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cozworth07


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I plan on moving over here in 6 months time and am wondering which estate agents are the preferred choice. I have a few friends out here already and some have been recommended like Fraser and Co, North Cyprus International and Donaghy Beyler.



Myself and many others in the near future I'm sure want to find out is which estate agents are not pushy, provide excellent information and good after sales contact.



I would like to buy off plan but I do not want to see happen as newspapers have printed that many developments are not getting finished. I want to know and have piece of mind that the estate agent is dealing with only the best developers who will complete projects on time and to a very good standard.



Well after reading this I hope you can enlighten me and others on who are the best estate agents to go with and that deliver excellent customer service. Cheers.



flossie


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We used Ian Smith's for our first purchase and they were excellent. Helped us through the process and pointed us in the direction of a good builder. We bought off plan and everything was completed on time. Ian Smith also helped us with electric and water connection.



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Aslan


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I have only heard good things about Boray Developments and Estate Agency, not just from expats but locals to.



Aslan


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Just looked at your profile, how is Cheltenham these days?



rcroton


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I would reccomend Ian Smith for sure, lady called Margot excellent. Another bit of advice dont buy off plan!!!



Hazel


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Ian Smith's definitely the best, excellent reputation on the island, been around for 24 years, knowledgeable and helpful staff, can't recommend them highly enough, our house purchase was almost! completely stress free I'm happy to say.

Hazel



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Eden Estates for Lapta/Alsancak/Karsiyaka

They won't sell anything they wouldn't buy themselves.



Gilly



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Hi Cozworth



Just to let you know that we, at Donaghy and Beyler Estate Agents hold regular Surgeries offering Free and confidential advice for Purchasers and Vendors alike. We hold a House Doctors Information Clinic every Saturday at our Catalkoy Office between 9am and 12pm but appointments can be arranged at other times, convenient to yourself.



If you are agreeable, I would be delighted to contact you via your email address noted in Forum 44 or, alternatively, do please contact us on:



D&B Head Office (Opposite Astro in Girne) : 00 90 392 815 8882

Catalkoy Office (next door to Chemist) : 00 90 392 824 5567

Mobile: 00 90 533 848 8953

email: gilly@donaghyandbeyler.com



It can be daunting moving to another country but we will help to alleviate any worries you may have by answering your questions in an honest and unbiased way.



Look forward to hearing from you.



Gilly Griffiths

Office Manager

Catalkoy Office

Donaghy and Beyler Property Agents & Lettings North Cyprus



Kitty1


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Absolutely Ian Smith every time. Excellent service. I have sung their praises several times on this forum.



I have only positive things to say about them.



Nglbarnes



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Ian Smith it is again - and even though we purchased last year we still pop in and see them and they will always give great free advice on anything you need to know whether property related or not! can't beat that



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korina estates a girl called lydia she married a local speaks turkish and english is very helpfull



wynyardman



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Ho cosworth07,



On this one I think I will take a rain check!



We bought through Unwins!



Caveat Emptor!.........



Do not buy offplan, until this Government, agree to ammend the Specific Perfprmance Law of 1885. At least then, you will have a chance of getting your deeds ( Kocan)



wyn (broken but unbowed)



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I agree with wynyardman. Please do not buy off plan until this law has been changed. At present there is no law protecting you to enable you to sue your vendor to compel them to transfer the title deeds to you. Uncrupulous developers are taking your money and failing to hand over the deeds. If you are going to buy, I would strongly recommend you buy a resale with the deeds ready and available for transfer, which has water and electric connected and all snagging completed. Please have a look at the homebuyers pressure group website: http://www.hbpg-trnc.net/ for very very useful info.



Sibel



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Sibel,



Who loves you baby! Keep up the VERY VERY GOOD WORK!



wyn



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cozworth07



Under no circumstances should you purchase off plan, if you do you might as well chuck your money down the drain.



There is no need to purchase off plan there are hundreds of resales on the market



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Cosworth07

We are moving to TRNC April 09 and are using Fraser & Co. We have found them to be very helpful, especially Sharon who has been in contact with us on several occasions, both by email and telephone. She is fantastic and very helpful. If she does not know the answers, she looks into your questions and gets back to you ASAP. Best of luck



Turtle


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Its not the estate agents to be wary of its the soddin builders.

Take the advice already given and do not buy off plan.........trust me!



cozworth07


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Thank you to everybody so far for their feedback very helpful indeed I see Ian Smith is definately the best choice. Also been looking at other estate agents sites seeing what property is available and there are some nice ones listed on Henry Charles and North Cyprus International. What are peoples thoughts about these 2 companies? cheers



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Little Villa Company are nice guys, Richard & Paul .



McSteviet



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Is that Henry Charles or Mr Charles??



MC



cozworth07


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henry charles i believe. is mr charles any good then if thats another estate agent?



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We used



"korina estates a girl called lydia she married a local speaks turkish and english is very helpfull "



3.5 years on



No mains electric despite handing over cash.



No mains water despite handing over cash



BLURB nad estate agent said villa in Karsiyaka it's in Lapta !!



Mortgage on the land.



No permission to build.



Not built to spec.



Supposed to have 2 communal pools not got any.



Patio colapsing



Need I say any more the saga goes on and on and on.



Revenge is a dish best served cold



not2sure


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Mr Charles was the founder and former partner of Henry Charles



Henry Charles still trade under his name

Mr charles office is in Alsancak Tel number 0392 821 8122



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Definately Ian Smith's. Would totally agree - do not buy off plan.



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Can any Kavanlar phase 1 buyers advise if they ever had any problem getting the title deeds transferred after they made full payment?

If there have not been any problems then maybe we should be reccomending buying on a Kavanlar development.



Aga Buyers A G


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Defo Ian Smiths........



The only Estate Agent in the TRNC listed with the Association of Estate Agents In the UK



Ian02


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Lots of advice saying don't buy off plan.Any thoughts on the pros and cons of buying a plot and having a villa built by a local builder?



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only buy pre 74 turkish or foreign owned title. do not buy exchange land. the greek cypriots did not exchange their land for anything.check with the lawyer that it is what they say it is. put a clause into the contract stating the fact.friends of our purchased what they were told was turkish title, only to find out it was exchange land 2 years later. you can check the title before purchase at the lands office in south cyprus.



stanley


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Seem to be alot of Smith fans out there, Donaghy and Beyler are good, down to earth and social, bought through them and had a few drinks doing it a fine way to do business, buy a resale no heartache and you know what you are going to end up with.



jay76


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hi all im currently going through the process of buying a villa,contracts are being drawn up,it is a resale with exchange deeds,can anyone tell me if this is safe. thanks jay



KStephenson


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I am in the same position and would be interested in other peoples views. I think I know the answer from my own research.



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PP



And the situation in the ROC with land taken from N Cypriots?



Any balanced view available from all your 'impartial journalistic' experience?



Laptalocal


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I agree with Littlenige. Stay away from her. I'm in a similar situation. She told me a complete load of rubbish. It was either just to get a sale, or she had no idea what she was on about. Either way, give it a miss!



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Jay76 & KStephenson

We went to Landmark Estates and they couldn't have been more helpful. Sandra & Sharron are lovely and friendly. We used Naomi Mehmet as advocate and so far so good, everything seems to be going smoothly. I agree about not buying off plan - we have bought a resale - much less complicated and I'm looking forward to spending some time there in Sept/Oct. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!



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We used North Cyprus International. Very nice and helpfull - especially Tim in TRNC. Not pushy and took a lot of time and trouble to find out exactly what we wanted. Have brought through them. Used Naomie Mehmet - not problems so far.



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i bought through continental estates who then changed their name in trnc to turtle bay properties. they are based mainly in san pedro, marbella. they were o.k but exagerated a lot as i `ve now found out and like a lot of agents worldwide would say just about anything to get their 15% sales commision from the developer, in my case kensington developement group. they in turn said the agent would "sell their grandmother" to get a sale!! on another note i have heard glowing reports about donaghey beyler.



Bertie


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we bought land in 2006 and the builder has been excellent, architect pretty rubbish but they have a different brief from at home. We have invested quite a lot of money and don't have the permission's or kocan yet so that's a pretty big worry. We treated and trusted our solicitor as you would in the UK -big mistake,we handed over the money for the land on the assumption that the solicitor would get the kocan from the vendor!!! were we stupid. ( only worked out last week through this site that my solicitor wont tell us when we get our permissions we need to go the place to find out) Would we do it again -when I'm out there and looking at the house yes, when I'm here and thinking/worrying about all the issues probably not. If you do buy land ask to see the plot on the kocan it will give you some idea if what they tell you is what you are buying we were totally misled on that score and we did have a local with us so thats no guarantee either. The kocan will also help you to see if there is access/a road to the site.



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I used Cyprus Royal Estates and wouldn't recommend any estate agent. Remember they are basically sales people who survive on sales pure and simple.

The end result you want is whether you end up with a property you want, in your name, connected to water & electric, meters in your name, has a road, no one elses mortgage on it and built to your satisfaction.

I sigh whenever I read ' I used, they are really nice etc etc and....no problems so far.' So far being the operative words.

Oh and no way would I buy off plan.

Martin



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yes like larnica airport eric



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I do wonder why so many people put such emphasis on the estate agent?

As someone has already said thier main concern is getting a sale, as thats how they get their wages. In that respect they are more likely to tell you what you want to hear to clench the sales deal.



They represent the builder much more than the buyer because at the end of the day the builders the one that pays their wages.



People would be better advised to spend more time on who the builder is and which advocate to use.



Be wary of estate agents and lawyers that use the builders "ready made" contracts. Never use the lawyer recommended by the estate agent.



laptagal


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rtddci - I can only speak as I find. When I said "so far" it is because we have not completed yet - our decision, due to timing. Our agent negotiated an extended payment period for us and the developer has been really fair. However, as with all things, I will only be able to say for sure that all went well once everything - including the connections and Kocan have been sorted out and we are sitting on our patio, sipping something cool and soothing.



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When we was looking to buy 2 years ago it was buy of plan (still waiting) but now people go on about resale just bear a thought for people who have brought off plan and having a night mare at this moment because that was the advice at the time when a lot of building going on .



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Henry Charles Estate Agents employs a person called Narcin who is (was)married to the builder that we bought from. All has not gone well, and her Mother has remortgaged the property i have paid her for, so maybe give Narcin a wide berth if she still works there.



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Do not buy off plan , they will show you a brochure then when finished they tell you it was for ilustration purposes DUH .UFFFFFFFFF

Estate agents are brilliant re resales , the plus point you have is that what you see is what you get . Hope this helps .



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what is the main problem with buying off plan apart from takes a long time and the distance apart.



Pipie


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when purchasing off plan there is a posibility of the following .

delay in finishing villa/apartment do not know any one who has compensation if property is delivered late .

Constant E-mails to and fro simply drains you over the years it takes .

the cost in flights re to check progress do not rely on photos

water/electric costs previoulsy agreed will almost quadruple at the end of the build .

If you are not satisfied with the finish , builders get around this by saying the brochure was for ilustration only .

You could end up with finished villa/apartment with the site still looking like Beriut .

LAWS/REGULATIONS change almost daily as when you enter the agreement at time of contract all will certainly be changed when property is finished .

And finally if you are buying on an apartment complex you could be asked for maintenence even though complex is nowhere finished .



Now i could go on but if i had my time over again i would buy a resale you know exactly what you are paying for . Hope this helps .



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beach resort

what pipie says more or less is almost definate to happen with off plan.

I bought off plan and even though builder was one of the better ones and I was happy with them, I still had at least 50% of what is mentioned to do.

Biggest problem is with info from lawyer or more the case, non info.Chasing PtP etc.

Another problem you wont have with resale is the increases in taxes and lawyers bills over the period of build.Take vat alone ,due to change in how valued will be 20-30% higher than we were told initially.I have lost track of how many other goalposts have been moved,such as paying lawyer to register contract.

While my own experience ,frustrating as it was ,wasnt to bad compared to most,DONT take the gamble.Unlike when we bought ,there is now absolutely no need to buy off plan.I would put it more strongly and say ,with what you know now you would be insane.

A big thing is the contract with offplan which is not legally enforsable compared to sales agreement with resale.

With resale you can choose only those with title deed.



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cheers pipie if you buy a resale do you pay all the same tax as off plan does it work out the same without the grief.



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As it stands today ( it could change tomorrow ) you pay tax on whatever the original purchase price , but you could be lucky and the seller may pay it for you , you could negociate this when haggling with an offer . Hope this helps , also can i add choose youre solicitor/advocate carefully as most of them are RUBBISH . also when you do find a decent solicitor/advocate pay them in stages , do not pay them up front . Hope this helps



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Is no-one re commending Unwins?



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Why use estate agents to give them 5 percent for a bit of advertising Timothy Cadman sold his house by mentioning it on these forums maybe we sould have a for sale and wanted forum dedicated to property as we all no estate agents dont always disclose the full facts and usually have a knack of steering new customers in the direction of lawyers they are in bed with



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Brilliant idea dunns!!!!!



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Hi, I picked Ian Smith 4 years ago after reading about the estate agents on the internet. Then went to a big sales do in London, and Ian Smith had about the smallest stand, and yet people were queing(?) up to speak with them. The others were quite empty compated to them. Came out and bought through them, and had brilliant service. The builders of the apartment we bought have also been very good, and the solicitor they recommended has been brilliant, always available to give advice and help. (no charge). I would certainly go with anyone Ian Smith recommends.



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positive post message 57 , could i ask who is the solicitor please ?



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Finding a plot and using builder is I feel better than off plan. There still could be problems with connections to services etc. You will need to be sure of the builder though, we did a conversion and we used Ali Yemenci next to Ian Smith estate agents who was recommended to us. He was excellent. If you go down this route check your builders previous work and what they are like to deal with.

Getting the right plot may be a problem as some of the builders and land agents tend to take you to plots that either they own or someone in the family or are connected with owns.

Col



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I would reccomend Donaghy and Beyler Estate Agents



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watcha !!! we have just bought from London Cyprus Homes and used a local lad called Kaz ! his company is North Coast Estates in Kyrenia ! apart from the usual kissing of boots we found him very helpful, curtious and was available most times to assist ! he even accompanied us on an evening viewing to see what the place was like at night ! we think he is a genuine nice man ! depending on what sort of budget you have and the property style you could contact London Cyprus homes direct as they have properties from apartments to the loveliest villas under construction ! ! we were totally satisfied with the build quality and service from all concerned ! they also only build on pre 74 turkish title land and the MD is from Epping so not much of a language barrier !!!!!!!!!!



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We would recommend Donaghy & Beyler too. They were excellent and very helpful.



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I am another one happy with Ian Smith, they helped us with sorting out Kibtec.

The builder was Ozyalcin and we bought off plan and the villa was completed 1 month ahead of the contracted 12 months. There was very little snagging which was all done before we received the keys.

AJ



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Can recomend Mark at Donaghy&Beyler he is excellent.



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Personally wouldn't recommend any NC estate agent. Come to that wouldn't recommend buying in NC full stop.



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There all aware of the property problems here, what have they done to try and protect the buyers - jack sh*t!



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We went into Unwin's on arrival here in may,just out of curiosity to see how property prices had risen since our previous visit 3 years before. We were taken to see 3 properties and really liked the last one but were not ready to buy. Mustafa practically tied us to our seats wanting us to sign on the dotted line like NOW. he bombarded us with phone calls over the next week to buy the house as "she'd accept £90K fully furnished, a reduction of about £15K". Even now we get emails from him offering to get us out here from Uk to view! We gave him very short shrift back then but seems he has very thick skin!!!!

Don't trust estate agents, they have no training and are not accountable. It is not a profession, just a job BUT do feel Ian Smith is about the best. They all get impatient when you don't buy anything though. You're expected to buy after only 3 or 4 viewings. Christ, I take longer than that to buy knickers.



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we bought from donaghy and beyler,great company to deal with,nothing too much trouble.Having a house built by sydney construction whos quality is fantastic,would highly recommend both companies.



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we are in the process of building 3 villas 2 of which are for sale. No mortgage on land, and near completed.They are in the ÇiÇek Mahallesi near Karaoglanoğlu.Work has been done to a very high standard, and has been project managed by our selves through out..İf interested please e mail on rasieab@hotmail.com or phone 0533 851 4555.İ will be happy to answer any questions you may have.



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bought resale 2 1/2 years ago from h & b in girne they could not have been more helpful and still help if we need anything like home insurance or plumbers.bob or hussein are there to help you with your enquiries.



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Could reaffirm message 65 Donaghy & Beyler are brillant friendly and

offer sound advise, also Sydney Construction are rated as one of the best

builders on the island, they built our apartment in Ozankoy and also our

friends large 5 bedded villa in Chatalkoy. Excellent on all counts.



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We have recently purchased a pre 74 Turkish Title house in Ozankoy. Before leaving the Uk we had registered with quite a few local estate agents. Most just kept e.mailing properties, a lot of which did not meet our criterea and with very little communication. The one Estate agent which stood out was Landmark. There was no pressure selling and Sandra gave us plenty of information with regard to purchasing a house in Northern Cyprus. Both the previous owner and Sandra went out of their way to obtain documents which confirmed that the house was definitely pre 74 Turkish Title. Sharron and Aksana who also work for Landmark were very friendly and helpful and we would certainly recommend Landmark to anyone thinking of purchasing a home in the area.



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Def Donarghy and Beyler,Catalkoy. Say hi to Lindsay for me!



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re msg 1



I can understand the attraction of Cyprus as the wonderful summer weather departed glos'shire today :(



If you are wise - you should visit the "TRNC" and RENT first.... SO many horror stories re offplan developments all over CY..



Pre owned with DEEDs is the best bet



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Completely agree,Littlenige..Re Korinia/Lydia.



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In my opinion KOFALI CONSTRACTION is the best,BECAUSE "THEY BUY THE LAND AND THEN BUILD ON IT"unlike most of other "cowboys".We bought from them,had the usual damp here and there,but when the day came to get our DEEDS,spot on.thank you KOFALI,thank you ALI,thank you OMER



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Estate agents, Developers, Builders, Advocates, 'you're my friend, I help you and give you good price' Turk, all have one thing in common. You can see the black spots on them where people have been pushing them away with barge poles!



Richard



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re msg73:

Brinsley

Wouldnt like to make any bad comments regarding the estate agents and Advocates in uk,but the developers and builders are no different than the ones in cyprus

All are nothing but "con artists"

as for "'you're my friend" thats all over the world,they all say that to get your custom(pretend friendship)

THE BARGE POLES

We, us "TURKS" use them to push the ones with no RESPECT away

the black spots are only in our (turks)hands from having to hold the BARGE POLE for sooooooooo long for our protection













but above all "my friend" if things are that bad in cyprus(for you),may I ask "why are you still here?"



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yorgozlu



Looking forward to meeting you and your cheque book. It's a lovely 3 bedroom, 3 balcony flat and I'm sure you'll be very happy and I'll be very happy with the price you will pay me!



Richard



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Brinsley



Would do anything and everything within my capability to help anyone with no expectation,I'm not a bad person after all,(well try not to be)I dont think for one second that"you are a bad person,just someone that had bad expiriences on the island(perhaps)



If I can be any assistance to you for whatever you may need doing,please get in touch with me via e-mail

specialy if your issues are official



I just dont understand anyone moaning and whinging about the island and carry on living here



So, please get in touch if I can be any help (and thats for all forum members)



sorry for going out of the topic



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Hi....for anyone intending to buy...contact: Halil@northcypruspropertyconsultants.com



He will advise as to which developers are having "financial" problems, therefore avoid....even if you do not buy through him.



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By far North Coast Estates in my experience were the best. Not pushy, know there stuff.



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Anyone had any dealings with Remax? No mention so far.



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I say 'DO NOT BUY IN TRNC UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT SORT THE CORRUPT SYSTEM AND LOCK UP THE SWINDLING ROBBING BUILLDERS WHO RE-MORTGAGE LAND AND PROPERTY ALREADY BOUGHT AND PAID FOR WITH LIFE SAVINGS'



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If you are stupid enough to deal with spivs why is it the governments fault?

As in the UK the government can't be held responsible every time an individual buys a property and falls foul of crooks.

The funny thing about Brits is that if the government interferes it's a nanny state and if situations arise where problems occur they are incompetent and corrupt!

You are like a bunch of unruly schoolkids.

Maybe there is a link here as to why kids are becoming unruly in schools!



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For someone who has decided it's better to keep the money in the bank & wait & rent let me tell me about my little episode with Dynasty Cyprus Estates yesterday, the only time I had heard of them is that they have a villa for sale in Doğanköy & the sign has been up outside said villa for the last 6 months! We saw a sign out-side a flat to rent in the area so I phoned yesterday morning, the moodiest, most abrupt, un-helpful person spoke to me trying to gauge whether I definately wanted to rent it before I had even seen it, an email was sent of the flat before it was even furnished the photos so small I could get no idea so I said I had to see it first. The appointment was at 4pm we got there at 4pm on the dot to see a 4 wheel drive looking like it was about to drive off, she then styled it out by pretending she was parking when I said 'are you from the agency'? She said hello when I did, didn't introduce herself, smile, shake hands nothing, no paper work, the house was opened in si



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contd in silence she then stood in a corner of the kitchen not saying a word, the bedroom had two twin beds & was advertised as double, there were dead cockroaches al over the hall and bathroom, needless to say I had a shock & couldn't inspect them & my fiance led me away, I said 'right thanks!' sience....I said bye as we were leaving & she finally said bye as she was locking up, also I felt bad having a sun dress on wth my bikini underneath as we had been by the pool but she looked like she was dressed for a day out at the beach, if this is what is expected of a property rental agent I think I will sign up now, never have I met anyone supposed to be in sales to make such small effort, no charisma & dressed so un professionally, sure the agent shouldn't effect the sale and we should have been looking at the house, however if she was a clever agent she could have gone in earlier put the beds together and swept up the cockroaches lucky for us I suppose she didn't as I couldnt live there!



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Unwin estate agents in what I have dealt with them have always been efficient, friendly, helpful, smartly dressed, give you paper work with the property information & dimensions, good quality photographs to look over after you have left the property, sure you don't need a 'guide' when you are looking around but they state the positive features of the properties and pick you up from home & take you to see the property in their vehicle if you wish, or like me don't drive. Also Ian Smith Estates do the same, I was shown around a few places with 'Jez' who is very friendly & also was the first agent to sit me down & explain all the costs & procedures of buying a property over here. At the end of the day as previously said you have to do your own research, sure agents work in sales & the more money you have or they can make out of you the nicer they will probably be...but at the end of the day they are providing a service you are the customer it is basic that they should at least polite.



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Cosworth



You have had so many answers but think of this.



If you were buying a house in the UK would you restrict your potential choice of house to only one estate agent or would you see what many had to offer?

Try them all and when you find the house you want negotiate with your eyes and mind functioning, do not as the saying goes, leave your brain on the plane.



Good Luck

Codger



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I would reccomend Select estates



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www.lcmservices@live.co.uk



The TRNC first Independant Contract Managemet Sysem 100% British



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www.lcmservices@live.co.uk



The TRNC first Independant Contract Managemet Sysem 100% British



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North Coast Estates, near the Bellapais traffic lights. Great selection of properties, honest, excellent service all round.



0392 8160207 as for Kaz or Okan.



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