I love TRNC

Notsoboredhw


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 1254

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 22:41

I love TRNC. There is too much moaning in this world! But one thing for sure is I love TRNC, I love the people so why should us Brits be moaning about a place we have invaded! If you dont like the laws, the way of life, the heat, then clear off back to the UK! And for those of you that still want a bit of England i.e. Karoake bars, footballs screens, noisy bars then I'm sorry this is definitely the wrong place to be! There you go......ive said it after a few glasses of vino!!!!!! Sorry if I have offended anyone :( . It should be kept traditional. The Turkish way and we should all support that fact.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 22:58

BHW

I agree with everything you say, but I would love to have my property finished so I can love TRNC also.

One Day......One day



PS. can't wait to bump into you if you look like that !!!!

lesleyd



Joined: 05/06/2007
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 22:59

Well said.

Notsoboredhw


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 1254

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 23:00

I dont look like that..............I am just wishing!!!!!

Notsoboredhw


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 1254

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 23:03

I hate football but arent Germany playing Turkey tonight. Perhaps this is where I start watching football after all!....only for Turkey of course! Turtle I am sorry you are having problems. I hope it all gets sorted soon.

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 06:18

At the last count there were 9000 Brit's living in the TRNC and 250000 TCs living in the UK. London is the largest (by far) TC city on Earth. Who invaded who?



You don't live in the TRNC do you Nicky?



I too hoped Turkey would win last night, but I suspect for different reasons. I do not live in Turkey, I live in the TRNC, and they were not playing.



HT

Alison


Joined: 21/05/2008
Posts: 49

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 20:40

Hi P[eeps,

Having watched the posts over the past 9mths or so on this forum and on tbv and elsewhere nicky changes like the wind, sometimes blowing hot sometimes blowing cold but nearly always blowing,

but I must agree we love North Cyprus and hope it doesnt change too much, however it is not for you nicky to decide what people should or should not do for entertainment, as i am sure many would tell you, it is really not good to be tooooo self opinionated

(it may be the wrong place to be ___ *in your opinion*)

hav a nice evening

A

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 21:35

Hi Alison,

In reference to Nicky everyone is entitled to their opinions on here.And also to change their minds when they wish.Maybe bhw had a few sherberts last night and let herself go a bit.Nothing wrong with that and no harm done.How was your head this morning bhw,

Regards,

Paul.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 02:16

BHW,



I totally agree with what you say.



It is unfortunate that the TRNC, in you words "And for those of you that still want a bit of England i.e. Karoake bars, footballs screens, noisy bars then I'm sorry this is definitely the wrong place to be!", has in places, and in others is slowly turning into, the scenario you describe. In a few years it will be unrecognisable from South Cyprus or the Spanish Costas.



Peace and quite are no longer the watch words for the TRNC.



The way of live is becoming Karoake bars, footballs screens, noisy bars and so this was the wrong place for me and my family to be.

li n lee


Joined: 09/10/2007
Posts: 144

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 02:43

We love it, just want to be back there, this is lisa after a vino, I am 39, reason I bought there was because I loved the local aspect, its unspoilt and pretty and my sister has bought in Paphos and so much trouble from her builder and busy now she regrets listening to me!!! and I met a lady at the airport, she was staying in Larnaca and said how she had heard the North was so much more pretty and unspoilt, lets keep it like that...people are very blinkered by what they here....we know different, lets keep it like that an not be invaded...lets keep the people buying who want to keep it as it is ... UNSPOILT and charming, where you can have the best of both .... xxx

ishmail


Joined: 27/06/2008
Posts: 91

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 08:23

Tim you a funny man, and you gone back 2 all that so you must like it !!

this is our countrie and if we want 2 have some fun why not, after all its you lot whot tought us and you lot are the ones who are coming in droves to keep us busy, but i see a same few saddos on these boards all the time telling us whot we shoud be doing and whot we shoud not be doing

Bored house woman, why do u think we are not going to open bars like bar11 who gives u the right to sit in jugement on whot we can an cant do it realy annoys the S*** out me that people like u just sit on your puters spoutin g this rubbish again i say its our countrie!!

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 08:44

Hi ishmail , welcome to the forum , albeit a post with angry undertones , people are only expressing their views , just like you , there's nothing wrong in your post it's just the way you have expressed it . " you lot " you cannot generilise all people the same way . we come to your country because we love it , and as you say we keep you busy which i thought would be good for your business . no one is trying to tell you what to do or what not to do , its just some people's opinions .

you try and have a nice day , simbas

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 12:26

Ishmail,



Yes I like the TRNC and maybe one day, when I've enough money to put in the bank and live off the interest, got rid of the kids and maybe the wife (only joking dear!), then we'll return to pick up where we left off. We've been the routine once and learnt a lot and second time around it will be easier.



Without guidance from others, Ishmail, the TRNC cannot stand on its own feet. A country only grows through learning. Lessons have been learnt and many more still have to be. Money has come into the island. The population has grown but no one sees anything for their tax money. There is no logical reason why the taxes it raises shouldn't be able to support it, so there must be other reasons.



Without us being here Bar 11 would never have opened in the first place. It's because we are that Reg decided to make a go of it. But due to poor regulatory laws on licensing none of the neighbours were asked about how they felt about noise pollution until 1am on a week night. He's not the only bar owner. Many have tried it on. The owners of Bars in the Alsancak area were running till 4am and 6am last year but after much publicity, all negative, they have altered their behavour.



We are not trying to change your country that much, but we are trying to keep it the beautiful, unspoilt place that it is. Do you really want your country to become the next Ayia Napa, Benidorm or Costa Del Sol? For in the end that is the way that your country is moving. So help us to help you keep as the Jewel in the Mediterranean.



The government is doing well bringing in new EU laws. Let's just bring in some of the easier ones. Health and Safety Regulations would be a good start. Maybe one day the TRNC can be seen by the outside world as a country that embraces the regulations of the rest of the world and will be brought into the fold. A country that seems to get by day-to-day will never be allowed the World Family and to join the club of World Family more regulation and laws are needed here. Of course, if you're happy with not being recognised by the rest of the world then let us know. We might as well just shut up and enjoy the sun if you don't want to help yourself, but I think you will find yourself in a minority.

koronion


Joined: 09/05/2008
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 18:13

ishmail ---you are absolutely right ---this is your country and therefore it is you who should be paving the way to an acceptable and successful culture . North Cyprus doesn't export steel or oil to supplement it's economy it takes the easy route and imports Brits . I'm sure this country/state is large enough to accomodate both Cypriots and Brits if only BOTH are prepared to compromise . By your aggressive tone ishmail I must assume you are incapable of seeing anothers point of view . Many ex pats arrived a few years ago , having chosen this lovely island for it's restful and quiet ambience ----- times have changed ---and so it seems , have some of the cypriot citizens .

Have a good day ishmail and remember , whatever your age now , (hopefully) one day you too will welcome a noiseless environment

ishmail


Joined: 27/06/2008
Posts: 91

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 07:31

You say you come to our countrie and you love it but all you do is whine on these boards do you all not realize you are all doing more damage 2 our countrie this way and you are driving people away, an its the same ones all the time moan moan, look at the fool who started this postings, says she loves TRNC then starts slagging off places THIS IS NOT RIGHT, an i dont care if shes full of alchol, to get brave to say these things shes a saddo, why cant we have football screens to watch our heros playing football in the euro2008 and other things, why cant we be noisy its not her right to say we cant enjoy this is why i am angry because some people just spout of on here and on other sites and do great damage with there stuck up opinions, an tim you just stay there we dont need you, you people need 2 wake up an see the things you are stirring up and its the same ones all the time,

simbas its all the moaning postings that makes me and others so ANGRY, shure we make mistakes shure things arent right all the time an i can see other points of view no problem but stick to the posting, she say if you want a bit of england ie karaoke bars football screens this definately the wrong place 2 be, WRONG THING 2 SAY karaoke is from japan, football is world wide, she is definately not welcome here with these thougts, specially making them public on these boards

ps , if you continue to make personal derogatory remarks about any one single person , then i will have no choice but to delete your postings , this is a forum open to all discussion , but that does'nt mean you have the right to defame them or their opinions in such an aggressive manner ----------- moderator

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 08:40

trnc is a great place to be ,enjoy the sun ,enjoy the local food, beer and people .shop locally not "south" .

dont try to change the way the culture is ,as this what attracted us in the first place .



its cyprus not uk ,i have to agree a touch with ishmail we must relax and stop whinging about builders or roads and pavements or noise or health and safety .



come on gang enjoy relax and support the trnc .



kav



yes some may get upset in what ive said ,but as we say its my opinion as well

koronion


Joined: 09/05/2008
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 12:07

Ishmail

your remarks seem to suggest that these unwelcome( your opinion) brits are intent on attacking only Turkish Cypriots ---- not true. Their criticism is levelled equally at the ex pat community who appear to have no consideration for family values i.e sleeping at a reasonable hour at night . In my earlier posting I used the term " compromise" and I'm sure the owner of the establishment in question is capable of coming to terms with his local residents who , in turn would patronise his bar ----everyone happy !!!!!

Incidentally Ishmail , I was one of those (in a bar) cheering Turkey on in their match with Spain ---- and I'll be cheering them on in their next international match .

Peace Ishmail , peace

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 12:49

ismail,



when foreigners come to live into a country they must accept the way of life of the locals but .... noise is the worst ennemy of nerves, of course , in sunny country like cyprus people are living more outside than in europe to noise is more important but it is necessary as well to respect the others life - there are regulations for that as well and i am sure cypriots do their best to stick to them it is in their interest !!! this noise problem is all over the world not only cyprus - i, myself try to respect my neighbours if i stay in a flat - not wearing high hills and walk during the night, not shout in the street after a certain time of night, make my dog to obey and n ot bark any time of the day or night .... this is education and respect but sometimes when there is exceptional events, of course you can enjoy yourself all night but not every nights because some other people have to go to work early and they deserve to sleep as well -

cyprus is like all the countries some people are tolerant, some are not, some people are careless of other some don't -

Reproman


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 252

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 14:24

After my first visit to North Cyprus 8 years ago (Aug 2000), and having just been back (june 2008) i have seen a vast difference in the landscape in terms of new developments, bars, increased traffic, supermarkets, apartments, people etc. Even with 40years of embargos and economic supression north cyprus has really started to build up.



I can really see both sides of the fence here....those that chose north cyprus as a place to spend the rest of their lives, for the peace and quiet, cheap cost of living and unspoilt surroundings are now being faced with the prospect of it becoming overdeveloped, noisey and full of....people.



And what about those who have waited and sat back and watched the rest of the world boom in economic growth, wages and standard of living eg Spain or South Cyprus, based on the tourist trade? North cyprus had NO CHOICE but to be a 'Quiet, unspoilt' place.



So now they have a chance in the north to increase tourism and boost the economy, with all the ups and downs that comes with it, why would they not jump at the chance like any other country?



For north cyprus to stand on its own feet it needs to embrace all ages, not just people who retire to cyprus or those that want to escape london! Young and old alike, from all different backgrounds and therefore provide for all these poeple.



They key here is balance and regulation. I for one dont want cyprus to turn into Costa brava or Ayi napa, full of drunk chavs, but i also see the need for cyprus to cater for young people, who enjoy the nightlife and ultimaltely are the future of the island and they need to enjoy their homeland to prevent them from leaving.



one point that makes me laugh, 8 years ago people were all, (brits and TC's) moaing at how bad the roads are in TRNC.

8 years later and after vast improvments in roads...they now all moan about the amount of traffic!



cyprus needs more money, money = people, people = noise.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 14:57

BHW,



"...the Turkish way and we should all support that."





The Cypriot or Turkish Cypriot way, surely? Turkish Cypriots are very sensitive to their culture being eroded by Turkish influence. God knows they've lost enough already.

but-n-ben


Joined: 09/06/2008
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 11:04

reading this thread with interest, the things ismail says are quite true - if a little blunt - others make similar true statements, but if these posts were not made in the first place it would be better all round, North Cyprus is a beautiful place and there is room for everyone and for all differing opinions, but in my mind it is like religion I have my ideas on it but I do not foist my religion on others and would ask them not to foist theirs on me thus we can then get on with our lives happily and live together in harmony.

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 12:17

Surely there are plenty of quiet places left to choose where you are going to live. If you choose somewhere close to all the amenities then you are close to noise or potential noise. This goes for anywhere and not just TRNC.

I chose to be 30 minutes drive from Girne so that I have traded peace and quiet for a lengthy trip to what is or will be noisy at some time now or in the future. My choice!

Please don't try to change the local people we complain enough about immigrants expecting everything in the UK to change for them. What is our reply : why should we change!

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 13:24

Tricky one this, on one hand people are saying tourism is down, again, yet on the other hand things put in place to encourage tourists are the very things that many people living here want to avoid.

In the real world not all tourists want to enjoy the beautiful scenery and peaceful surroundings on their hard earned two week break from work, they do want to have a drink, a dance and all the rest of it. And of course the young local people, like anywhere else in the world, want to be able to have a good time, why shouldn,t they, it,s their country after all. Those of us who have bought property here did so probably because the price was right plus many of us have been fortunate enough to have been able to travel to the Costas, Majorca, Italy, Greece etc so we have grown tired of the music bars and such and now just want peace and quiet.

Tourism is crucial to the economy of TRNC and if this is what is needed then so be it, as Breezyboy says there are still plenty of quiet places to live if you don,t want to be in the thick of it, for example I wouldn,t buy a property on the Lagana strip in Zante but the island itself is beautiful.

Lets not become a bunch of Victor Meldrews,we have to live and left live, there's plenty of room for us all on this wonderful island, young, old and young at heart.

Biker



Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 13:37

PtePkie

Your quote:

"The Cypriot or Turkish Cypriot way, surely? Turkish Cypriots are very sensitive to their culture being eroded by Turkish influence. God knows they've lost enough already. "



What do you know about the Turkish way or the culture that is being eroded.

Explain please.



Biker

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 13:46

Hi Biker,



My post says the Turkish Cypriot way, not the Turkish way. I was referring to the gradual loss of TC culture which has been going on since you've been in London and possibly before.

but-n-ben


Joined: 09/06/2008
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 16:01

poor old BHW started this thread to praise the TRNC then castigated in the next breath certain bars, she is almost certain to be a lady with an agenda, does she live near a bar that uses karaoke or football matches to bring in business, lets hear it from her ??

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 16:14

but-n-ben,



You seem to find a conspiracy theory lurking behind others' posts, despite barely having made any contributions yourself. What gives?

Funinthesun


Joined: 17/03/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 16:49

BHW...I think I get where you were coming from. I love this place in it's traditional unspoiled manner. I don't want to recreate Britain here or to see towns like Girne and Famagusta turn into Aiya Napa or Magaluf either.



Yes it has it's issues, but I love it for the most part just the way it is.

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 17:12

But it does need alot of money to be put into the infra structure of the island.The propsed marinas need to be completed.Roads that have been started need to be completed.Beaches need to be tidied on a regular basis.The water situation needs to be addressed.All this will attract investment and will bode good for the future.I have to agree though it is a beautiful place,

Regards,

Paul.

Funinthesun


Joined: 17/03/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 17:42

Dead right Dodger. Well said.

catwoman


Joined: 23/04/2008
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 17:44

i can only agree wth ishmail. my local bar on turquoise bay has football, karaoke, and live music. the bar was full of Turkish people for the fooball, and we all had a great time together. it was a nice mixture of brits and turkish, let people enjoy what they want, i do think that some people have a hidden agender, and if they dont like it why dont they leave.

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 18:35

If I want to eat Fish and Chips, I will.

If I want to drink Watneys Red Barrel (do they still make it?) I will.

If I want to mix mainly with Brit's, I will.

If I want to buy a property in a busy area and then complain about the noise, I will.

If I want to tell the TCs how their country should be run, I will.

If I want to shop in the South, I will.

If I want to think that most of the moaners don't live here, I will.

If I want to think that most of the "I love the TRNC brigade, don't live here, I will.



Don't you just love personal freedom.

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 19:26

My husband and I don't like kareoke bars or loud music and smoky atmospheres. So we bought our property in the country and we don't visit them. Surely the TRNC is big enough to cater for everyone, I just hope that where we live doesn't become the next Lapta Strip but remains as it is quiet and beautiful. OK I have to travel 3 miles for a loaf of bread and water but that is a price I am prepared to pay for the peace and tranquility we have.



The Butlers wife

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 19:36

If your property is near the sea, you will be overrun eventually. Unless it's really horrible there!

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 20:00

oh , thats not nice

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 20:14

Good insightful post as usual Simbas. It may not be nice, but it is probably the truth.

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 20:24

Hilltop are you on a certain site over at Bogaz as your name suggests??

If you are it is not as horrible as that but if it ever gets that horrible, we have options to move, like everyone else. It wouldn't do for everyone to like the same things in life, we all make our own choices and what some people think are heaven other people think are hell and to us living at Hilltop would be hell.



The Butlers wife

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 20:31

Excellent post, well thought out and without a hint of malice. Well done!

Kitty1


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 683

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 22:01

I am a member of "The I Love TRNC Brigade" and I both live and work (legitmately!) there. I guess we all see our adopted country in different ways because we value different things in life.



Yes, one would hope that the country is big enough for all of us...as long as we all try to get along, eh!

Scarecrow


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 35

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 16:22

Well said Hilltop, thankfully we all come from a democratic country n hopefully we wud like northern cyprus the be the same so i shall do as i like n will not tell others what to do. Lets just hope that the small minority of people who only complain will refrain from doing so as Ishmail was quite correct, they are only doing damag to Northern Cyprus by the comments they are making. Lets all just live together n lets each have opinions but no need to air them on forums when they are degrogative to businesses. Who are only trying the make an honest living and pay their taxes which all benefit the country.

Notsoboredhw


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 1254

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 19:51

I have only just caught up on this one and I certainly didnt mean for anyone to attack me the way they have. Yes I had had a few sherberts that night and yes I guess I was fed up with some owners on our site constantly moaning. It was more a dig at what people expect a foreign country to have to suit their needs rather than adjust to the way of life in that particular country. It was no way targeted at anyone or any bar in particular. So I am sorry if I have upset anyone with my comments I certainly didnt mean for all of this and some particularly rude comments. I apologise.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 20:38

Bored housewife,



We all love The TRNC.......but!.........................



Still hell of a ( delacotage)!



OK Philray.....I'm going to get a telling off! At least it was said in good faith, and in the spirit

of good fun!....



wyn

Notsoboredhw


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 1254

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 20:49

Sorry Wyn not sure what delacotage means - even Thesaurus didnt know!!!

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 231

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 21:08

BHW



Decolletage is a low cut neckline showing off the neck and shoulders and to some extent your chest!



LL

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 21:12

I know what I meant, but.............if I said it I would be banned, and called a dirty old man1



wyn



Seems that I am indebted to lovelife!

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 21:18

Chris,



DONT YOU DARE post on this thread...........cause we have a name for them in builders huts,



and I was trying to be polite!





wyn

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 231

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 22:38

My pleasure Wyn or should that be yours? (LOL)



LL