Pool Pump - Taken without owner's permission

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 16:39

Assuming due to recent bad weather and someone's pump has been submerged a pool pump has been taken without permission. Unfortunately the police are not that interested at the moment as I am not the owner and there was no sign of a break in due to the fact the locks on pump rooms if they work can easily be overridden. The pool company who say they are not alone and believe it is someone in the trade as it is removed very cleanly. In everyone's book it seems far easier to just buy a new one, too much hassle

Has anyone else been informed their pump has been taken? My personal feelings if there are, the police should be informed by all and if it is someone in the trade talk to them all.



Hopefully the one who felt he had a greater need for this pump will return it

My advice Get those pump rooms nailed down to prevent this misery happening to YOU!!!

batgirl


Joined: 04/02/2009
Posts: 676

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 17:28

Location please?

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 17:58

I can not see where it was when it went missing is relevant as pools and pumps are left unattended everywhere but it was in Catalkoy.

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 18:29

Who does the pool maintainance?I know Poolland have a habit of removing the motor if they haven't been paid for a while and put it back when the bill has been settled.

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 19:36

As stated in my first message i have spoken to the police and pool company. Advised the following

The police

There was no sign of forcible entry -

The aluminium cover can be easily broken in to without a key

No lock on the outside gates



The Pool Company

The lock does not work but easily can be overridden

They only go once a week through out winter so how can they keep an eye on it

Its a person who is in the trade as all the connections are turned off etc

The police are not interested unless there is evidence of theft

matula


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 647

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 19:57

Par for the course around where we live in Lapta. Domestic water pumps are vulnerable also.

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 22:22

Must of now moved east

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 08:08

Gooligan



Re; Poolland.



I cannot comment on whether your statement above is true or not. Even if it is, I would do the same if someone owed me money. (The difference is, I would charge extra for removing/re-fitting!).



What I would like to say from personal experience is that they are by far the most honest, ethical, fair-priced company I have dealt with regarding pool repairs.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 08:49

Texas, your experience is not mine.

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 09:38

Groucho, true enough.



It can also be said that I can "sail". My experience, not yours LOL.

FIVETINS



Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 10:08

Sounds like the work of an illegal worker who is of the Traveler community from Northampton and entered the country with his now ex-girlfriend whom he used as a way to get here via her Villa in the South first, 6 to 7 years ago. She found out he was cheating on her with a German woman here. Looks like he's expanding. The permits office have been told of this (two years ago). They were given footage on DVD and all his details and said they would look intoi it. They obviously haven't. Look out for KRE 492 a Blue Ford Explorer. Calls himself David and is working from the new estate near Kibris Evleri at Catalkoy where he is supposed to be "on Holiday every 3 months from the South". Works for "cash" only of course. Has no assets or permit and smooth talks his way into English communities. He has white hair and is around 50. 5' 9" and medium to heavy build. Avoid like the plague!

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 12:55

Do you think this person has taken my friend's pump??????

I was under the impression when i spoke to the pool company she was not alone with the disappearance of the pump but as nobody has said theirs has been taken it sounds like it was a one off incident and then i do agree with the police - what chance - no chance

mamachina


Joined: 22/11/2008
Posts: 730

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 13:45

Someone came in and took all our pool grids, and a few from next door, obviously "his" pool was bigger than ours and needed a few extra!! Have now got lock on gate and pool room, but not replaced grids (yet)!! I agree, pool rooms are easy to break in to, I expect that will be next......

FIVETINS



Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 15:43

Well, snd1966

It wouldn't surprise me in the least, he has been ripping the owner of 6 Villas off, pretending to do work and charging for it for three years. There's a simple test with this person. Get him to read something, anything, or write something, its the acid test. Better still let the Police know of his presence in the area, the more the better. Oh I nearly forgot to mention. The owner of the 6 villas has 6 pools he is looking after up there. Plus another 1 I know of. A lot of pools to maintain especially after the deluge of rain.

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 18:36

Its the heart break of the owner i feel sorry for - pool grids i know they are not cheap and after a few years they do crack - Do you think icould 'borrow' your pump!

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 18:38

Five tins one would need proof and i feel you are being a little naughty unless you have it - My question from the start is has anyone had theirs taken - Has this person taken your pump or anything from your pool or from any of your friends

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
13/03/2010 00:11

Steve, (Texas)



Poolland were meant to be looking after my neigbour's pool... they cocked up the watermaid leaving it flooding and did a runner.... Literally, they jumped in their van and drove of at speed hoping no one would see that the damage was done by them. Whole pump room flooded, watermaid ruined... £600 worth of damage.



As luck would have it my friends had not yet paid them and told them where to stick their bill. Poolland walked away with their tails between their legs!



" the most honest, ethical, fair-priced company" I don't think so...

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
13/03/2010 07:38

Always stated Companies are only as good as their workers, and unfortunately it is very rare here and other places for people to accept responsibility. Other places you may have laws to help you to make them accept responsibility. Its human nature to defend oneself

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
13/03/2010 07:50

Sally



You are right, it seems it is particularly human nature to Cypriots to blame anyone but themselves - we've come to notice this even with teachers, who often will try to lay blame at their student's door for their own short comings.



Everything is always someone else's fault. Not all Cypriots are like this but it is a noticeable trait amongst many.

gazmufc78


Joined: 03/09/2009
Posts: 366

Message Posted:
13/03/2010 10:01

Groucho, I have a spare watermaid control unit if your neighbour needs one.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
13/03/2010 10:16

Cassie



We would be very grateful please mail eileen.croucher@gmail.com with more info.

FIVETINS



Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
13/03/2010 10:54

No I don't think its naughty really. snd1966, you will make your own choices. However, If you were to let the Police do the detective work and question this man, he could be eliminated from any suspicion and we could ensure he hasn't done anything wrong and is complying with the laws of living and working here legitimately. As I live quite close to where he is "using" a Villa then I am aware of his movements and what is going on daily. He has motive, he has 6 pools which incidentally were taken from a Turkish Cypriot pool cleaner because the owner of the Villas was duped into thinking this man would be cheaper and do a better job (he hasn't a clue) and include site work and free accommodation. Now because he wants more money he is leaving his patch to go for more elsewhere and no doubt checking areas for things he might also want. As to whether I have had anything stolen, it is not customary to steal close to where you live from the M.O. of most criminal activities.

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
13/03/2010 12:24

I very much doubt the police would be interested as it seems it is the only pump on the island to have been removed without permission during and after the bad weather. It seems just their bad luck the person chose their house. and fivetins i am sure lots of people have motive especially those who offer the all inclusive package. Your motive seems to be on a more personal basis but if you have any proof in the future i am sure the police would want to know

FIVETINS



Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
13/03/2010 13:56

I pay to live here snd1966 and hopefully so do you. Anyone here now who does not as a foreign national should be questioned by the authorities first when these things happen. The assumption that any motive is attached to the message is unfounded. You asked a question about whether I had anything stolen, I answered it to explain why I had not. Why do you feel the need to point the gun at the messenger? I have obviously wasted my time. Someone had something stolen. You are given details of a possible suspect then say there is a motive for doing it. Incredible logic. Yes to eliminate him from the inquiry. I don't usually help out in these matters as you will see by the number of posts. I hoped it would be of help. It was not. End of the matter.

"FIVETINS"

Cambs Constabulary

FIB retd.

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
14/03/2010 07:40

Fivetins yes i can see you do not post often - I am not pointing the gun at the messenger but as it seems i am the only one who knows of a pump being taken without permission and when i suggested maybe the police could ring around / go around pool companies to ask if they had had any taken it was met with disbelief therefore i can see the situation now if i went in and said on cyprus 44 it says try this man! Thanks for your interest and it has kept the post to the top but i think now after a few days they were just unlucky and it is not a regular thing like i was lead to believe. I take it you were in the police

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
14/03/2010 07:46

Steve



Re post 20



We would be very grateful please mail eileen.croucher@gmail.com with more info.

FIVETINS



Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
14/03/2010 11:03

snd1966. Yes that is correct. It would be interesting if there was a heading for stolen items. It would create a database of sorts which could be analysed by any of us when these type of incidents occur. Then it would be possible to give the "police" here something to go on. But to them "go on" probably means just that.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
14/03/2010 11:05

Octopus Pools have several 2nd hand Watermaid control boxes, as we accept them as trade-ins against Aligator pool systems.

FISHNCHIPS


Joined: 08/03/2008
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
14/03/2010 16:17

two pumps were taken from adjacent empty properties on the kofali bungalows site a couple of weeks ago.

as suggested elsewhere make sure your pump rooms are secured- LOCKED-or as in my case insurance will not cover the theft.

these are relativly high value easily removable items,and very vulnerable, if you have had a replacement lately it could have been a stolen unit, maybe even sold to you at a market price, do you actually know where it came from ??, just because its been nicked does not mean you will get it cheap !!!, if it cost nothing to begin with then the profit is greater and you may get a bit of an attractive discount, you could innocently be buying a stolen pump. we really need to have some way of marking or tracing them, any ideas?

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
14/03/2010 16:26

fishnchips - yes it makes you wonder who has heard from their pool companies to say their pumps have been submerged due to bad weather - maybe i should of put this as the header.

I hope you are all asking for the guarantee to be filled in - all new pumps come with this piece of paper

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
14/03/2010 17:36

snd1966,



We always advise our customers when they have a mishap like a submerged pump. It is up to the customer to instruct us to salvage it.

One thing to note, though - if it hasn't been submerged for too long it can usually be repaired easily. If left for a few days the damage is often greater and the repair more expensive.

We always advise our customers to have a property manager who can inspect the damage to safeguard their interests.

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
16/03/2010 13:13

Hi Vaughan, I wasn't implying you didn't - but it just got me wondering if you had the all in package do they actually improve their clients but i think as it seems to be a one off its probably the DIY man. A company would have to take far more!!!!!