urgent info needed about tap water pls

tommy13


Joined: 29/04/2009
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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 14:59

does anyone have a lab report or knowledge about the local tap water quality please ,

i may have to invest in a reverse osmosis system im told , im running out of time if anyone has already done or recieved lab test results , it would really help , also if anyone has used a similar system and has any good references pls let me know

minertor



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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:06

The only thing we use tap water for is washing. Costs about 1tl per day for the 19lt bottles.



Tony

tommy13


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:07

no mine is for a business , i need to purchase the system .....

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:13

My trust in tab water in TRNC is low (where was the source?, possible contamination on the way to my tab, in several places lead pipes are still used etc). In restaurants and bars I only accept water from a closed bottle, which should be opened at my table.

Back to your question: I wonder if a general report about tab water in TRNC can be made. Circumstances are different on both sides of the mountains and different in the Mesoaria plain, the cities and villages.

So I second what Minertor wrote in post # 2.

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:14

Tommy.give me a call. my friend is the world wide agent for a company who sell what your looking for to the navy.to the british forces.and of course many other customers,they have turnkey systems to suit all clients of any size

There systems are in use in afganistan,iraq,on most naval ships and the like,used by the british forces abroad.



sea water brackish water to W.H.O.standard drinking water

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:16

The quality of tap water depends on its source, treatment and distribution. Any sample taken and analysed could pass one day and fail a week later depending on conditions.

A RO system is one way of making clean, healthy water but the cost will depend on the output, i.e. how many tonnes per 24 hours. If your need is commercial you may require quite a large installation.

I have been involved in a couple of these installations and if you ring me on 0533 845 8494, I'll tell you what I know.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:26

thx zero , its not seawater to drinking i need , its magusa tap water cleaned up i need , its for use for the dishwasher , ice machine and the coca cola bag in box system

flightholiday


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:27

Vaughan's answer is in the right direction - the most improtant answers come from the reason & why you need it and the source (different parts of the same village may have different springs or wells in use).



What volumes of water are you expecting to use?



We can offer domestic units from Culligan, Liff, Aquadial and other manufacturers as well as units large enough for commercial dairies.



Is your main concern bacteria, nitrates, sodim, heavy metals etc? It might be that you only need some filtration and UV rather than Reverse Osmosis which tends to be expensive and also can depend on your incoming pressure being high.



Tom

IAH Ltd

http://www.softcleanwater.co.uk (We have some new products due on line in the next 72 hours including new RO units.) email me from the site with a telephone number and I will call you.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:28

Cleaned up Famagusta tab water for the ice machine..?! No thank you, I'll have my Coca-Cola hot, thank you very much...

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:30

no matter what its for.they have a system to suit all needs,large or small. from 1000 litres per hour to more than 1 million litres per day .

You wont buy less and better quality anywhere.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:37

are you saying its not possible to purify famagusta municipality water dutch to an acceptable level of quality ? if thats the case , the other option is to have an independent tank that i fill with purchased bottled water, this is what im trying to find out here , which route to take

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:47

RE msg 11, tommy13: (...) are you saying its not possible to purify famagusta municipality water dutch to an acceptable level of quality ? (...)

=> Not to a level that I would trust, but that of course is a very personal opinion. And I do not trust bottled water from TRNC either. Do you remember that two or three years ago the TRNC government had to close down some TRNC companies because they sold contaminated water from the Mesoaria? I do. How many bottles were sold and circulated? We never read a decent answer. That's why I only want Evsu water from Turkey.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:52

understood dutch

flightholiday


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:53

Any water can be purified - I understand Culligan even supply well purification units for the US army in Afghanistan. In North Cyprus that type of unit might not be needed!

You would do best to get a report locally but that like an MOT is only valid on the day it was tested.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:54

OK, Tom, some like it purified, others like it pure...

tommy13


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 15:55

flightholiday , i notice your companies in uk ,, i need an immediate decision , i have 3 weeks or so to solve this and dont have much time ,,, i need a local solution

mollycorbin


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 17:14

hmmm...a proprietor who seems to be conscientious and concerned about hygiene....killing herpes viruses and what not off the glasses and forks..me likey...the name of the establishment and location please, thank you very much.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 17:30

thnx for noticing miss molly ... we are abiding to strict international standards , since its an international franchise ,

its http://www.johnnyrockets.com , facebook page is http://www.facebook.com/pages/Johnny-Rockets-North-Cyprus-Team/316367483299?ref=ts



100 salamis road , famagusta ..... grand opening to be announced , coming soon

henrik



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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 17:39

BTW Hans, water from reverse osmosis systems are hygenical clean and can be used even in hospitals. just a side info..

flightholiday


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 18:23

Tommy - for any quality solution that can be used for volumes the kit will 90% sure need to be imported.

If you bought from us you could arrange either through our freight forwarders (for flights) in Stansted or with Jo Valentine to have the goods sent as a part consignement by road & sea.



In many instances they could be shipped within 4/5 working days.



Email me your phone number and we can talk.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 18:36

ok emailed you

minertor



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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 18:48

BTW Hans, water from reverse osmosis systems are hygenical clean and can be used even in hospitals. just a side info..



Hi Henrik, I understand osmosis, but what is reverse osmosis?



Tony

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 18:51

What is wrong with you weak poms? On arrival back into the TRNC, down 2 pints of tap water, might get the shits for the first couple of days but then your immune system kicks in and then everything is hunky dory thereafter!



Richard

keithcaley



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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 22:50

Tony,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_osmosis

henrik



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Message Posted:
19/04/2010 23:16

thanks tony.. is it so hard to google a term, or double term?

keithcaley



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Message Posted:
20/04/2010 07:48

Oops!

Sorry about the double post.

I wasn't trying to 'rub it in' or anything, I just refreshed the page...Honest!

stellasstar1



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Posts: 1519

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 12:55

I agree with Richard, tap water has always been ok for me.

musy313


Joined: 20/12/2009
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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 17:58

Evsu is not coming from Turkey. Factory is in near Alaykoy. In north Cyprus we have 58 brands of bottled water but big factories just only 7. they are ICY, EVSU,GÜRPINAR,AQUA FRESH, TRODOS, MEYSU and CEMER SU. The biggest one in market is EVSU but most quality one is ICY because they just produce water in 1700 sq meter factory with 65 worker and they have a own laboratory aswell. I used that since 2001 and when I went to their new factory 2 years ago I saw their producing period from road because factory is have a glass front.their phone number is 0392 444 444 1. They speak English. Don't use tap water in north Cyprus for drinking and Don't drink the water after RO. because RO is take all of the mineral. its not good for health

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 18:25

Thanks for all that very good advice, 'musy313' - it's always best to know the real facts!



Also, one reason not to use [home] RO units is because about 3 or even 4 parts of water used goes to waste after cleaning the filtres, which get contaminated sooner in TRNC due to the [bad] quality of the water being passed through them.



What this means is that you get about 1 litre of drinking water [less all beneficial minerals] to every 4 litres of water that passes through your water meter - costly, eh, especially when you add the cost of electricity to permanently run the RO unit and [more] frequent need to buy new filtres!

Dusterbruce


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 18:43

My mother used tap water for 18 years for drinking, cooking, washing, etc etc and never came to any harm!

ataturk


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Posts: 712

Message Posted:
25/06/2010 00:33

As i understand Gurpinar is just tap water that is run through a reverse osmosis machine anyway and Cemer Su has got to be something similar as it tastes awful. With regards to the rest of them the water all comes from the same place that tap water comes from and it is filtered. We live in bellapais and I have started drinking the water I for one think its all a big scam. All the mainland workers drink the water and laugh at us, their alright.

musy313


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Posts: 8

Message Posted:
25/06/2010 13:28

Tenakoutou I have not enough English for explain you everything for water. But don't trust all of the companies. You are true about the RO (home).



Dusterbruce, tap water is don't do anything in a short time but when you use it everything its start after 50 y.o. maybe its not have a bacteria but its have lots of salt and lime.



And another information, RO system is just clean salt, mineral and lime not bacteria.

flightholiday


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 15:16

We have suggested before to make tap water more palatable at a reasonable price UV & filtration is sufficient (this is what is recommended by British water authorities to clients when using water from bore holes or streams) see the FP20N on http://www.softcleanwater.co.uk for technical details see http://softcleanwater.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=8

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
25/06/2010 22:22

How long does water in 19ltre bottles last time wise? I've left a couple of full unopened Evsu ones in my apartment which are now months old. When I return should I simply pour away and replace?

flightholiday


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 22:55

If sealed I would not have thought so.

keithcaley



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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 23:37

Tom,

I beg to differ!

The water in the 19 Ltr bottles is not sterile, and if stored anywhere in bright light, will tend to start turning green - I've seen it happen, within weeks, rather than months. While (green) algae probably won't hurt you too much, the other trace bugs in the water might well do so, if stored in sunny places in hot weather, and allowed to multiply - Urgh!

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
26/06/2010

we left a half full 19l bottle on our dispenser for about 6 months while back in old blighty. Was fine. Admittedly keithcaley it wasn't in the sun. All our villa is nice and shady inside

flightholiday


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Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 00:03

Keith thanks I have no experience with these bottles - I assumed that the water would be stored in a "cool" dark place but if not sterile it is wise to play safe. Martin - Keiths advice seems sound but if you do need to throw it use it wisely on the garden.