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Jeffery
Joined: 31/05/2009 Posts: 52
Message Posted: 25/02/2010 22:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 26 in Discussion |
| Long Term Lease & Clean Registered company for sale Nice & Big Size Bar.........Running Condition Great Locationin and big area in Alsancak... very good for english style Bar/Pub in the town. Please Contact Only Very serious Business People. Very Good oppertunity. (Get Ready Before Summer Starts) Please Contact 5:00pm to 9:00pm 0542 875 60 30 |
Lilli
Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 25/02/2010 22:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 26 in Discussion |
| oh jeffery not you as well, its all so sad now. there will be no where to go. its just so sad we have to rely on tourists and villa/ flat owners and not the community of ex pats and locals |
Jeffery
Joined: 31/05/2009 Posts: 52
Message Posted: 25/02/2010 22:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 26 in Discussion |
| Hi Lilli. Got another idea for u. Can u call me tomorrow please |
Whistler
Joined: 28/07/2008 Posts: 1332
Message Posted: 25/02/2010 23:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 26 in Discussion |
| Liz. I think the ex-pats and locals are all hibernating because of the dark, cold nights. Think you will find once the weather clears up things will change. |
Lilli
Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 25/02/2010 23:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 26 in Discussion |
| jeffery email me your number guidoandliz@yahoo.co uk. speak to you tomorriw xxxxxxxxxxxxxx |
professoregit
Joined: 30/08/2008 Posts: 381
Message Posted: 26/02/2010 06:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 26 in Discussion |
| It is clear that Restaurant/Bar businesses are going through a very difficult winter period. The worse I have seen in 4 years. You would think that the letting Landlords would assist businesses with reductions during this period, say until May. But hey, this is Cyprus, not much forsite when it comes to business. They would rather have no income than let their outlets at a temporarily reduced fee. |
RoxyBob
Joined: 13/07/2009 Posts: 205
Message Posted: 26/02/2010 06:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 26 in Discussion |
| It's obvious why the restaurants and bars are not doing too well, there are too many of them. |
TopTen
Joined: 15/04/2009 Posts: 1246
Message Posted: 26/02/2010 08:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 26 in Discussion |
| People cannot afford to dine out every evening, also there is not a lot of difference in menu,s so when you do dine out you choose the place that you like the most. Also it tends to be a catch 22 situation, restaurants that are not as popular as say "Effendi" have to try and compete by price reduction, if their rent and overheads allow. And landlords need educating to the fact that if they keep increasing rents they will be left with empty premises with no income because their tenants need to keep their prices competetive.Also try to be different with food offered because all restaurants have basically the same fare.Also I would try and negotiate with the landlord a period in the winter when we could close down, paying a peppercorn rent then reopening in say the end of March. |
scoobydoo
Joined: 10/11/2008 Posts: 2434
Message Posted: 26/02/2010 09:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 26 in Discussion |
| Msg 6: It's not just Cyprus when it comes around to business sense and with what you refer to about reducing the rents to help clients out for a few months .... it happens in UK far too much. My old high street is littered with charity shops! |
Teresa
Joined: 21/11/2007 Posts: 1018
Message Posted: 26/02/2010 09:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 26 in Discussion |
| January to March is always the worst months for any business here and the UK, asking the landlord to reduce the rent is ok but will the tax man believe the landord when he says he is getting no rent i dont think so. |
Tenakoutou
Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 26/02/2010 09:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 26 in Discussion |
| Excessive overcharging and the 'smoking ban', iniquitious TRNC tax regime and rental on premises, plus the reduction of tourists and low rate for the £ all combine to ensure that there is becoming a massive reduction in the number of bars, pubs and restaurants. Add to the above the fact that there is precious little variety in the fare offered, it doesn't leave much incentive for folks to dine out. I'm afraid that's it 'in a nutshell'. |
professoregit
Joined: 30/08/2008 Posts: 381
Message Posted: 26/02/2010 09:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 26 in Discussion |
| Msg 9, This isn't the UK. It is Cyprus. As such I doubt very much that you will ever see an explosion of charity shops here my friend. |
Lambousa Gordon
Joined: 03/11/2007 Posts: 1992
Message Posted: 26/02/2010 09:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 26 in Discussion |
| Msg 11 - by overcharging I take it you mean the enormous increases in taxes, import duties and municipality charges that have led, for instance, to provisioning and electricity costs tripling in the last three years. Add also the spoiling effect of persons previously unacquainted with the hospitality trade opening a bar or restaurant with completely unrealistic expectatıons as to cost:price ratios. Far too much has been said lately about rents - which are actually very low compared to other countries. If a landlord can not expect to recoup at least GBP500 per month on a premises then it is better not to let it at all rather than let it get run down by a tenant. |
Jeffery
Joined: 31/05/2009 Posts: 52
Message Posted: 26/02/2010 16:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 26 in Discussion |
| Wish Good Luck for all Business people |
scoobydoo
Joined: 10/11/2008 Posts: 2434
Message Posted: 28/02/2010 07:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 26 in Discussion |
| Msg 12, I guess I didn't explain myself very well, the fingers working faster than the brain; I wasn't suggesting that there would be an explosion of charity shops in TRNC I was just saying that in UK the landlords do not reduce their rents either just as here which is crazy so in UK they end up letting charity organisations having them for free when they could just as easy make money by reducing the rents and helping both themselves and the tenants. With all the empty shops over here, surely it would make sense to reduce the rents and get them occupied and have some income. What is that old saying "better to have 50% of something rather than 100% of nothing" |
vadiev
Joined: 29/08/2009 Posts: 204
Message Posted: 28/02/2010 20:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 26 in Discussion |
| Jeff, This is a disaster, no more brilliant curries !!! Can you not get together with few more restaurant owners and just all operate out of the same place then the customers could come to the restaurant any night and choose from a wide choice of different menus ??? love from us two xxx |
Texas
Joined: 22/09/2009 Posts: 634
Message Posted: 28/02/2010 22:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 26 in Discussion |
| Jeff Turn it into something Asian. I know Indian is Asian, but I was thinking more along the lines of a Chinese/Thai/Vietnamese. You might have to chuck more than a piece of lemon grass to a Chicken Karahi, but it's a thought. Or, try a chinese night, once a week. Indian restaurants here do fish & chips, steak & chips, why not Chinese? The nearest competition you would have would be near the Jasmine Court, as opposed to a few hundred metres. I've been told you do a mean sweet & sour! Good luck. See you Thursday. |
fishh
Joined: 17/04/2009 Posts: 147
Message Posted: 01/03/2010 12:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 26 in Discussion |
| Lıllı you say rely on tourıst and vılla owners. If you were lıvıng ın uk would you go out every nıght or weekly to eat out most locals englısh-turkısh they are lıvıng not on holıday people are watchıng funds and may prefer homecookıng... |
Lilli
Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 01/03/2010 12:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 26 in Discussion |
| hi fishh i totally agree with what you say, once in rome do as they do. Whereby the tourists do go out every night. Hopefully oonce the weather changes we will all get the feelgood factor once more xxx |
JohhnyLee
Joined: 25/04/2009 Posts: 2495
Message Posted: 01/03/2010 13:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 26 in Discussion |
| I said it before, many months ago there should be a restriction on the amount of Restaurants, A bit like applying for change of use on a property. Look when The other indian restaurant opened next door to Punjab.How ridiculous . Jeff at Taj Mahal is a first rate guy, but why he ever expanded is beyond me. The formula we used in the UK was to basically count chimmney pots.(ie population). Problem here is a big percentage of the chimmney pots arn't lived in , and lots of the ones that are, we just don't have the income to eat out reguarly. Please remember the economy is tough in a great many places, I do not mean to be rude, but why do people keep opening Bars and Restaurants when they can look around and see other perfectly good ones struggling and closing. Any one who is thinking of throwing money into a bar or Restaurant here, think long and hard Being smaller and having lower over heads, that,s a better bet at the moment. |
Jeffery
Joined: 31/05/2009 Posts: 52
Message Posted: 01/03/2010 15:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 26 in Discussion |
| Hi All. I am not thinking to close my restaurant. and i would never ever do that. I I have found a great place thats why planed to move there, but i found that was not a good idea, and also On Special Demand of my Food Lover's & friends, Now i gaveup to sell this place, But i will also open another place soon. I am not moving anywhere, Taj Mahal not moving anywhere, Thanks to all for there Advices, Comments, and appriciating me. Best Regards to all xxxxxxxx Jeff Tajmahal |
Lilli
Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 01/03/2010 15:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 26 in Discussion |
| im very pleased to hear this news Jeffery. i did try to call and left 2 messages lilli xx |
Kibris
Joined: 07/11/2007 Posts: 372
Message Posted: 01/03/2010 15:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 26 in Discussion |
| Me too Lillie me too Long live the Taj Mahall!! |
vadiev
Joined: 29/08/2009 Posts: 204
Message Posted: 01/03/2010 17:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 26 in Discussion |
| There is a God and he cooks at the Taj Mahal !!!!! |
joandjelly
Joined: 24/02/2008 Posts: 2953
Message Posted: 01/03/2010 17:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 26 in Discussion |
| Excellent news Jeff, for us you are and always have been the best Indian restaurant in the West. Good luck to you and Emine for the coming season. |
Taj-Mahal
Joined: 01/02/2010 Posts: 109
Message Posted: 02/03/2010 14:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 26 in Discussion |
| Thank you very much to all for appriciating Taj Mahal. very best regards Taj Mahal |
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