pay and today i got e-mail from connie saying we have been billed from 1st feb but they have still not sent it to us . says some got lost or something , anyway at least they have made contact.



andy

zhivago


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 22:59

Who is diss Robert Ponting from Lancashire ho inzult my frend Adny under name of Luiluis good reserch Arthur you foned he sky engineere

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
03/03/2010 23:26

sky engineer most definately, thick as pig shit .



re mess 28 , no response . complex signaling systems mmmmmmmm



he may know how to fit an F connector to ct100 cable , then again he most likely dont !

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 10:05

Andy, as your mate, can I suggest it's time to be a bit more selective in your language, before you get another yellow card. Would hate to see you sent off for retaliation.

Has John Terry got an F connector- it appears he has.

So at last there seems to be some movement regarding billings going out. I believe it's over a week since I posed the question regarding the progress on fitting water meters and the "adoption" of the site so that the water charge reduces, but had no response. I will take this up next time I'm out if I haven't had a reply.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 17:16

arthur we need to find out why everything we ask about is never answered, it gets on my wick that you can send a e-mail with important questions and never even get a reply .



andy

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 22:42

A ndy f

mesage 47, Perhaps it is because you are a nause and a pain in the arse!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who needs water you are right by the sea.

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 22:55

To whom it may concern ,yes I am a sky engineer not a fitter (city and guilds in electronics) . I own some apartments on a complex not far from swb. I witnessed first hand what damage spongers, sorry non payers, can do at a site . we now have a new MC whom i hope can pick up the pieces and make our investments safe. All sorts of excuses were used by none payers including we havent had a bill yet : We havent got a meter , why didnt they pay something on account .ie pay some money into the MC office obtain a receipt and stop sponging or you just might cause irreparable damage .

loui

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 23:21

waw city and guilds in electronics ( i had one of those when i was seventeen )



what about RDI/CAI signal systems level 1.2.3.4 and 5



quasi errors and bit error rates are the name of the game now , not i=v over r



by the way i paid six months fees to the management company when i paid our final invoice on hand over of the appartment

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 23:29

hi big steve how u doing ? when are we having chuck ?



inlaws are back in there caravan in sunny blackpool now spring as sprung , we may go for a weekend when it gets a bit warmer . if so ill be taking my gear .



are you over half term end of may ?



andy

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 23:33

Andy f

Fished a place called Whitmore today had 60lb carp/barbel on method feeder and red mags. If you come to Blackpool let me know i will take you fishing and give you a lesson on how to catch.

Was due to go in May couldn't get the leave, just booked 6th -23rd August

steve.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 23:37

Louise message 49,

"To whom it may concern" No it dont concern me same as the issues on SWB dont concern you!!!!

I understand what non-payment can do for the status quo of a site, the same as posting abusive nasty posts can do for your health!!!!!

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 23:42

ok steve ill be in touch .

by the way ill be in north cyprus for the first week of your holls so a rematch is on the cards !



andy

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 23:43

Game on my lancastrian friend, sweetcorn and effes cant wait still 2-0 is it not?????????????

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 23:47

yes its still 2-0 but i hold " biggest carp caught at arapkoy " title , ive had the pic framed at home to prove it





andy

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 23:51

andy , steve



i will be over for three weeks in aug wouldnt mind going carpin as well.



just booked a top venue in france for a week lake exclusive with cottage all gear for a gang of us (sweetchestnut lakes) £1000 all in, looks good on site run by an english ,man

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/03/2010 23:56

ok lee no probs , sorry it didnt happen last time but we were moving in and it was mad . what date do you get to SWB?



andy

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
05/03/2010

Hey Tangerine man mes 53 the same as posting abusive nasty posts can do for your health!!!!! When have i posted a nasty abusive post. ?. The only abusive one is your friend AF who for some reason gets away with swearing on this board . I have met your abusive friend in a bar in the TRNC watching a football match. he was told on numerous occasions to kerb his language in front of young children and woman he was very lucky then that he wasnt jap slapped. so maybe he is the uncouf one . I speak the truth as i see it . and as for my health i am very well thankyou.

Loui

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
05/03/2010 00:03

yo andy



first three weeks aug see u there mate, thanks god the ice has gone woke up last week and the lake had froze over with all our gear still in it and couple of inches of snow below my feet, bloody frezzin!!!!!



we could night fish it would be interseresting to see if it comes alive after dark as surley it must be to hot to feed during the day?

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
05/03/2010 00:17

Louise

"When have i posted a nasty abusive post?" try message 18,22,+36 Chill out as some of your posts make you sound a right Tw*t anyway back on to the sweetwater bay thread sorry chaps.............

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
05/03/2010 00:19

Sweep

The only thing that comes alive their at dusk are the mozzies and snakes, i will take my chance at first light...........

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
05/03/2010 11:56

Andy, Sweep & BPF- I take it from your posts that you go fishing in all weather [night & day]. Must get very cold, sounds like a good excuse to wear "ladies undergarments" to keep warm.............at least I guess that's what you tell the Magistrates!!!

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
05/03/2010 17:00

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread went off topic.